bustamente Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Republicans freely admit that Trump did what he was impeached for they don't care and don't want witnesses, they need to be reminded about this trial in the future, as for the Democrats this trial was never going to remove Trump from office they need to get back on the campaign trail to win the Presidency, but more importantly they need to really go after the Senate. Edited January 31, 2020 by bustamente Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Alexander is voting against witnesses. That will lead to a quick acquittal. No surprise there. We’ll see how this cover up plays in the election. One thing seems clear. This goes beyond trump. The GOP is rotten. How many knew...how many have been compromised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Pervy Dershy marking the rounds backtracking about what he said on the Senate floor........................well of course he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, bustamente said: Pervy Dershy marking the rounds backtracking about what he said on the Senate floor........................well of course he is Trying to have his cake and eat it too. Tried that at epsteins place didn’t he? bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 If it’s a tie vote it will be real interesting what chief Roberts does. I tend to think he’d decline to break a tie since it won’t matter anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Trumps WH lawyer was in the room. He’s a material witness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Rubio: Impeachable actions don't necessarily mean a president should be removed: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/480912-rubio-impeachable-actions-dont-necessarily-mean-a-president-should-be-removed Listening to this stuff......is like trying to pour gin into a glass, with a hole in the bottom The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, bustamente said: Yeah... good thing the ******* GOP defeated the motion to call witnesses. *****, the lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Yeah... good thing the ******* GOP defeated the motion to call witnesses. *****, the lot of them. Remember this date if the Democrats can take the Senate come election time, Bolton's info will drip out and Parnas seems to have the goods on a lot of people, that will also drip out. People need to worry that Trump will do absolutely anything and everything to stay President and it's becomes apparent that his enablers need to keep him there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 Whatever morals the GOP claimed to have had have been completely abandoned. Trumps' attorneys have given thousands of dollars to the re-election campaigns of all the GOP senators who sat in judgement on Trump, and they have taken the position that the abuse of power never happened, that it was legal, and finally, that it didn't matter. According to constitutional scholars, this is a massive step towards a fascist dictatorship in the US. Now that Trump has been given absolution and blanket immunity for any future actions, he will run wild, and so will his followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tracker said: Whatever morals the GOP claimed to have had have been completely abandoned. Trumps' attorneys have given thousands of dollars to the re-election campaigns of all the GOP senators who sat in judgement on Trump, and they have taken the position that the abuse of power never happened, that it was legal, and finally, that it didn't matter. According to constitutional scholars, this is a massive step towards a fascist dictatorship in the US. Now that Trump has been given absolution and blanket immunity for any future actions, he will run wild, and so will his followers. Can't wait till Trump tries to have people that oppose him arrested, you know his little pea sized brain has thought about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) There is a very scary precedent here. In the late 50's, two rednecks in Alabama shot and killed two black men for no particular reason. The evidence was absolute and uncontested, and the two miscreants even admitted to the killings in an interview with a magazine, but the jury acquitted them, with no directed verdict or appeal filed. When interviewed, the jury members said there was no doubt that the two accused did the killing but acquitted them because they believed there was nothing wrong with whites killing Negroes. That sort of thinking is rife in much of the US and in the GOP. Edited February 1, 2020 by Tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 As with the Kavanaugh hearing Democrats went full Thelma and Louise. Should have gone with a new team for the trial phase. All they did was alienate centrist republicans with talk of "treason" who were already turned off from the hysterical, over the top rhetoric. Tsk. Had a real shot at prolonging this. Clear pattern of ridiculously bad decisions. As in life revenge and anger can be so self defeating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 There are no centrist republicans. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Zontar said: As with the Kavanaugh hearing Democrats went full Thelma and Louise. Should have gone with a new team for the trial phase. All they did was alienate centrist republicans with talk of "treason" who were already turned off from the hysterical, over the top rhetoric. Tsk. Had a real shot at prolonging this. Clear pattern of ridiculously bad decisions. As in life revenge and anger can be so self defeating. None of this is true. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: There are no centrist republicans. The fact two voted for witnesses is shocking enough. But If there is a clean member among the GOP it’s likely Mitt. He was beat up badly by trump too. Not shocking unfortunately is GOP taking their chances on no witnesses. I mean, they don’t have much of a choice lest a bunch of them end up implicated. Hopefully the electorate remembers this. But you can never count out the Dems to self destruct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: The fact two voted for witnesses is shocking enough. But If there is a clean member among the GOP it’s likely Mitt. He was beat up badly by trump too. Not shocking unfortunately is GOP taking their chances on no witnesses. I mean, they don’t have much of a choice lest a bunch of them end up implicated. Hopefully the electorate remembers this. But you can never count out the Dems to self destruct. let's be honest, if they didn't know for certain that they were going to shoot this down they would never have allowed anyone to vote outside the party line. It's just tremendously sad that the checks and balances shirked their responsibility and effectively made the US into a dictatorship. For an unhinged moron no less. God willing the voters in the US wake up and vote the assholes out of power and the Democrats grow a set and go on the war path rooting out the systemic corruption and jailing all these traitors. Wanna-B-Fanboy, The Unknown Poster and bustamente 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 8 hours ago, 17to85 said: There are no centrist republicans. "Had they waited a couple of months they could have got Bolton s testimony, other witnesses and key court orders. This was a rush to failure. History will look back at their timing as a baffling mystery" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Zontar said: "Had they waited a couple of months they could have got Bolton s testimony, other witnesses and key court orders. This was a rush to failure. History will look back at their timing as a baffling mystery" Citation needed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Citation needed.... Jonathon Turley. Legal scholar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, Zontar said: Jonathon Turley. Legal scholar. Which Turley? 1998 Turley or 2020 Turley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 31 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Which Turley? 1998 Turley or 2020 Turley? Never heard of the guy to be honest. Just thought it was interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 In news that should surprise no one, at a Bernie rally a staffer led the crowd in anti-Hillary chants. Bernie really is a first rate a$$hole. Only left wing delusions would embrace a guy who is 1000 years old and had a heart attack during the campaign as its nominee. The shame is that it’s over shadowed Warren, a legitimate progressive option who could whoop Trump. Bernie should have dropped out after his heart attack. Now it will be Biden who should beat trump handily but he’s got the stink of Burisma and will face attacks from all sides. He’s also not going to choose Warren as his running mate due to age so the progressives are going to be hot. The trump trial went exactly as expected. Now Dems have to use it to their advantage and punish the alt right not each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 1, 2020 Report Share Posted February 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, Zontar said: Never heard of the guy to be honest. Just thought it was interesting It is interesting, but when you unpack it... it's like most of his ****- partisan crap of a strawman argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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