2025 CFL (Non-Bombers) Season

[bustamente]

6 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I could 100% see Osh going home and taking both Zach and Brady with him... Tho Zach is under contract so it'd have to be some kinda trade.

I can see O’Shea going back home, can also see ZC wanting to back out east, but Brady I don’t see it

[wbbfan]

9 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I could 100% see Osh going home and taking both Zach and Brady with him... Tho Zach is under contract so it'd have to be some kinda trade.

Or he takes JY and dinwiddie goes after brady to reunite with brown in ott. 

[Booch]

4 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Or he takes JY and dinwiddie goes after brady to reunite with brown in ott. 

If he tries that....I'd promote JY immediately and give him full control of the defence...and it would be glorious

[wbbfan]

1 minute ago, Booch said:

If he tries that....I'd promote JY immediately and give him full control of the defence...and it would be glorious

Yeah, JY and Costello are the only guys I really don't wanna lose. 

[bustamente]

To tell you the truth I wouldn’t mind a new OC and DC next year, Hogan gone is a no brainer but I didn’t like the schemes Younger was running

[Booch]

7 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Yeah, JY and Costello are the only guys I really don't wanna lose. 

tho not sold originally...Miller too....up and comer....Patterson is solid and with what he had to work with did a stellar job...old schoolish lineage and smart and connected....

6 minutes ago, bustamente said:

To tell you the truth I wouldn’t mind a new OC and DC next year, Hogan gone is a no brainer but I didn’t like the schemes Younger was running

was OC guy even here??...lol

Younger got casterated by roster....He deserves next yr with a real team to play under him

Edited 2 hours ago by Booch

[bustamente]

2 minutes ago, Booch said:

tho not sold originally...Miller too....up and comer....Patterson is sold and with what he had to work with did a stellar job...old schoolish lineage and smart and connected....

was OC guy even here??...lol

Younger got casterated by roster....He deserves next yr with a real team to play under him

Maybe but this rush 3 delay blitz try and cover isn’t going to work, maybe we do need more talent but they are going to have to shed a lot of deadwood off that D

[Booch]

Just now, bustamente said:

Maybe but this rush 3 delay blitz try and cover isn’t going to work, maybe we do need more talent but they are going to have to shed a lot of deadwood off that D

does need tweaking...and influx of talent

But 3 man rush with some dirty dawgs is effective...especially with a Jack who is on search and destroy

And DB's who dont get lost on a crowd of 9th graders

[bustamente]

1 minute ago, Booch said:

does need tweaking...and influx of talent

But 3 man rush with some dirty dawgs is effective...especially with a Jack who is on search and destroy

And DB's who dont get lost on a crowd of 9th graders

It all starts with the line we need to get substantially better. 

[Noeller]

22 minutes ago, bustamente said:

I can see O’Shea going back home, can also see ZC wanting to back out east, but Brady I don’t see it

I have this feeling that he and his agents see him as a major star pro athlete and would like to see him in a bigger spotlight... A major market. They want to try and market him like Connor McDavid, Austin Mathews, Kawhi Leonard, etc....

[bigg jay]

54 minutes ago, ShyGuy said:

If Toronto is looking for a replacement I know a real up-and-coming offensive co-ordinator that might fit. 

And I know a whole lot of people who will help him pack!

[Booch]

5 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I have this feeling that he and his agents see him as a major star pro athlete and would like to see him in a bigger spotlight... A major market. They want to try and market him like Connor McDavid, Austin Mathews, Kawhi Leonard, etc....

going to T.O would make him invisible

[rebusrankin]

7 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I have this feeling that he and his agents see him as a major star pro athlete and would like to see him in a bigger spotlight... A major market. They want to try and market him like Connor McDavid, Austin Mathews, Kawhi Leonard, etc....

Toronto could not care less about the CFL.

[Booch]

Just now, rebusrankin said:

Toronto could not care less about the CFL.

BO basically said he is in it to win it...and with that he wants to be in a place where the cast around him is a supporting cast...players and coaches to get it done....so effectively him being our marquee player without saying it as such "show me you ready to get real and do this right" or I'm taking my ball and going where someone else is

Shot across the bow so to say and rightfully so, and good on him...Someone had to say it...

[wbbfan]

37 minutes ago, bustamente said:

To tell you the truth I wouldn’t mind a new OC and DC next year, Hogan gone is a no brainer but I didn’t like the schemes Younger was running

JY took a defensive unit with no ability to get pressure from the DL, or gap cancel, and gave up the fewest opposition points and tds in the league. Not to mention we ran away with the league lead on offensive give aways, leaving our D in a terrible field position field.  They also played among the most minutes as our off was among the worst in 2nouts. We also gave up the fewest first downs. 2nd lowest passing yards against, lowest completion percentage against. 2nd best in terms of opposition QBR. We had the lowest of TDs per drive given up on D in the league by a large margin. 

Worst front 6 in the league by a mile, and he gave us one of the best defenses in the league. Not only that, he did the same thing last year. Both years, he had to wholly rebuild our secondary mid season. 

If we had a decent DL, and didn't use all our DIs on special teams, his D the last two years would've been 21 levels of dominant maybe even more so. 

Edited 1 hour ago by wbbfan

[Tracker]

39 minutes ago, bustamente said:

I can see O’Shea going back home, can also see ZC wanting to back out east, but Brady I don’t see it

We are all hoping and praying you are correct. Maybe we can crowd-fund Hogan's one-way busfare?

[Booch]

2 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

JY took a defensive unit with no ability to get pressure from the DL, or gap cancel, and gave up the fewest opposition points and tds in the league. Not to mention we ran away with the league lead on offensive give aways, leaving our D in a terrible field position field.  They also played the most minutes as our off was among the worst in 2nouts. We also gave up the fewest first downs. 2nd lowest passing yards against, lowest completion percentage against. 2nd best in terms of opposition QBR. We had the lowest of TDs per drive given up on D in the league by a large margin. 

Worst front 6 in the league by a mile, and he gave us one of the best defenses in the league. Not only that, he did the same thing last year. Both years, he had to wholly rebuild our secondary mid season. 

If we had a decent DL, and didn't use all our DIs on special teams, his D the last two years would've been 21 levels of dominant maybe even more so. 

yup....arguably the worst defensive front in recent history...2 yrs running when you really look at it...

1 minute ago, Tracker said:

We are all hoping and praying you are correct. Maybe we can crowd-fund Hogan's one-way busfare?

Hopefully OC Guy just packs up his Volkswagen Beetle and leaves voluntarily...I dont know what he drives...But that's what I see him in

[Tracker]

2 minutes ago, Booch said:

yup....arguably the worst defensive front in recent history...2 yrs running when you really look at it...

Hopefully OC Guy just packs up his Volkswagen Beetle and leaves voluntarily...I dont know what he drives...But that's what I see him in

I could see him in a Lada.

[wbbfan]

20 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Maybe but this rush 3 delay blitz try and cover isn’t going to work, maybe we do need more talent but they are going to have to shed a lot of deadwood off that D

We ran the 30 significantly less this last year than the previous year. Our front play was basically entirely different. The previous year we used a wide alignment hoping ends could win a battle. This year we used a tight alignment to close the middle. 

The delay blitz, is a play adjustment based on what the offence does. Lber has HCF zone, if the qb rolls or is flushed he becomes a rusher. The actual delayed blitz was extremely low use from JY, and the Lber blitz package was a tiny fraction of previous years. 

2 years ago JY made a D with a new secondary that dominated opposition passing games. But teams eventually adjusted to the drop 9 rush 3. This year, we ran the drop 9 match zone much less that we ran last year. Calgary ran our previous years base D much more than we did. The secondary JY managed to cobble together could not work the switches and split field zones to save their life. So he again had to recreate the entire D, mid season. 

Tbh, what JY did the last 2 seasons is the most impressive thing I've ever seen from a DC up here. If we fix the ratio, roster the best players, and give him a DL who can get a farts worth of pressure next year that D will carry us. 

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

yup....arguably the worst defensive front in recent history...2 yrs running when you really look at it...

Hopefully OC Guy just packs up his Volkswagen Beetle and leaves voluntarily...I dont know what he drives...But that's what I see him in

When you look at the stretch where wj wasn't able to accomplish any thing, and we ran 2 canadian DTs with korny on the ar playing primary reps its truly astounding how good the D ended up performing. That was the most pitiful DL I've ever seen pound for pound at any level. I've seen junior teams do better with no more than 1 guy over 200 lbs on their dl. 

[rebusrankin]

12 minutes ago, Tracker said:

We are all hoping and praying you are correct. Maybe we can crowd-fund Hogan's one-way busfare?

I can offer up $10 and a five day old doughnit.

[Tracker]

16 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

I can offer up $10 and a five day old doughnit.

It's a start. Allah the merciful will reward you.

[Booch]

22 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

I can offer up $10 and a five day old doughnit.

is that like a doughnut....but different?

[wbbfan]

33 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

I can offer up $10 and a five day old doughnit.

I’ll pay for his ticket, first class, to toronto. Then he can find his way where ever he pleases. 

[17to85]

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

but I didn’t like the schemes Younger was running

I think the scheme was fine, you just need the right guys up front to make it work. So this goes to who is responsible for that 

 

[bustamente]

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

I think the scheme was fine, you just need the right guys up front to make it work. So this goes to who is responsible for that 

 

Could be personnel, I just saw way to many play with no pressure no coverage and poor tackling, especially down the stretch.