Cats looking efficient on their first drive, March down the field annnnnd cough up the ball with a fumble.

 

Volume down on your big-screens, boys. That horn is going to be Tylenol inducing.

2 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I just trust JBR to have inside info.... That scares me a lot. Especially if there's bad blood with him and Osh now that caused this. I hate the thought of The Trinity having a fissure....

I missed this. What inside information are you referring to? 

Edited November 4, 20232 yr by canadianjayhawk

9 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Man if we lose Walters to Hamilton, that is big big trouble....

Yeah, if it's because of the coaches cap it is bad & shouldn't happen. If it's other personal reasons then that's Walters decision to leave & we have to move on. Just as long as we hire a great replacement. 

3 minutes ago, canadianjayhawk said:

I missed this. What inside information are you referring to? 

Go back a page... Walters to Ham to be President of Football Ops. Could (will?) Take Dru with him. Sigh.

1 minute ago, Noeller said:

Go back a page... Walters to Ham to be President of Football Ops. Could (will?) Take Dru with him. Sigh.

Thanks. I sure hope this isn't true, but it wouldn't surprise me. 

5 minutes ago, Noeller said:

I just trust JBR to have inside info.... That scares me a lot. Especially if there's bad blood with him and Osh now that caused this. I hate the thought of The Trinity having a fissure....

It's a confluence.  Walters going home anyway and Hamilton having some big changes.  Steinauer has wanted out for a couple years but hung on for Bob Young.  Both Walters and Steinauer want to go home for family reasons, not any big organizational issues.  Hamilton has a nice setup for Walters with the AGM's to just be the guy who oversees the football operation, not a rebuild.

40 minutes ago, Booch said:

If Walters leaves...which I dount...It will be Goviea.....Danny Mac has said he won't displace from home base for the season

Wheres this crap that Walters is leaving coming from?

6 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Go back a page... Walters to Ham to be President of Football Ops. Could (will?) Take Dru with him. Sigh.

Thanks, missed that as well

3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

It's a confluence.  Walters going home anyway and Hamilton having some big changes.  Steinauer has wanted out for a couple years but hung on for Bob Young.  Both Walters and Steinauer want to go home for family reasons, not any big organizational issues.  Hamilton has a nice setup for Walters with the AGM's to just be the guy who oversees the football operation, not a rebuild.

This is seriously upsetting for me. I am not ready for the death of The Trinity. I sincerely hope this doesn't mean there's bad blood with Osh and Walters. That would really be a shame. I guess Goveia gets a promotion. Maybe that Cyril guy does too? God I hate this so much...

1 minute ago, Noeller said:

This is seriously upsetting for me. I am not ready for the death of The Trinity. I sincerely hope this doesn't mean there's bad blood with Osh and Walters. That would really be a shame. I guess Goveia gets a promotion. Maybe that Cyril guy does too? God I hate this so much...

I haven't heard of any bad blood. Has anyone else?

18 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Go back a page... Walters to Ham to be President of Football Ops. Could (will?) Take Dru with him. Sigh.

I could see Walters going back to S. Ont.

But man, Dru Brown in Steeltown? They have no clue at QB. Steinauer will break him.

21 minutes ago, Doublezero said:

I could see Walters going back to S. Ont.

But man, Dru Brown in Steeltown? They have no clue at QB. Steinauer will break him.

Again, of you read JBRs info (which is 100% based in fact) Steinauer is out, for family reasons. Has wanted out for a couple years but stayed for Caretaker Bob. Now he can go home and Milanovich can take over. 

1 hour ago, canadianjayhawk said:

I haven't heard of any bad blood. Has anyone else?

This is the extent of my bad blood knowledge.

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

This is seriously upsetting for me. I am not ready for the death of The Trinity. I sincerely hope this doesn't mean there's bad blood with Osh and Walters. That would really be a shame. I guess Goveia gets a promotion. Maybe that Cyril guy does too? God I hate this so much...

That’s quite a rabbit hole you’re falling down, Alice.

13 minutes ago, Jesse said:

That’s quite a rabbit hole you’re falling down, Alice.

It's gonna be truth soon enough. Here's hoping he can go out with one last cup before he heads home.

2 hours ago, canadianjayhawk said:

I haven't heard of any bad blood. Has anyone else?

The only time I have heard it mentioned was by a few posters who say that Walters must be unhappy with the roster management decisions of O’Shea (presumably because they are unhappy with it, so every one in the organization must be as well) and it has caused a rift. And that the rift extends to Miller, who needs to sit OSH down and give him a talking to. Serious projection from some disgruntled posters, IMO. 

But if any of the “insiders” know differently, by all means let’s hear it. It would be very surprising to me though. Why would Walters be mad that the roster he has built has been very successfully deployed by OSH at a level of excellence not seen consistently in these parts for some 60 years. And is Miller really upset with his coach for rostering a team that has gotten them their 3rd straight home West Final playoff game, led to a surge in season tickets and sellouts, and big profits?

Things have not been this rosy in Bomberland in my lifetime, except for those unhappy folks lamenting the inevitable decline and worrying about the other shoe dropping instead of embracing the joyful ride, and the mild criticisms take on a life of their own, and then it manifests itself into these types of rumours of a hidden bad blood that will topple the house of cards. Just my take. 

Re: Bad Blood... Maybe I misinterpreted JBR post about why Walters is heading to Ham, but you can rest assured that JBR isn't BSing when he says Walters is going (for apparent family reasons) and that Steinauer is also leaving and Milanovich is taking over... Among the big changes in Ham this coming offseason.

Nothing is forever, Bombers will be fine 

I don't believe it's any real conflict in the organization.

Walters has been doing 24/7/365 type jobs for most of the last 15 or so years.

It appears that he is ready to take a step back.  That's pretty clear.  His kids are both high school aged and his wife has been developing her own career.  He seems like a guy ready to take more time on that end. 

The Hamilton stuff is just speculation given how that's lining up and potential for him to be more of the big picture guy in that front office than the take care of every detail role.

Just now, JuranBoldenRules said:

I don't believe it's any real conflict in the organization.

Walters has been doing 24/7/365 type jobs for most of the last 15 or so years.

It appears that he is ready to take a step back.  That's pretty clear.  His kids are both high school aged and his wife has been developing her own career.  He seems like a guy ready to take more time on that end. 

The Hamilton stuff is just speculation given how that's lining up and potential for him to be more of the big picture guy in that front office than the take care of every detail role.

Appreciate the info. You're one of the few on here I trust explicitly.

If Walters leaves, do we go Goveia or do we get Ridgemaiden back?

9 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

If Walters leaves, do we go Goveia or do we get Ridgemaiden back?

This is the conversation I'm interested in. I assume Goevia but I'm curious who WANTS the job and who would work well with Osh. The thing about Walters and Osh is that they've been buddies forever. 

4 minutes ago, Noeller said:

This is the conversation I'm interested in. I assume Goevia but I'm curious who WANTS the job and who would work well with Osh. The thing about Walters and Osh is that they've been buddies forever. 

I feel like they'd go Goveia out of loyalty and him being here so long but that Ridgemaiden may be the better choice due to his ability to find players.

1 minute ago, rebusrankin said:

I feel like they'd go Goveia out of loyalty and him being here so long but that Ridgemaiden may be the better choice due to his ability to find players.

Everyone seems super high on that Cyril guy who scouts down south for them... But not sure if he's just a bird dog or if he is eyeing up the big chair. There's so much that goes with being a GM. Walters is a friggin genius when it came to the cap and all that... Going to be near impossible to replace.

5 hours ago, Noeller said:

Again, of you read JBRs info (which is 100% based in fact) Steinauer is out, for family reasons. Has wanted out for a couple years but stayed for Caretaker Bob. Now he can go home and Milanovich can take over. 

OK I did not see that. Milanovich the QB whisperer. Walters takes Dru with him to Ham. Hmmm. So will Walters be dealing with himself when taking offers on Brown's neg rights prior to free agency period? That would be a conflict of interest, right? Everyone seems to think there will be a Dru Brown lottery so Bombers should be able to demand plenty for first right to talk/tamper with him/his agent ... 

Edited November 5, 20232 yr by Doublezero

25 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Everyone seems super high on that Cyril guy who scouts down south for them... But not sure if he's just a bird dog or if he is eyeing up the big chair. There's so much that goes with being a GM. Walters is a friggin genius when it came to the cap and all that... Going to be near impossible to replace.

That guy is basically a scouting intern.  He's been nowhere near operating a football team.