I wasn't sure where this Israel, Iran and China debacle should go, so I thought I would start a new thread and post it here:

Interesting article disusing Israel's actions in trying to destabilize Iran and how it monumentally backfired and brought China into the Middle East... it's kind of crazy

 

"To the extent that Netanyahu played a role here, his plot has backfired monumentally. If the China deal goes through, Iran is much strengthened and its hard liners are entirely unleashed. The positioning of Chinese security forces in Iran will make it increasingly risky for other countries such as Israel or the US to strike Iran, lest they come into conflict with nuclear-armed China."

Edited September 10, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

Israeli Protests Reignite As Netanyahu Pushes New Justice Bill

TEL AVIV (Reuters) - Israel’s business hub Tel Aviv saw the biggest anti-government protest in weeks on Saturday against a renewed push by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s hard-right coalition to overhaul the justice system.

Tens of thousands demonstrated across the country, with the rally in Tel Aviv drawing crowds far larger than recent protests, news channels N12 News and Channel 13 reported.
Nationwide demonstrations began in January when the government announced a plan to overhaul the judiciary with a legislation package that would roll back some Supreme Court powers and give the coalition decisive sway in picking judges.

The protests subsided a little from late March when Netanyahu, under pressure at home and abroad, suspended the plan for compromise talks with opposition parties meant to reach broad agreement over justice reforms.

But, deeming the talks pointless last month, Netanyahu re-launched his government’s quest to rein in what it sees as an overreaching, left-leaning and elitist Supreme Court, though he has said the new proposals are more moderate.

Parliament is expected next week to hold the first of three votes on the first new bill, which limits some of the Supreme Court’s power to rule against decisions by the government, ministers and elected officials.
The opposition says that move is another dangerous step towards curbing judicial independence that would eventually subject the Supreme Court to politicians and open the door to corruption.

Protest leaders have said they plan to intensify demonstrations next week.

“We have no choice, we have to defend our democracy,” said Sigal Peled-Leviatan, 51, a tech worker demonstrating in Tel Aviv.

The government’s drive to overhaul the judiciary has stirred fears for Israel’s democratic health and dented the economy, with the shekel falling more than 5% since it began.

Even as he argues his innocence in a long-running corruption trial, Netanyahu has sought to ease concern among Western allies and foreign investors.

 

                            

BREAKING: Traffic over the Kerch Bridge between occupied Crimea and Russia has been stopped. Russian media report the cause may have been a Ukrainian attack. Locals say they heard multiple explosions and at least one bridge span has collapsed. 5am Ukrainian local time.

 

 

                                 

poland invade ukraine  😂

I guess if you can bet on trump and win, any gambit seems reasonable.

or, losing it.

 

 

Edited July 22, 20232 yr by Mark F

4 hours ago, Mark F said:

poland invade ukraine  😂

I guess if you can bet on trump and win, any gambit seems reasonable.

or, losing it.

 

 

Between Russian war losses, political setbacks and the near-civil war, Putin is the weakest he has ever been and is throwing out as many threats as possible in the hopes that one of them might have traction. 

                                                                  Putin continues to kill off any potential opposition:

                                                  

 

 

                                                                                               Putin's war is going well......

 

                                                                

People of the world need to wake up as leaders are trying to grab power and become authoritarian rulers, democracies are being put to the test 

11 minutes ago, bustamente said:

People of the world need to wake up as leaders are trying to grab power and become authoritarian rulers, democracies are being put to the test 

Well correct me if I am wrong but according to star trek we're getting close to WW3 time...

A group of Nato countries may be willing to put troops on the ground in Ukraine if member states including the US do not provide tangible security guarantees to Kyiv the former Nato secretary general Anders Rasmussen has said.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken says Ukraine has recaptured half of the territory Russia initially seized in the invasion. "It has already recovered about 50 percent of what was initially taken," Blinken said in an interview with CNN today.

The commander of the Russian "Leningrad Regiment," Colonel Yevgeny Vashunin has been killed in Ukraine. That was announced by the Chairman of the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg, Alexander Belsky.

                                                          

So now that the Ukraine-NATO offensive has observably failed, which was the obvious outcome since the start of the SMO, and they're now pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel on munitions, tanks and troops... How long till the neoclowns start peace talks? How long till they get rid of Zelensky? Will they then pivot to China and lose two major engagements to keep their streak alive?

 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Tracker said:

                                                          

I wonder if Abe Froman will be at his wake.

Edited August 2, 20232 yr by bluto
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8 minutes ago, bluto said:

So now that the Ukraine-NATO offensive has observably failed, which was the obvious outcome since the start of the SMO, and they're now pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel on munitions, tanks and troops... How long till the neoclowns start peace talks? How long till they get rid of Zelensky? Will they then pivot to China and lose two major engagements to keep their streak alive?

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder if Abe Froman will be at his wake.

Just Oscar Meyer.

                                                           

"Fired", will be the least of his troubles.

52 minutes ago, bluto said:

"Fired", will be the least of his troubles.

I think fired has a different meaning over there...

 

5 hours ago, bigg jay said:

I think fired has a different meaning over there...

 

Was thinking more along these lines….

9 hours ago, bluto said:

So now that the Ukraine-NATO offensive has observably failed, which was the obvious outcome since the start of the SMO, and they're now pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel on munitions, tanks and troops... How long till the neoclowns start peace talks? How long till they get rid of Zelensky? Will they then pivot to China and lose two major engagements to keep their streak alive?

Wait.. what?

How has the Ukrainian offensive failed? It hasn't even ramped up yet. 

Who uses "SMO"? other than russians? It's a war. the aggressor is russia.

Peace talks might be on the horizon. Who is gettin grid of Zelenski?

 

These are interesting takes and I am interested in hearing more.  On the russian war on Ukraine, it's pretty one sided here- very interested in hearing another take. 

Edited August 2, 20232 yr by Wanna-B-Fanboy

7 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Was thinking more along these lines….

They've got options...

39 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

Wait.. what?

How has the NATO offensive failed? It hasn't even ramped up yet. 

Who uses "SMO"? other than russians? It's a war. the aggressor is russia.

Peace talks might be on the horizon. Who is gettin grid of Zelenski?

 

These are interesting takes and I am interested in hearing more.  On the russian war on Ukraine, it's pretty one sided here- very interested in hearing another take. 

I find some conveniently downplay/ignore who the aggressor was that started this whole thing.The only response I here when directly pressing them on this is oh this war has been going on well before Russia took the offensive here. 
 

Okay, and?

54 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I find some conveniently downplay/ignore who the aggressor was that started this whole thing.The only response I here when directly pressing them on this is oh this war has been going on well before Russia took the offensive here. 
 

Okay, and?

Yeah, the many other times that Russia was the aggressor.  Have never heard of any point when Ukraine has done anything in the past to provoke Russia in any way.

23 minutes ago, Sard said:

Yeah, the many other times that Russia was the aggressor.  Have never heard of any point when Ukraine has done anything in the past to provoke Russia in any way.

They existed without a puppet government! How much more aggression do you need to see?

3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

They existed without a puppet government! How much more aggression do you need to see?

Exactly- if Zelinski was more like Lukashenko, there would be no need for the SMO.

Edited August 2, 20232 yr by Wanna-B-Fanboy