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At this point, in trying to get any kind of a "win" the Republican "leadership"  Trump, Pence, O'Connell along with the ole Tea baggers like Rand Paul.....are pretty busy at work.   Belittling, t

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11 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Let the 'I did what I could' tours begin.

Dr. Birx is on her absolution tour. She has said that had Trump and his administration responded appropriately, the US death toll from COVID would not be the 550,000 it is now, but close to 100,000. That means the GOP under Trump has the deaths of 450,000 on their hands and are untroubled by it. Sad.

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3 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Dr. Birx is on her absolution tour. She has said that had Trump and his administration responded appropriately, the US death toll from COVID would not be the 550,000 it is now, but close to 100,000. That means the GOP under Trump has the deaths of 450,000 on their hands and are untroubled by it. Sad.

 Dr. Birx the person who went on tv and said that Dr. Trump took in, absorbed and understood all the data and everything they were telling him, the same Dr. Birx who at a press conference just sat there when Trump was telling people to inject bleach or shove a uv bulb up their arse, and now Dr. Birx who is telling anyone that will listen that she have some terrible and threatening phone calls from the mob boss.

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3 hours ago, bustamente said:

 Dr. Birx the person who went on tv and said that Dr. Trump took in, absorbed and understood all the data and everything they were telling him, the same Dr. Birx who at a press conference just sat there when Trump was telling people to inject bleach or shove a uv bulb up their arse, and now Dr. Birx who is telling anyone that will listen that she have some terrible and threatening phone calls from the mob boss.

Just add her to the list of Bolton, Scaramucci, Cohen, Sondland, Mattis, Tillerson, Kelly, Sessions, Comey, etc. who happily stayed quiet and did the President’s bidding or at least muted their criticism until after they got fired, and then only spoke out when it was too late to generate any meaningful change, and was usually only an attempt at self-promotion or rehabilitation rather than for the good of the country. Not sure what dangerous power Trump held over them to keep their silence and buy their complicity? Even Vindman only suffered a non-promotion, and Trump’s bullying was so transparent that it’s hard to imagine Vindman’s reputation would be so sullied by an attack from Trump that it would make him a pariah to the rest of the thinking world. 
 

There is nothing redemptive about this 24th hour atonement. 

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9 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Not sure what dangerous power Trump held over them t

Isn't  vengeance one of Trump's most important values? one of the few that he has?

So ive read anyway, important part of his mafia, criminal gang approach. punish the disloyal.

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10 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

 Not sure what dangerous power Trump held over them to keep their silence and buy their complicity?

The bullying and harassment from him, his followers and the GOP TV sites, like Fox, is unrelenting. 

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But unlike a real mob boss who could have you killed for crossing him, what real life-altering threat would Trump be to a non-political person who is not in line to get re-elected? Birx could have spoken out, and it’s not like she would never get a medical job again. The way to combat loud bullies like Trump is to stand up to them, because their phone power display masks insecurity and weakness at its heart. 

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19 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

But unlike a real mob boss who could have you killed for crossing him, what real life-altering threat would Trump be to a non-political person who is not in line to get re-elected? Birx could have spoken out, and it’s not like she would never get a medical job again. The way to combat loud bullies like Trump is to stand up to them, because their phone power display masks insecurity and weakness at its heart. 

Mental health, would be one. 

The GOP mob does allow their followers to use violence as a means of achieving their ends. Capital Riot, 5 people died, Charlottesville, etc.  There are endless examples of when Fox/Nexmax/et al have verbally abused people that have led to their followers using violence against them. 

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Here's the ridiculous reason  the MyPillow guy thinks 'Trump will be back in office in August'
   
MyPillow founder and conspiracy theorist Mike Lindell appeared on former top Trump White House advisor Steve Bannon's streaming TV show promising he has information that will convince the U.S. Supreme Court to invalidate the 2020 presidential election and return Donald Trump to the Oval Office.

"What I'm talking about Steve is what I've been doing since January," Lindell said on Real America's Voice. "All the evidence I have – everything is going to go before the Supreme Court and the election of 2020 is going bye-bye."

"It was an attack by other countries, communism coming in, I don't know what they're going to do after they pull it down but –" Lindell rambled.

"Hang on," Bannon pleaded repeatedly, but Lindell kept going.

"Donald Trump will be back in office in August," he declared.

Here's the ridiculous reason  the MyPillow guy thinks 'Trump will be back in office in August' - Alternet.org

Right-wing donors terrified by conservative support for bill to prevent billionaires from buying elections: leaked recording
   
A newly surfaced recording shows a senior adviser to Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell conspiring with the Koch brothers' network and other conservative groups to torpedo sweeping voting rights legislation.

The Jan. 8 recording obtained by The New Yorker reveals leading conservative activists are alarmed by public support for House Resolution 1 and Senate Bill 1, commonly known as the For The People Act, and they privately admitted they had no effective way to counter the argument that billionaires should be able to buy elections.

"When presented with a very neutral description" of the bill, "people were generally supportive," Kyle McKenzie, the research director for the Koch-run advocacy group Stand Together. "The most worrisome part . . . is that conservatives were actually as supportive as the general public was when they read the neutral description."

"There's a large, very large, chunk of conservatives who are supportive of these types of efforts," he added.

The election reform bill, which would ban large, anonymous political donations, enjoys broad public support, and McKenzie told participants that Senate Republicans would need to use "under-the-dome" legislative tactics to stop the bill because generally everyone but them agreed billionaires should not be able to buy elections behind the scenes.

"Unfortunately, we've found that that is a winning message, for both the general public and also conservatives," McKenzie said.

Right-wing donors terrified by conservative support for bill to prevent billionaires from buying elections: leaked recording - Alternet.org

The Koch-funded group had spent a lot of money to find persuasive arguments against the bill, but found that even claiming it would allow Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) to hold Trump administration officials accountable wasn't particularly effective.

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Ammon Bundy has amassed an army of over 50,000 as he looks for his next battle in a religious war
   
Ammon Bundy, right-wing malcontent behind the 2016 armed takeover of Oregon's Malheur Wildlife Refuge and now a western anti-mask movement, believes he's doing God's work.

Coming from a long line of religiously inspired men who have been "called" to defend the US Constitution, Bundy has varied in his focus, from rebelling against public land ranching regulations to protesting COVID-19 safety protocols. But in his view, these are all forms of government tyranny and affronts to constitutional rights. Arrested for the fourth time on March 15, 2021, Bundy was taken into custody for failing to appear at his hearing on past trespassing charges. Because he refused to wear a mask into the courtroom, thereby missing his trial, he was apprehended outside amid of a throng of other protesters.

Bundy's crusade has been a long time in the making, but in the last year he successfully established a coalition of supporters that is broad, diverse, and a serious threat to federal law. His group is called the People's Rights Network. Like the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, it includes members who see the current government as a threat to perceived rights and are committed to defend their ideas of personal liberty, by force if necessary.

So what has taken Ammon Bundy, who first came to prominence during the 2014 armed standoff in Nevada over his father's unpaid grazing fees and trespassing cattle, into a life of an anti-government militant? The answer is a libertarian worldview and his take on Mormonism. Bundy's ideology parallels the thinking of certain leaders in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, who've had a history of government cynicism. He also shares with them a tradition of theo-constitutionalism--venerating the Constitution as a sacred document. The paradox here is that Bundy believes he is upholding the Constitution and fulfilling his religious duties in his acts of lawlessness.

Ammon Bundy has amassed an army of over 50,000 as he looks for his next battle in a religious war - Alternet.org

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Racist McBigot here, using racism to prove there is no racism... <insert Chef's Kiss>

 

 

 

No wonder he his the white supremacists model. 

 

This a very good take away- "because they (stormfront founder) feel he is making the white nationalist talking points better then they have." 

 

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3 hours ago, Tracker said:

o what has taken Ammon Bundy, who first came to prominence during the 2014 armed standoff in Nevada over his father's unpaid grazing fees and trespassing cattle, into a life of an anti-government militant

 

ammon bundy and his dad are grifters who wont pay the very low grazing fees for using public land to feed their cattle.

they have not paid for decades, and to this point, are being allowed to carry on without penalty. the malheur invasion was to support an area rancher who was convicted for arson, and told them to get lost.

 

first grade a holes.not even respected by most ranchers is my understanding.

malheur occupation was disgusting. one follower died in a shootout with police. real idiots.

I followed it at the time, and was a bit surprised when ammon was acquitted.

oregon is facked outside of portland.

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4 hours ago, Tracker said:

A newly surfaced recording shows a senior adviser to Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell conspiring with the Koch brothers' network and other conservative groups to torpedo sweeping voting rights legislation.

related... do not kno if  Kenney is aware

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"In a report released earlier this month, the left-leaning U.S. Center for American Progress reported that the Koch brothers, owners of Koch Industries and a favourite target of the American left, had donated $373,721 in total to the Fraser Institute, arguably Canada’s most prominent right-wing think tank and an official charity registered with the Canada Revenue Agency.

The Vancouver Observer reported Wednesday that that number may be somewhat higher. According to their research, the Koch brothers had donated nearly $500,000 to the Fraser Institute between 2008 and 2010.

This is something you wouldn’t discover reading the Fraser Institute’s annual reports,” the Exiled blog reported. “They decline to list the names of any of their funders.”"

huffington post

 

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6 hours ago, JCon said:

Mental health, would be one. 

The GOP mob does allow their followers to use violence as a means of achieving their ends. Capital Riot, 5 people died, Charlottesville, etc.  There are endless examples of when Fox/Nexmax/et al have verbally abused people that have led to their followers using violence against them. 

I get your point, just hard to accept that Trump has that kind of power. Fauci is still plugging along. And his followers are just plain crazy. Lots of noise but I don’t see physical threats coming from him. 

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55 minutes ago, Mark F said:

related... do not kno if  Kenney is aware

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"In a report released earlier this month, the left-leaning U.S. Center for American Progress reported that the Koch brothers, owners of Koch Industries and a favourite target of the American left, had donated $373,721 in total to the Fraser Institute, arguably Canada’s most prominent right-wing think tank and an official charity registered with the Canada Revenue Agency.

The Vancouver Observer reported Wednesday that that number may be somewhat higher. According to their research, the Koch brothers had donated nearly $500,000 to the Fraser Institute between 2008 and 2010.

This is something you wouldn’t discover reading the Fraser Institute’s annual reports,” the Exiled blog reported. “They decline to list the names of any of their funders.”"

huffington post

 

Do you think that Kenny and O'Toole want to know this sort of thing? "Plausible deniability" and all that.

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Trump to be deposed in the Summer Zervos case.

 

By Jonathan Stempel

NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York state's highest court on Tuesday cleared the way for a former contestant on "The Apprentice" to sue Donald Trump for defamation, after the former U.S. president called her a liar for accusing him of sexual assault.

Trump had argued before leaving the White House on Jan. 20 that Summer Zervos could not pursue her case because a sitting president could not be sued, but the state Court of Appeals said in a brief order that "the issues presented have become moot."

A lawyer for Trump did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Zervos' lawyers did not immediately respond to similar requests.

The order likely means Zervos' case will return to a Manhattan trial court, and give her lawyers an opportunity to question Trump under oath.

Zervos came forward during the 2016 presidential campaign with accusations that Trump subjected her to unwanted kissing and groping after she sought career advice in 2007, two years after her appearance on his reality television show.

 

She sued Trump in January 2017 after he branded such allegations by women "lies" and retweeted a post calling Zervos' claims a "hoax."

Zervos has been seeking a retraction or an apology, plus compensatory damages and punitive damages.

Trump has denied Zervos' claims, and called her case politically motivated.

Former Elle magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll is also suing Trump for defamation, after he denied having raped her in the Bergdorf Goodman department store in Manhattan in the mid-1990s.

Trump has also denied claims by several other women of improper sexual conduct.

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13 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Trump to be deposed in the Summer Zervos case.

 

By Jonathan Stempel

NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York state's highest court on Tuesday cleared the way for a former contestant on "The Apprentice" to sue Donald Trump for defamation, after the former U.S. president called her a liar for accusing him of sexual assault.

Trump had argued before leaving the White House on Jan. 20 that Summer Zervos could not pursue her case because a sitting president could not be sued, but the state Court of Appeals said in a brief order that "the issues presented have become moot."

A lawyer for Trump did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Zervos' lawyers did not immediately respond to similar requests.

The order likely means Zervos' case will return to a Manhattan trial court, and give her lawyers an opportunity to question Trump under oath.

Zervos came forward during the 2016 presidential campaign with accusations that Trump subjected her to unwanted kissing and groping after she sought career advice in 2007, two years after her appearance on his reality television show.

 

She sued Trump in January 2017 after he branded such allegations by women "lies" and retweeted a post calling Zervos' claims a "hoax."

Zervos has been seeking a retraction or an apology, plus compensatory damages and punitive damages. Trump has denied Zervos' claims, and called her case politically motivated.

Former Elle magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll is also suing Trump for defamation, after he denied having raped her in the Bergdorf Goodman department store in Manhattan in the mid-1990s.  Trump has also denied claims by several other women of improper sexual conduct.

And so it begins- the inexorable weight of the American judicial system turning against Trump at last. He has the money to weather the civil cases and even pay off the plaintiffs, but each successful lawsuit chips away at his self-image of the untouchable "genius" who is anointed by fate to ride roughshod over anyone who dares to oppose him in any measure. He will always have his core of fanatics who will support him regardless of proof, choosing the willing suspension of belief over sanity, but that will dwindle over time.

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in any legal action with Trump, proving his complete lack  of  credibilty is a  slam dunk.

so any lawsuit where  its trumps word v. plaintiff's word,  should be easy win, aside from barrage of legal stalling by him.

argument..... trump cant get a fair trial, since he is a notorious liar. 😂

 

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Can you imagine Trump being deposed

Lawyer: Mr. Trump have you ever had any contact with the plaintiff

Trump: First that's President to you and you know people tell me I am the greatest President in the history of the United States

Lawyer: You didn't answer the question

Trump: You welcome for the vaccine, can I go now

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7 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Gas Pedal Gaetz under investigation by the DOJ for having a sexual relationship with a 17 year old girl, probably started drinking even earlier today

 

When I first saw this:

 

 

I was like, "That's curious..."

 

then I saw this:

 

 

And now it make total sense... 

 

Huh, who would have thought- pizza-gaetz.

-I'll show myself out....

 

I am not even surprised by this... Reading what he's being charged with... Gaetz would have been one of my top three guesses....

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