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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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22 minutes ago, bustamente said:

If Warren does win the nominations I don't think that Trump will be circling behind her like a lech like he did to Clinton during the debates, she would probably decked him, and that would be must see tv.

I think if she wins the nomination, she might very well be the first politician to say" Shut the **** up Donnie" to his face.

Edited by wanna-b-fanboy

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

She so many shades of AWESOME

"more tougher" 😂, what a dope.   

That guy is nervous as a cat.....the banking class are clearly very afraid of her. She advocated prosecution, when Obama was calling them "savvy businessman" 2008.

 

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off topic, but Obama.... he was fake news

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His biggest mistake—and in my view anyway, a mistake that undermined his presidency—was to turn to the very people who had deregulated Wall Street as his senior economic team. These were the protégés of former Citibank and Goldman chieftain and top Clinton economic official Robert Rubin, many of whom had led the parade to let Wall Street run wild.

These included Lawrence Summers, Timothy Geithner and Ben Bernanke (a carryover Bush appointee reappointed by Obama), but also other denizens of the Wall Street-Washington revolving door who not only supported deregulation but also austerity, and deregulation disguised as trade, such as Peter Orszag and Michael Froman.

 

 

Trumpy just pardoned Conrad Black.

4 hours ago, bustamente said:

If Warren does win the nominations I don't think that Trump will be circling behind her like a lech like he did to Clinton during the debates, she would probably decked him, and that would be must see tv.

hey if anyone does that, that would actually be worth paying for Pay Per View...man I really do miss that PPV Info channel, all we have left is the memorable Ident (I tried looking but nothing with the voice over or the music with the listings)

 

Black: self-entitled, arrogant and felonious 1%er, right winger, with an ego the size of a ship.....was found guilty of mail fraud and obstruction in 2007 in a ploy to swindle millions of dollars from investors in his media company. 
Add to that the fawning book and a number of articles, in the G&M, sucking the blacking from Trump's boots, last couple of years.

Makes perfect sense.  Birds of a feather.

Edited by do or die

 

Maya makes an excellent point...

Don jr is a private citizen.

Now private citizens are allowed to stonewall and dictate the terms on which they can appear to congress... 

It's worth a listen.

No Russia, No Mueller- just counter intel investigation. people should be very concerned about what is happening. A sitting Senator is telling a citizen to ignore a subpoena and stone wall congress... and hey that's ok... dafuq?

 

Democrats are in quite the pickle here... politically, it's hazardous to impeach- but in order to uphold the constitution, they HAVE to. 

 

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Well how about that...  witness tampering?

 

 

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) confronted a CEO Thursday for pricing a drug designed to reduce the risk of HIV transmission at $8 in Australia but over $1,500 in the U.S.

"You're the CEO of Gilead. Is it true that Gilead made $3 billion in profits from Truvada in 2018?" Ocasio-Cortez asked Gilead CEO Daniel O'Day.

"$3 billion in revenue," he clarified.

"The current list price is $2,000 a month in the United States, correct?" she asked, referring to Truvada.

"It's $1,780 in the United States," O'Day responded.

"Why is it $8 in Australia?" Ocasio-Cortez countered.

"Truvada still has patent protection in the United States and in the rest of the world it is generic," O'Day explained.

"I think it's important here that we notice that we the public, we the people, developed this drug. We paid for this drug, we lead and developed all the patents to create Prep and then that patent has been privatized despite the fact that the patent is owned by the public, who refused to enforce it," Ocasio-Cortez said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/444091-ocasio-cortez-confronts-ceo-for-nearly-2k-price-tag-on-drug-that-costs-8-in

 

Turtle may say "case closed" but it's far from that, the Flynn story today proves that.

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1 hour ago, bustamente said:

Turtle may say "case closed" but it's far from that, the Flynn story today proves that.

What's crazy... is the fact the sanctions on Russian oligarch Oleg V. Deripaska were lifted this year.

The Owner of Rusal, the Russian aluminium Company.

The same company that is pumping in +$200 million into... the great state of Kentucky.

 

Guess who voted to lift sanctions on the Russian Oligarch? Kentucky’s senators, Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul. Gee.... what the ****... they aren't even trying to hide this corruption. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/16/us/politics/rusal-investment-kentucky.html

26 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Guess who voted to lift sanctions on the Russian Oligarch? Kentucky’s senators, Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul. Gee.... what the ****... they aren't even trying to hide this corruption. 

when no one holds them accountable why hide it?

Just now, 17to85 said:

when no one holds them accountable why hide it?

good point.

Here is a clip of McConnell:

 

17 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Here is a clip of McConnell:

 

 

Here he is hoisted in the air by GOP

 

 

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looks like the US media is on board for an attack on Iran. Heard on the radio last night, about how this was needed. Now CNN.

Rating bump. 

USA is by far the biggest threat to world peace.

Edited by Mark F

30 minutes ago, Mark F said:

looks like the US media is on board for an attack on Iran. Heard on the radio last night, about how this was needed. Now CNN.

Rating bump. 

USA is by far the biggest threat to world peace.

wow. you'd think they would have learned by now...

39 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

wow. you'd think they would have learned by now...

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Need those young people in flag draped caskets to stoke patriotism.

2 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

wow. you'd think they would have learned by now...

Iran has oil?

 

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Iran thing isn't about oil.  It's about the desire to contain if not elimitate Iranian political influence in the region it has through Shia islam.

Unintended consequence of Iraq war was the rise of Shia influence in post war Iraq. Hezbollah ( Shia) presence and influence in South Lebanon has long been a thorn in the side of Israel. Hezbollah is primarily financed and armed by Iran.

US/Israel has long resented Syrian influence in N.Lebanon. They tacitly support Hezbollah in the south as a buffer vs Israel.

For the past 50 years the US/Israel policy has either bought off or flattenend the leading Arab nations. Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Arab N. Africa are all on board.

Syria and Iran (not Arab but influential as previously mentioned ) are the lone holdouts. 

Since the Iranian revolution all US administrations have wanted Iran neutered to varying degrees. For example Obama tried to buy them off with nuclear technology.  Reagan tried to kill them off by arming Iraq. Israel uses assassination of scientific and military leaders.

The real passionate Iran haters were in the Bush 2 administration some of which like Bolton have wormed their way into the Trump orbit.

 

 

 

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