Preseason is over.  Time to get to the real season and do it in style like only Jagr can.

 

46 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Rumors out there that Kovalchuk is interesting in playing for 5 teams...... 

Winnipeg is on his list. 

Anyone tell him that the franchise has moved from Atlanta? 

 

But seriously, is he fast enough to play? What sort of salary would he command? And, no thanks. 

From what I read he's mostly likely ending up with the Bruins or Islanders..

9 minutes ago, Brandon said:

From what I read he's mostly likely ending up with the Bruins or Islanders..

I wonder what his relationship is with Lamoriello after the big contract and retirement thing?

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

From what I read he's mostly likely ending up with the Bruins or Islanders..

He wants to win. NYI aint winning. 

15 hours ago, Goalie said:

Rumors out there that Kovalchuk is interesting in playing for 5 teams...... 

Winnipeg is on his list. 

Impossible.  No free agents want to come to Winnipeg. 

Personally i dont think he signs here cuz hes a winger and we dont need that. 

8 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Personally i dont think he signs here cuz hes a winger and we dont need that. 

nope no thanks.  

26 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

nope no thanks.  

If we traded Perreault and Kovy took a 1 year prove it deal, yeah I'd sign him. Hes an elite player. 

Use cap space and move certain player(s) like Perreault to sign Peter Stastny please.

2 to 3 years would be nice but I assume at 32 years of age he'd want longer so he can drift off into the sunset nicely.

I'm assuming some team will give him a longer term contract.  

Stastny is gone. You know we were pretty damn good without him also.. 

 

I hope you meant Paul tho as Peter is like 60. 

Just now, Goalie said:

Stastny is gone. You know we were pretty damn good without him also.. 

 

I hope you meant Paul tho as Peter is like 60. 

Yes Paul. :-) And yes we were good before but he makes us better.

Has Stastny signed with someone?

10 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Yes Paul. 🙂 And yes we were good before but he makes us better.

Has Stastny signed with someone?

He cant until July 1st. Just dont think hes affordable. 

Heck of an opportunity for Montreal. 

 

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Heck of an opportunity for Montreal. 

 

Unlike other years i could not even tell you who #1 is going to be. Feels weak.

3 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Unlike other years i could not even tell you who #1 is going to be. Feels weak.

Rasmus Dahlin is expected to be taken first.  Also Andre Svechnikov is ranked near the top.  Plays for the Barrie Colts.  Brady Tkachuk is up there too.

Not sure how strong/weak it is.  We might hear less because the Jets dont have a first round pick.

At 60, I've seen Curtis Hall.  6'2" 200lb Centre in the USHL.

Oliver Ekman -Larsson signs 8 year, $8m per deal.

37 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Oliver Ekman -Larsson signs 8 year, $8m per deal.

Good for him. Staying in AZ is a real franchise saver.

Im not sure what it does to a potential Trouba contract.  OEL has better stats and a longer body of work.  But his stats aren't *way* better than Trouba...but probably enough that OEL is an offensive D man while Trouba really isnt.

This draft? Likely stronger than last years... In terms of overall talent level but prob not as deep. Top 20 is pretty strong tho.. Def some interesting names.  

Dhalin. Svech. Tkachuk. Wahlstrom. Bouchard. Dobson. Strong. Lots of question marks tho. 

2019 is stronger

3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Im not sure what it does to a potential Trouba contract.  OEL has better stats and a longer body of work.  But his stats aren't *way* better than Trouba...but probably enough that OEL is an offensive D man while Trouba really isnt.

OEL has way more points than Trouba. OEL is legit top 5 D in the league. Trouba? Maybe top 30. Argument could be made that Morrissey and Buff are better. Troubas high for points was 34 last season. OEL lowest was pretty much that in his 2nd year. Trouba? I see 6 million per max. 

Edited June 12, 20187 yr by Goalie

Just now, Goalie said:

OEL has way more points than Trouba. OEL is legit top 5 D in the league. Trouba? Maybe top 30. Argument could be made that Morrissey and Buff are better

OLM:  GP: 576  Goals: 102  Points: 290

Trouba: GP: 326  Goals:  34  Points: 129

So OLM has 68 more goals and 161 more points in 250 more games.

GPG:  OLM:  .18  Trouba:  .10

PPG:  OLM  .50  Trouba: .40

So OLM certainly better but not massively so, as far as offense goes.  But I think it shows OLM in that category of offensive D man and Trouba not so that should impact the contract.  It likely works to Trouba's favour in that his agent is sure to use it as a comp. 

But if we accept Trouba is 80% the offense of OLM, and use that to determine a contract compared to OLM, it comes in at $6.4 Million per which is probably fairly reasonable for a long term deal.

Put OEL on the Jets and Trouba on the Yotes..  

OEL prob has 60 points a year. Does Trouba put up 30 even in Arizona? 

6 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

But if we accept Trouba is 80% the offense of OLM...

Not even.

Trouba will argue that he's younger and has potential to be OEL.  He will say, if you want me to sign for 8 years, you have to pay me based on that expectation.  Jets will counter that they have 5 years of data to tell them Trouba wont suddenly be OEL in two years.

It will come down to how much Trouba wants to sign long term and thus will take less and how much the Jets want him signed long term and will pay more.  Meet in the middle.

I gotta admit, I had to doublecheck HockeyDB for those stats you pulled @The Unknown Poster.  OEL 42 pts/82 GP and Trouba 32/82 is way closer than I would have guessed.  

The underlying numbers tell a little different story though, when you factor in 8's health.  OEL has four 42+ pt seasons and two 20 GOAL seasons.  Trouba's career bests are closer to 1/2 that.... and as much as I love the guy, I don't think he gets much closer to OEL's offence anytime soon. 

Interesting comparable, for sure.