Well it’s Canada Day! Hopefully the last post in this thread is the Jets hoisting the Cup.   Enjoy the frenzy!

 

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I wondered that myself.  They can all afford it.  Maybe its the time involved and some would rather vacation.  Maybe there are only so many spots available and you need referrals.  Didnt Trouba do it and quit?

That's what I heard.  He couldn't hack it and just quit.  Who knows if that's true.  I just think that if there is a spot available and you can see the results with your own eyes, and you want to make a career of this hockey thing, then why wouldn't you invest in yourself.  But I know I am talking about 20 year old kids who think they are indestructible so not so easy to convince them I guess.

1 minute ago, kelownabomberfan said:

That's what I heard.  He couldn't hack it and just quit.  Who knows if that's true.  I just think that if there is a spot available and you can see the results with your own eyes, and you want to make a career of this hockey thing, then why wouldn't you invest in yourself.  But I know I am talking about 20 year old kids who think they are indestructible so not so easy to convince them I guess.

Thats true.  If you're a really good player making millions doing your own thing, what is the incentive to spend your summers doing that?  Drinking Beet Juice etc lol  Takes a special person to be that dedicated. That's Uber Dedication.  We're lucky to have Scheif.  Last stats on Roslo were 6'1, 187.  Would love to see him add a bit more weight to the frame.

https://www.tsn.ca/talent/nhl-increasingly-reliant-on-young-defencemen-1.1148442

NHL defencemen getting younger... although this chart lists Myers as our #1 Dman.... so maybe the info is a bit skewed

Would be nice to see the Jets draft a scoring Dman again - think our forwards are pretty stocked for sometime

13 minutes ago, Floyd said:

https://www.tsn.ca/talent/nhl-increasingly-reliant-on-young-defencemen-1.1148442

NHL defencemen getting younger... although this chart lists Myers as our #1 Dman.... so maybe the info is a bit skewed

Would be nice to see the Jets draft a scoring Dman again - think our forwards are pretty stocked for sometime

Would be nice to have an LHD putting in more then Morrissey for sure.

1 minute ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Would be nice to have an LHD putting in more then Morrissey for sure.

For a shutdown D with almost zero powerplay time, I actually think Morrissey is producing really well

After Niku, I don't see a lot of two-way D waiting in the wings though on either side

1 minute ago, Floyd said:

For a shutdown D with almost zero powerplay time, I actually think Morrissey is producing really well

After Niku, I don't see a lot of two-way D waiting in the wings though on either side

We could pretend that Laine is LHD - which is he on first unit PP - and then our totals really go up

2 hours ago, Floyd said:

For a shutdown D with almost zero powerplay time, I actually think Morrissey is producing really well

After Niku, I don't see a lot of two-way D waiting in the wings though on either side

Samberg will be good. Then u got a guy like Kovacevic who is RHD tho and even Logan Stanley. Jets lack top end center depth. Niku is more of an O based D.. Lots of points for him. 

Edited July 26, 20187 yr by Goalie

18 hours ago, Goalie said:

Samberg will be good. Then u got a guy like Kovacevic who is RHD tho and even Logan Stanley. Jets lack top end center depth. Niku is more of an O based D.. Lots of points for him. 

Think that we can add some top end center depth if we trade Trouba (or should I say "when we trade Trouba")?

2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

Think that we can add some top end center depth if we trade Trouba (or should I say "when we trade Trouba")?

I think they likely trade him for a similar D. Young shutdown type. 

Just now, Goalie said:

I think they likely trade him for a similar D. Young shutdown type. 

But why would another team trade a D for another D ?

1 minute ago, Brandon said:

But why would another team trade a D for another D ?

Why did Montreal trade Subban for Weber? D for D trades happen quite a bit. 

32 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Why did Montreal trade Subban for Weber? D for D trades happen quite a bit. 

not sure that's a relevant comparison.  Teams trade for need, not because other teams did similar trades.  If center depth is a concern, then Chevy will address it, no matter who he is dangling.  So to respond to your original comment, no I don't think that Chevy is going to just dump Trouba for another D-man, that doesn't make much sense.

23 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

not sure that's a relevant comparison.  Teams trade for need, not because other teams did similar trades.  If center depth is a concern, then Chevy will address it, no matter who he is dangling.  So to respond to your original comment, no I don't think that Chevy is going to just dump Trouba for another D-man, that doesn't make much sense.

I think, if traded, the likelyhood is a young D with potential to be really good.  Not someone who can fill Trouba's position now, but hopefully later.  The other team would make that trade because they want Trouba now.  And I'd suspect the D coming back, as much potential as he might have, will not be as highly thought of as Trouba, meaning a high pick and a solid second player in the deal as well.  Either another D man or a centre prospect.  Petan might go the other way to sweeten our side.

If Tampa can't land Karlson, would they deal for Trouba and include Sergachev?

10 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I think, if traded, the likelyhood is a young D with potential to be really good.  Not someone who can fill Trouba's position now, but hopefully later.  The other team would make that trade because they want Trouba now.  And I'd suspect the D coming back, as much potential as he might have, will not be as highly thought of as Trouba, meaning a high pick and a solid second player in the deal as well.  Either another D man or a centre prospect.  Petan might go the other way to sweeten our side.

Yup, Chevy needs to unload some salary of guys like Petan who just have no future here.

3 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

If Tampa can't land Karlson, would they deal for Trouba and include Sergachev?

Or Foote plus. I think so. 

https://www.tsn.ca/capitals-sign-wilson-to-six-year-31m-deal-1.1149486

13 minutes ago, iHeart said:

https://www.tsn.ca/capitals-sign-wilson-to-six-year-31m-deal-1.1149486

15g now worth 5 a year?

30 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

15g now worth 5 a year?

Hes going to be a 20 25 goal scorer with 50 to 60 points so yes it is

10 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Hes going to be a 20 25 goal scorer with 50 to 60 points so yes it is

Based on what?  He has 35 career goals in 5 seasons?

Franklin is terrible when blitzed on....

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/rangers-sign-defenceman-brady-skjei-six-year-contract/

 

16 hours ago, Brandon said:

Based on what?  He has 35 career goals in 5 seasons?

He had 5 goals 15 points in 21 playoff games. 

1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/rangers-sign-defenceman-brady-skjei-six-year-contract/

 

That seems like a lot. 

6 hours ago, Goalie said:

He had 5 goals 15 points in 21 playoff games. 

So they pay him based on 20 games rather this whole body of work?