Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

Trump reportedly contacted Pelosi begging to work something out. Hilarious. That man is such a pathetic sack of ****. Hope he gets sent to prison when this is all done. 

54 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Trump reportedly contacted Pelosi begging to work something out. Hilarious. That man is such a pathetic sack of ****. Hope he gets sent to prison when this is all done. 

Prison would a good start.

I would hope there is enough crominal evidence against the trump org to warrant involuntary dissolution of their corporate empire... then we would be getting somewhere... like a real life Schitt's Creek where the patriarch is left in prison to die- that is reality TV that I would watch.... 

That transcript is bad.  He’s not toast yet but he’s getting there. 

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

That transcript is bad.  He’s not toast yet but he’s getting there. 

Agreed. I think that transcript and the whistle blowers testimony might move the needle a bit... 

My hope is that with impeachment, they get better investigative powers and more teeth to actually holds the stonewalled accountable.

 

We'll see though... gotta temper those expectations... The Mueller report was damning as hell and barely moved the needle.

I feel this will be making a big come back.

 

 

Regardless of how this shakes out in terms of trump being held to actual accountability and what the voters do in 2020- The Democratic Party did it's constitutionally mandated job and defended the constitution. History will show that they are on the right side of this.

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Agreed. I think that transcript and the whistle blowers testimony might move the needle a bit... 

My hope is that with impeachment, they get better investigative powers and more teeth to actually holds the stonewalled accountable.

 

We'll see though... gotta temper those expectations... The Mueller report was damning as hell and barely moved the needle.

Saw an interesting take on this, that the Mueller report was too complicated to resonate with a lot of people.  Whereas, this issue is easier to understand.  Its like a Sopranos-style mob shake down.  

13 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Regardless of how this shakes out in terms of trump being held to actual accountability and what the voters do in 2020- The Democratic Party did it's constitutionally mandated job and defended the constitution. History will show that they are on the right side of this.

Yup.  And the idea that it could hurt Dems in terms of the public having little appetite for an impeachment doesnt mitigate the oath they took and their responsibility to the constitution.  

13 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Saw an interesting take on this, that the Mueller report was too complicated to resonate with a lot of people.  Whereas, this issue is easier to understand.  Its like a Sopranos-style mob shake down.  

Also... The Barr summary was very effective. There is no Barr summary for the Ukrainian shake down.

11 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Also... The Barr summary was very effective. There is no Barr summary for the Ukrainian shake down.

There might end up being a Barr indictment.  

22 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

There might end up being a Barr indictment.  

God I hope so... 

 

There should be a whole lot more of these trump enablers that get crushed by justice.

Edited September 25, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

Bad as it is.....they released this "transcript" (which is not an verbatim account) in order to shape the public narrative ahead of the whistleblower report.  Shades of Barr, with his "summary" of the Mueller Report. 

Barr and Uncle Rudy, are also in the cross hairs, as Trump is talking to the Pres, about working this deal, through both of them.  His personal lawyer, and the Attorney General of the United States

This business stinks to high heaven.  Which in retrospect..... is merely the usual Trump standard.

 

Rudy was set up as the patsy.

The WH just sent it's Ukraine talking points to the Democratic Party in Congress. I am not even making this **** up:

 

 

Edited September 25, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

35 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Rudy was set up as the patsy.

Like I've said before, the one upside of the Trump administration is watching the worst people in the world be abused by the worst boss in the world.

Edited September 25, 20196 yr by johnzo

Acting DNI Maguire to testify before Congress, wonder what he has to say, as for Barr and Bug Eyes they are now witnesses to this matter.

 

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

That is very telling... 

23 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

That is very telling... 

My guess is that the post-Presidency Trump will settle into the role of a GOP influencer / kingmaker, taking money, and making tweets and rally appearances.  Fox has been grooming the GOP base for him for a generation; those GOP voters are in the tank for him for good.

Career-minded Republicans are right to be wary of publicly defying him.  Ben Sasse, who was all humphy and nevertrumpy at one point, bent the knee to get a recent endorsement tweet.  Lyin' Ted Cruz started licking the trump boot when Beto gave him a scare in Texas in 2018.  Lindsay Graham, once John McCain's best friend, now just another loudmouth with Trump's hand up his ass.

So the transcript is actually just WH talking points, and the acting DNI might be getting cold feet serving the master.

The people of the US, need 1999 Lindsey Graham:

 

 

7 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

The people of the US, need 1999 Lindsey Graham:

 

 

Well, with that guy.... honour and integrity, left town some time ago.   Just another Trump flunky, these days.  

1 minute ago, do or die said:

Well, with that guy.... honour and integrity, left town some time ago. 

Yeah, when the Democratic President left office, me thinks. 

During all this... I was curious as to the state of the WH press briefing.. apparently its been over 200 days since the last one.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/462587-white-house-press-secretary-defends-lack-of-daily-briefings-trump-is-the-most

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/stephanie-grisham-vs-media

 

New press secretary hasn't even given a WH press briefing... 

Do people actually listen to Trump, what an idiot, sure likes to hear himself talk and constantly repeats the same stuff over and over 

1 minute ago, bustamente said:

Do people actually listen to Trump, what an idiot, sure likes to hear himself talk and constantly repeats the same stuff over and over 

If you ever have the chance, take a transcript of one of his ramblings- copy and past it into a text to speech app- that **** is crazy funny.