SpeedFlex27 Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Mark H. said: She stays because the optics of Trudeau forcing her out would probably be the final nail in the Liberal coffin. The temp in the room must drop by a hundred degrees when she & Philpott enter. She's out to get Trudeau. Maybe have him removed as leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: The temp in the room must drop by a hundred degrees when she & Philpott enter. She's out to get Trudeau. Maybe have him removed as leader. I thought that a few weeks ago - but it’s looking more and more like she’s just an ethical person. If she runs again as an independent, her constituents bloody well better vote her back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, Mark H. said: I thought that a few weeks ago - but it’s looking more and more like she’s just an ethical person. If she runs again as an independent, her constituents bloody well better vote her back in. No doubt she gets back in. If she's kicked out of caucus it'll be interesting to see what happens to Trudeau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 Funny, you'd think an aboriginal woman taking on her white male superiors in a white male dominated profession would be pure gold to these people....and not the boat rocking rat they're trying to paint her as. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Zontar said: Funny, you'd think an aboriginal woman taking on her white male superiors in a white male dominated profession would be pure gold to these people....and not the boat rocking rat they're trying to paint her as. Forget the 100,000 jobs lost in Alberta but Trudeau is an MP from Quebec FIRST & the 9,000 SNC Lavalin jobs are sacred & MUST BE SAVED so his re-electon will be guaranteed. Nothing else matters. No one else matters. Quebec is such a repugnant & corrupt province. Edited March 30, 2019 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Forget the 100,000 jobs lost in Alberta but Trudeau is an MP from Quebec FIRST & the 9,000 SNC Lavalin jobs are sacred & MUST BE SAVED so his re-electon will be guaranteed. Nothing else matters. No one else matters. Quebec is such a repugnant & corrupt province. I partly agree - but how was anyone going to save 100 000 jobs in Alberta? Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mark H. said: I partly agree - but how was anyone going to save 100 000 jobs in Alberta? It's not the saving but a lack of caring. When 2,500 jobs were lost in Oshawa by GM closing the plant down, there's Andrew Scheer playing to the voters in Ontario demanding & getting an emergency sitting of the H of C. Even though there's nothing any politician could have done as GM's corporate mind was already made up. That emergency sitting has never occurred for the energy workers & others in subsidiary industries where people lost their jobs in BC, Alberta & Saskatchewan. Why because the Conservatives know they still have the votes in Western Canada & Trudeau doesn't care as he knows The West is a wilderness for the federal Liberals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mark H. said: I partly agree - but how was anyone going to save 100 000 jobs in Alberta? By not making the effects of a down market worse by making decisions that were clearly against the industry based on ideology and spite ? Wideleft, rebusrankin and SpeedFlex27 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted March 30, 2019 Report Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Forget the 100,000 jobs lost in Alberta... You want to save those 100k oil jobs? Then the price of oil has to go up and who outside of AB wants that? Edited March 30, 2019 by FrostyWinnipeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Zontar said: By not making the effects of a down market worse by making decisions that were clearly against the industry based on ideology and spite ? Absolutely. Trudeau is hell bent on shutting down the energy industry. Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: You want to save those 100k oil jobs? Then the price of oil has to go up and who outside of AB wants that? What are you talking about? Edited March 31, 2019 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 16 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: You want to save those 100k oil jobs? Then the price of oil has to go up and who outside of AB wants that? Well anyone who wants an economy should.... you paying much less in gas with the current price vs. 4 years ago? Here is the thing: the price of oil isn't horrible, but canadian oil is devalued because we can't get our product to market because of lack of pipelines, which at this point are a political issue. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 If Trudeau hadn't started all this social license nonsense as a backdoor way to shut down the industry and wasn't pandering to Quebec on Energy East, its possible that you have two pipelines to ship those resources and access to world pricing which likely saves some of those jobs.Of course, you also have to deal with a system where we now have unelected, accountable to nobody judges making decisions and foreign groups funding protests which nobody is going to deal with and that the majority of people don't think about. SpeedFlex27 and Zontar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) Funny how Frosty says that no one wants higher oil prices at the pump when the federal carbon tax is set to take effect tomorrow. We're all paying more thanks to progressives like Trudeau & Notley & if Frosty thinks it's bad now just wait until 2022. The only ones I see not upset & happy to pay a carbon tax are mostly single, young Millennial progressives that drink the orange or red kool aid of the NDP & Liberals. The low income, the fixed income seniors on CPP or the disabled, young families will all suffer. Governments are all taking their piece of our wallets & don't even apologize for it. While Trudeau flies around the world on private jets taking expensive holidays, going to unnecessary global UN conferences or hanging out with his friends the political elites in Europe & New York. We pay & pay & pay more. Edited March 31, 2019 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Liberals: Women must be in positions of power. To be heard. To be believed. Also Liberals: Throw the rats overboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 Personally, I don’t believe any Canadian government is going to build a pipeline. Harper might have, but not any of the current leaders. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 31, 2019 Report Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mark H. said: Personally, I don’t believe any Canadian government is going to build a pipeline. Harper might have, but not any of the current leaders. There will be hell to pay if it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: There will be hell to pay if it isn't. I wish you were right. If you were, something would have been done by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 39 minutes ago, Mark H. said: I wish you were right. If you were, something would have been done by now. No I think someone is going to have to build one sooner or later. The reality of the situation is that we need that industry to maintain a strong economy. We're a resource producing country, that's about all we can do. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: No I think someone is going to have to build one sooner or later. The reality of the situation is that we need that industry to maintain a strong economy. We're a resource producing country, that's about all we can do. Why the need to be resource producing when Trudeau can tax Canadians to death. Literally & figuratively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 2019-03-30 at 3:55 PM, SpeedFlex27 said: No doubt she gets back in. If she's kicked out of caucus it'll be interesting to see what happens to Trudeau. They gonna give Raybould and Philpott the old left boot, maybe they can catch on with the NDP but I doubt it, they're toxic waste. Bye-bye. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-caucus-wilson-raybould-philpott-1.5079404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 22 hours ago, Mark H. said: Personally, I don’t believe any Canadian government is going to build a pipeline. Harper might have, but not any of the current leaders. Narrator: He didn't. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 22 hours ago, Zontar said: Liberals: Women must be in positions of power. To be heard. To be believed. Also Liberals: Throw the rats overboard. Also Liberals: 17 current female cabinet ministers. 17 men. Conservatives at dissolution in 2015: 11 female cabinet ministers. 24 men. So at least one of the parties walks the walk and doesn't prorogue parliament to avoid scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wideleft said: Also Liberals: 17 current female cabinet ministers. 17 men. Conservatives at dissolution in 2015: 11 female cabinet ministers. 24 men. So at least one of the parties walks the walk and doesn't prorogue parliament to avoid scrutiny. Liberals: Without drastic immediate action our climate will be doomed within a decade. Also Liberals. 5 cents more for gas? Pfft relax it's nothing..you want notice it. Edited April 1, 2019 by Zontar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Wideleft said: Also Liberals: 17 current female cabinet ministers. 17 men. Conservatives at dissolution in 2015: 11 female cabinet ministers. 24 men. So at least one of the parties walks the walk and doesn't prorogue parliament to avoid scrutiny. No, they just lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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