Well, interesting story here is the two QBs who these teams traded for in Franklin and Manziel have failed to live up to expectations while two unknowns in Bethel-Thompson and Pipkin have shown some great potential to be league stars.  No doubt the Argos will keep rolling with MBT if he keeps winning, and even though the Als spent a fortune on Manziel I'd say they'd be foolish not to consider Pipkin as their future.  The guy showed some great poise while under pressure last week, and if he played for any other team I believe his star would rise fast.

Shame on Mike Sherman and Kavis Reed for their stupid QB evaluations and not starting him over Willy right out the gate.

8 minutes ago, USABomberfan said:

Beautiful throw there evading pressure and throwing Lewis open.

I mean there ya go.  If the rest of his guys would learn to catch like that he'd have way more than 16 points on the board.

I'm standing by my point that he has just as much of Reilly's capabilities.

He looks very good, no doubt. Amazing what a change of QB can do. Especially a young, strong one that can use his legs to score and evade pursuit with a strong arm to throw his receivers open. Wish we had one like that. 😉

3 minutes ago, J5V said:

He looks very good, no doubt. Amazing what a change of QB can do. Especially a young, strong one that can use his legs to score and evade pursuit with a strong arm to throw his receivers open. Wish we had one like that. 😉

I'll tell you one thing, Brandon Bridge and Jonathon Jennings had better pray he stays in MTL because if he doesn't, he'll end up on one of those two teams and one of those 2 guys will not see the field again.

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Ernest Jackson and BJ Cunningham are single-handedly killing the Als tonight.

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Hamilton might be in the mix now with Williams out with a suspected ruptured Achilles.  Don't know if they are but I wouldn't be surprised.  Losing Willimas is huge. 

You heard them say that on TSN last night. 

Or it was an interview with jones after the game..right ?..... I seen it in the tweet thing here this afternoon

 

Edited August 25, 20187 yr by NorthernSkunk

Ernest should be cut right now, he actually looks worse than Lankford out there.

7 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said:

You heard them say that on TSN last night. 

Or it was an interview with jones after the game..right ?..... I seen it in the tweet thing here this afternoon

 

Just my guess. It makes sense, though. 

Interesting on both final drives we see how little faith each coach has in their QB.

Can't believe the screen call by Trestman.  Lost the Argos the game.

Apparently Trestman is only a good coach when he has a future HOF QB.

Yeah I was about to cut Sherman a new one for playing not to lose and not allowing Pipkin to throw in the end zone.  I didn't really like the screen call either but had Muamba not been there it probably would have worked.

1 minute ago, USABomberfan said:

Yeah I was about to cut Sherman a new one for playing not to lose and not allowing Pipkin to throw in the end zone.  I didn't really like the screen call either but had Muamba not been there it probably would have worked.

Insane to throw a pass behind the line of scrimmage when you're already in field goal range to tie.  Insane.

Both QBs had about the same amount of passing yards, though I'm more impressed with Pipkin doing it with a whole team full of Stankfords.

Both teams played well. So, what do you do if you're Johnny Manziel & James Franklin? No way those 2 see the field unless there are injuries to Pipkin & Thompson. 

4 minutes ago, USABomberfan said:

Both QBs had about the same amount of passing yards, though I'm more impressed with Pipkin doing it with a whole team full of Stankfords.

Cunningham was good late. Some clutch grabs.

I didn't like the push-off call on Green followed by what could easily have been a PI call against Montreal. Toronto bench was livid. Montreal with lots of help to win this game.

6 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Both teams played well. So, what do you do if you're Johnny Manziel & James Franklin? No way those 2 see the field unless there are injuries to Pipkin & Thompson. 

No way u can take Tony Pips out but Montreal will. Manziel will start when hes healthy. They gave up way 2 much to get him

18 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Interesting on both final drives we see how little faith each coach has in their QB.

Can't believe the screen call by Trestman.  Lost the Argos the game.

Very Lapo-ish.

Pipkin? I thought that was Damon Allen out there tonight. Nice to see Montreal getting their act together. 

Its sad that you can be 3-6 and one game off hosting a home playoff game. Ambrosie can say its recent but this nonsense goes back decades.

On a side note... Toronto's D is awful. 

16 minutes ago, Goalie said:

No way u can take Tony Pips out but Montreal will. Manziel will start when hes healthy. They gave up way 2 much to get him

That's Kavis Reed's problem & not Sherman. I think Reed will be fired after the season is over.

25 minutes ago, J5V said:

Cunningham was good late. Some clutch grabs.

I didn't like the push-off call on Green followed by what could easily have been a PI call against Montreal. Toronto bench was livid. Montreal with lots of help to win this game.

Well, Jackson wasn't and it was cuz of him that Toronto had a shot at winning this.

6 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

That's Kavis Reed's problem & not Sherman. I think Reed will be fired after the season is over.

Well, Sherman should still be gone too cuz he got lucky his silly play not to lose red zone trip didn't end up costing him the game.  Plus some of his poorly designed plays handcuff Pipkin 

But definitely if the Als get fixed it's going to start by getting a new GM.

1 minute ago, USABomberfan said:

Well, Sherman should still be gone too cuz he got lucky his silly play not to lose red zone trip didn't end up costing him the game.  Plus some of his poorly designed plays handcuff Pipkin 

But definitely if the Als get fixed it's going to start by getting a new GM.

The Kavis Reed era will take years to fix just like the Joe Mack era here.

1) Two very good performances by rookie QBs. They made plays and kept each team close and in the game. They kept it exciting. Too bad one of them had to lose.

2) That late call for a screen pass? Yech. They really only needed to use Wilder in a run and even if he only gets his rushing average for the night 3.2 yards, they would have attempted the FG about 9 yards closer. 

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The Kavis Reed era will take years to fix just like the Joe Mack era here.

Well, yeah likely but if the Als are smart they'll realize they got a QB they can build around if they're willing to invest in him.  I mean, why would you not?

I guarantee you Pipkin's body of work will not go unnoticed and if the Als don't retain him, he'll get snatched up instantly by BC or SSK and someone will lose their starting QB job there to him.

I'd say even though there may be a few years needed to restock the OL and WRs in MTL, the coaching job might get attractive if you know you get to work with Pipkin, if Reed is gone, and if Andrew Wettenhall stops being an a**hole and gets some sense in his small brain.

1 hour ago, USABomberfan said:

Well, yeah likely but if the Als are smart they'll realize they got a QB they can build around if they're willing to invest in him.  I mean, why would you not?

I guarantee you Pipkin's body of work will not go unnoticed and if the Als don't retain him, he'll get snatched up instantly by BC or SSK and someone will lose their starting QB job there to him.

I'd say even though there may be a few years needed to restock the OL and WRs in MTL, the coaching job might get attractive if you know you get to work with Pipkin, if Reed is gone, and if Andrew Wettenhall stops being an a**hole and gets some sense in his small brain.

Why do you think Pipkin would get snatched up? He'd sign with the Als when his contract is up. As far as JJ goes, he looked good early in his career but flamed out. Over the years, I've seen a lot of qbs come & go so I'm a little more cautiously optimistic than you are.  No question Pipkin could be a great qb but I think it's still too early yet to proclaim him the Saviour in Montreal.