do or die Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) 2013 .... Trump talking about Obama's possible strikes in Syria after Assad's initial use of chemical weapons. Quote "What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict?" Quote "The President must get Congressional approval before attacking Syria-big mistake if he does not!" Edited April 7, 2017 by do or die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Don't like Russia's chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 didnt they say just a few days ago that they were working for the removal of Assad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 WWIII.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Some people really do want a third world war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Does the President not have power to launch these types is military operations? Or can it only be those that represent a clear and present danger to the national security of the US and thus this does not apply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 52 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Does the President not have power to launch these types is military operations? Or can it only be those that represent a clear and present danger to the national security of the US and thus this does not apply? So is the use of chemical weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Definitely both are illegal. Trump, under American, and International Law. All of the unilateral acts of war, by Russia, China, Israel, Pakistan, are illegal, without authorization of the UN. That's why Bush and Blair tried so hard to get a UN authorization for the invasion of Iraq. And did not get one. Nobody in authority seems to care much though. Till they do. Edited April 7, 2017 by Mark F The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) Some are saying the missile strike was a PR sham. The fact that the base has planes taking off after the air strike would seem to indicate they didn't do the greatest job putting the base out of commission. Edited April 9, 2017 by Jacquie Mark F and Wanna-B-Fanboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jacquie said: Some are saying the missle strike was a PR sham. The fact that the base has planes taking off after the air strike would seem to indicate they didn't do the greatest job putting the base out of commission. Yup, as soon as I heard 59 tomahawk missiles flew... saw the "damage" to the airfield they were showing on the news, I knew it was a PR Sham. This just makes it more certain. Edited April 8, 2017 by wanna-b-fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 PR sham is hard not to think. Especially considering Trump denounced Obama for threatening this exact same thing. And when Obama went to congress, 100 Republicans that refused to give him authority for military action now support Trump. Its all politics. Again, I've said this before, people who identify with a party and will blindly support the words and deeds and representatives of that party no matter what, are clueless. Anyway...you have people saying 'now Trump is President" since he launched a strike. Its all a sham. People saying "see, he went against Russia so that means there was no collusion". He WARNED Russia of the airstrike ahead of time (after lambasting Obama for a policy of providing lead time before strikes) and they obviously warned Syria. And the strike did little to no damage. So what was the point? I think we know. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Apparently Trump owns stock in the company that makes Tomahawk missiles. They used $90m worth in the air strikes that destroyed nothing and those missiles will now have to be replaced. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpeedFlex27 Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 On 4/7/2017 at 11:28 AM, The Unknown Poster said: WWIII.... No, that's being an alarmist. This won't trigger a world war. Russia knows they'll be obliterated as do the Americans so there's a lot of rhetoric & bluster going on. Now that North Korean son of a *****? Yeah, that's a bad situation. If he actually launches a nuclear missile to attack Japan or even the Western US. That's what we should be truly worried about. He could trigger a world war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: It's good to be the King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 3 hours ago, bustamente said: It's good to be the King I would put a Ash Williams' "Hail to the King, Baby" meme here, but Trump is not deserving.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) Quote Looking back at President Obama’s legacy, the Council on Foreign Relation’s Micah Zenko added up the defense department’s data on airstrikes and made a startling revelation: in 2016 alone, the Obama administration dropped at least 26,171 bombs. This means that every day last year, the US military blasted combatants or civilians overseas with 72 bombs; that’s three bombs every hour, 24 hours a day. While most of these air attacks were in Syria and Iraq, US bombs also rained down on people in Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. That’s seven majority-Muslim countries. In 2016, US special operators could be found in 70% of the world’s nations, 138 countries Yemen is the poorest country in the world. Somalia not much better. The poorer the country, the more likely the USA will bomb you. Edited April 10, 2017 by Mark F Fatty Liver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Another good one from Pat Byrnes of The New Yorker: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 As far as Trump's absurd Presidential expenses......why would anyone be surprised? The only honest thing, the Don said during the election campaign....was that he "knows how to work the system." So, Trump has graduated from merely ripping off students and small creditors......to now milking the entire American taxpaying public. Bigly. btw...turns out that Trump's "blind trust" is not so blind after all. The White House admitted that Trump has a revocable, not blind trust - which is administrated by his eldest son, Donald JR. and the Trump Organization's Chief Financial Officer. No conflict of interest there, right? Trump said he would be the hardest working President ever. He is working it, alright..... Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 58 minutes ago, do or die said: As far as Trump's absurd Presidential expenses......why would anyone be surprised? The only honest thing, the Don said during the election campaign....was that he "knows how to work the system." So, Trump has graduated from merely ripping off students and small creditors......to now milking the entire American taxpaying public. Bigly. btw...turns out that Trump's "blind trust" is not so blind after all. The White House admitted that Trump has a revocable, not blind trust - which is administrated by his eldest son, Donald JR. and the Trump Organization's Chief Financial Officer. No conflict of interest there, right? Trump said he would be the hardest working President ever. He is working it, alright..... Yes, he can also withdraw cash from his trust whenever he wants to. Its basically not a trust at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Looking forward to Trump launching 59 missiles into Moscow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 56 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Looking forward to Trump launching 59 missiles into Moscow Still waiting for the investigation. Or some actual evidence. Or some proof of some sort. oh right, don't need those do we. But who would ever doubt Trump? He's been up front and honest about everything so far. Getting nervous yet? Edited April 10, 2017 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mark F said: Still waiting for the investigation. oh right, don't need those do we. Or maybe see if Colin Powell will come out of retirement to explain things. Well we were told that we don't need to see the investigation into Russia hacking the election, and everyone was okay with just believing the conclusions. But this is different, because we don't like the conclusions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Atomic said: Well we were told that we don't need to see the investigation into Russia hacking the election, and everyone was okay with just believing the conclusions. But this is different, because we don't like the conclusions? You're not sure of the difference between multiple intelligence agencies stating that Russia meddled in the election and contradictory reports of Syrian chemical weapons use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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