Here we go! Late start for you folks out east...(9pm CST)......both teams hurting, but I'd say the Bombers are in bigger trouble, with a slipshod (at best) LB corps that they're hoping will hold together for 60 minutes tonight. I think we need to hope for Nichols to win a shootout.....

Just now, Atomic said:

Yeah he beat us by 3 points.  And since you seem to be so fixated on how far into the Walters/Miller regime we are, Buono has had 15 years.  And he can only beat us by 3 points!  Pretty sad, really.

lol great call.. 15 years and only 3 points ahead of us in a big game, and in a playoff game too.. my stars.. imagine how dominant we will be if we give Walters and co another 10 years!
 

 

Just now, Noeller said:

LOL!! @ stole our lunch money........oh my stars........

as if you just used that saying..

16 minutes ago, SPuDS said:

lol great call.. 15 years and only 3 points ahead of us in a big game, and in a playoff game too.. my stars.. imagine how dominant we will be if we give Walters and co another 10 years!
 

 

 

How many of those 15 years did BC make the playoffs? How many GC appearances? GC wins?

I'd take Buono as the coach and GM any day over OShea and Walters, It's not that OShea and Walters are terrible, but Buono has a track record of making winners.

 

Just now, TheSource said:

 

How many of those 15 years did BC make the playoffs? How many GC appearances? GC wins?

I'd take Buono as the coach and GM any day over OShea and Walters, It's not that OShea and Walters are terrible, but Buono has a track record of making winners.

 

im saying if they are that far ahead of oshea and walters now, imagine oshea and walters in 10 years.  Id take Wally too if we could make a straight trade.. not going to happen clearly.

10 minutes ago, TheSource said:

How many of those 15 years did BC make the playoffs? How many GC appearances? GC wins?

I'd take Buono as the coach and GM any day over OShea and Walters, It's not that OShea and Walters are terrible, but Buono has a track record of making winners.

I don't think he's available.

I'd take Tom Brady over Matt Nichols but that's about as likely as a Buono for MOS/Walters swap.

Honestly, I wouldn't trade MOS for Wally at this point in their respective careers....

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

Honestly, I wouldn't trade MOS for Wally at this point in their respective careers....

but a combo of Wally at HC and Buono at GM I would trade in a heartbeat for the combo of coach O'Shea and GM Walters. 

At this point? Ehhhhhh.... Not so sure. 

6 hours ago, Noeller said:

Honestly, I wouldn't trade MOS for Wally at this point in their respective careers....

Well yeah, all indications are that this is Wally's last year.

15 hours ago, Noeller said:

Honestly, I wouldn't trade MOS for Wally at this point in their respective careers....

I'd take Buono here in an advisory/consultant type role in a heartbeat, though. Both for O'Shea's and Walter's sake.

9 hours ago, Noeller said:

At this point? Ehhhhhh.... Not so sure. 

Hey if we got Wally as GM we'd be able to finally find a qb, he's supplied most of the league with qbs for years. 

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Hey if we got Wally as GM we'd be able to finally find a qb, he's supplied most of the league with qbs for years. 

Maybe he would become head of player personnel?

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Hey if we got Wally as GM we'd be able to finally find a qb, he's supplied most of the league with qbs for years. 

He and Barker have done amazingly well at finding QBs.

Hell, what's Barker up to these days? He and O'Shea worked together back in Toronto. Get him here in some kind of a player personnel role.

1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said:

He and Barker have done amazingly well at finding QBs.

Hell, what's Barker up to these days? He and O'Shea worked together back in Toronto. Get him here in some kind of a player personnel role.

Would love to see Barker here as Director of Player Personnel.

Barker here, in any capacity, would be a game changer in the long run...

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Hey if we got Wally as GM we'd be able to finally find a qb, he's supplied most of the league with qbs for years. 

its crazy how well he can find QB talent and then recruit them to come play in the CFL.. I can't think of anyone else who has had his success.

O'Shea is on the field as much as Wally, does that count?

2 hours ago, SPuDS said:

its crazy how well he can find QB talent and then recruit them to come play in the CFL.. I can't think of anyone else who has had his success.

The real amazing thing is that Wally is not a QB whisperer, not an XandO guy, and as a player was a LB. He does give his backup QB more starting team reps in practice than most, about a 60/40 starter to backup, I think. He also puts performance pressure on a second year backup to show marked improvement or you are let go.

Wally never finds himself in the position of keeping a guy around for a few years......and having to shove him in there, with no reps and no clue if the kid can actually do it.    Unlike say, some past Bomber history....

6 minutes ago, DanoT said:

The real amazing thing is that Wally is not a QB whisperer, not an XandO guy, and as a player was a LB. He does give his backup QB more starting team reps in practice than most, about a 60/40 starter to backup, I think. He also puts performance pressure on a second year backup to show marked improvement or you are let go.

Yes... there's something else going on.  It's not just identification of talent.  Jonathan Jennings was in Rider camp before he was ever a Lion and by all accounts looked pretty pedestrian.  Then Wally brings him in for a look, he earns the #3 job, and as a result of injuries to Lulay and John Beck, is suddenly the starter in his rookie year and lighting it up.  Why?

Just now, Atomic said:

Yes... there's something else going on.  It's not just identification of talent.  Jonathan Jennings was in Rider camp before he was ever a Lion and by all accounts looked pretty pedestrian.  Then Wally brings him in for a look, he earns the #3 job, and as a result of injuries to Lulay and John Beck, is suddenly the starter in his rookie year and lighting it up.  Why?

I dont think all that highly of Jennings.  too streaky and inconsistent.   I think he was more so a product of the offense and lack of exposure.   he sure looked pedestrian again to me before his injury.. forcing things and making bad decisions..

 

I had no idea he was in the Rider camp tho, lol.. thats funny.

I'd take Jim Barker, if only to scout QBs and receivers.

Just now, rebusrankin said:

I'd take Jim Barker, if only to scout QBs and receivers.

me three.. whomever we have doing it now, hasn't been lighting the world on fire so to speak.. Danny Mac, who I thought would be a very good bird dog for talent, has left us wanting.. him or whoever he has for scouts..

 

Goviea is out doing NFL camp look-sees now tho so who knows, maybe we have 2-3 new guys on the PR who will wow us... (aint holding my breath tho)

 

17 minutes ago, SPuDS said:

I dont think all that highly of Jennings.  too streaky and inconsistent.   I think he was more so a product of the offense and lack of exposure.   he sure looked pedestrian again to me before his injury.. forcing things and making bad decisions..

I had no idea he was in the Rider camp tho, lol.. thats funny.

 

 

If you are streaky and inconsistent and then you throw for 5,226 yards in your second year and first season as a 18 game starter; that is hell of a streak.

Jennings has a very strong accurate arm and when flushed out of the pocket does a better job of continuing to look downfield than most inexperienced young QBs. We have yet to see the best of Jennings as he is still a young QB who is learning the game. And when it comes to football knowledge, the guy is a sponge.

While Wally gets credit for discovering  Jennings, it was HC Jeff Tedford that was the one who fingered Jennings for a TC invite during a spring tryout camp. I can't think of anything else that Tedford did for the Lions that was useful.

 

Edited July 27, 20178 yr by DanoT