Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

Republican Senators have  found their voices that they lost this morning

Edited September 27, 20187 yr by bustamente

Is Justine being sarcastic or was this a real exchange?

it sounds like Kav was told he has be on the attack and beat down the questions.  He sounds out of his mind.  He’s making fence sitters believe he could be violent when drunk if he’s like this sober 

Well at least we know what he will  bring to the SCOTUS Christmas party

3 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Well at least we know what he will  bring to the SCOTUS Christmas party

misogyny and sexual assault? 

Listening now.  So evasive. So smarmy. 

Hes the 3rd biggest piece of **** in American politics behind Trump and Graham. 

47 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Republican Senators have  found their voices that they lost this morning

Praise the Lord......a miracle!

If a witness in a trial evaded and argued like Kav the judge would order him to knock it off.  If I didn’t know he was a lawyer and judge I’d never guess it.  He’s awful.  

With gop sens defending him from the dais he doesn’t even need to say anything. 

 

He is going to be confirmed......................isn't he

Yup. Trump loved his nasty performance. 

 

25 minutes ago, bustamente said:

He is going to be confirmed......................isn't he

More than likely. The republican party are spineless and morally bankrupt. Party before country.

6 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Yup. Trump loved his nasty performance. 

 

Yeah we already knew Trump picked him cause he was a biased, partisan piece of **** human being. Remember folks, the BEST people for Trump. 

Watching clips now. Such fake anger from Kavanaugh. What a sham hearing. Shameful. 

 

Let’s pretend Kavanaugh is totally innocent. His performance today should preclude him from serving on the SCOTUS. Unabashedly partisan. 

 

You know... I am good with it if the cons vote him on to the SCOTUS. It will be good for the midterms for dems. Mobilize the vote. 

Then later when more of this shot comes to light... there will be an do investigation because... come on, 4 accusers now? Also, he has lied already publicly and on the record. So he will be impeached and removed. It's a lot of unnecessary steps, but it will even out in the end.

15 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

You know... I am good with it if the cons vote him on to the SCOTUS. It will be good for the midterms for dems. Mobilize the vote. 

Then later when more of this shot comes to light... there will be an do investigation because... come on, 4 accusers now? Also, he has lied already publicly and on the record. So he will be impeached and removed. It's a lot of unnecessary steps, but it will even out in the end.

I was thinking the same thing.  Clearly the right thing to do is move on to someone else. 

But if they confirm him, it’s the narrative and battle cry of the Dems in these midterms. 

The opposit might be true for the GOP if they don’t confirm him. They might be wise to sacrifice Kavanaugh to save the senate. 

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Sen. Lindsey Graham soon followed suit, bellowing to Democrats in the room: "This is the most unethical sham since I've been in politics."

No... that would be your feigned righteous indignation for an audience of one- trump. 

One of the most interesting things that was quickly skipped over was when the female attorney hired by the GOP to grill Ford touched on a note in Kavanaugh's calendar dated July 1st. That date and the notation appeared to line up with the events reported by Ford and named Judge as present. As soon as Mitchell pointed out that date and was apparently going to ask Kavanaugh about it, the Republican members of the committee called a halt and fired Mitchell. Hm.....

Just now, Tracker said:

One of the most interesting things that was quickly skipped over was when the female attorney hired by the GOP to grill Ford touched on a note in Kavanaugh's calendar dated July 1st. That date and the notation appeared to line up with the events reported by Ford and named Judge as present. As soon as Mitchell pointed out that date and was apparently going to ask Kavanaugh about it, the Republican members of the committee called a halt and fired Mitchell. Hm.....

Yup. He went drinking with several guys that Dr. Ford said were there. Yet, no questions. 

This process is so morally bankrupt just like the administration. 

Yup that shouldn’t be overlooked.  No way of knowing of July 1 was the date this Happened without an actual investigation but it lined up with everything said so far. 

Kavanaugh’s performance regardless of the allegations should disqualify him.  Period. 

Listening to these senators this morning, they continue to lie and twist the evidence.  They are deathly afraid of s real investigation.  

Clearly some of them have serious issues with women and believe that “boys will be boys” is perfectly reasonable.  

Her problem is she was attacked. And when she reported that attack she was attacked again.  And destroying Kavanaugh’s life actually means he continues working on the second highest court in the US making a lot of money. 

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Yup that shouldn’t be overlooked.  No way of knowing of July 1 was the date this Happened without an actual investigation but it lined up with everything said so far. 

Kavanaugh’s performance regardless of the allegations should disqualify him.  Period. 

Listening to these senators this morning, they continue to lie and twist the evidence.  They are deathly afraid of s real investigation.  

Clearly some of them have serious issues with women and believe that “boys will be boys” is perfectly reasonable.  

Her problem is she was attacked. And when she reported that attack she was attacked again.  And destroying Kavanaugh’s life actually means he continues working on the second highest court in the US making a lot of money. 

There are a lot of pieces at play here. Trump has fully invested himself in Kavanaugh's appointment and, given Trump's abysmal history of having his appointees spectacularly imploding, his ego cannot take yet another disaster wherein his judgement is proven faulty. Moreover, the GOP is still trying to do damage control over the Russia investigation and failing at that as well. Mueller is edging ever closer to proving that Trump has been laundering money for the Russian mob for nearly 20 years. Plus, if Kavanaugh fails at the appointment with three for certain and possibly a fourth woman alleging sexual misconduct on his part, he tenure are a judge will come under examination and trigger a full FBI investigation, so who knows what that will dredge up?

Yesterday afternoon:

Kavanaugh:

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"The American Bar Association has given me their highest rating."

Graham:
 

Cited a letter from the American Bar Association. The organization had given Kavanaugh its highest rating going into his confirmation process, and Graham held this up as proof of his great character
 

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"Here’s my understanding, if you lived a good life people would recognize it. Like the American Bar Association has, the gold standard."

Last nite:

The American Bar Association late Thursday urged the Senate Judiciary Committee to delay the vote to confirm Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh pending a full FBI investigation, according to multiple reports.

In a letter addressed to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley and ranking Democrat Dianne Feinstein, the organization requested the committee hold off on voting until allegations made by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and others can be fully vetted by the FBI.

“We make this request because of the ABA’s respect for the rule of law and due process under law,” the letter read. “The basic principles that underscore the Senate’s constitutional duty of advice and consent on federal judicial nominees require nothing less than a careful examination of the accusations and facts by the FBI.”

Rule of law? Ethical standards? Due process?  This is the Trump spittle licking Senate, we are talking about. Anybody think they are interested in any of that stuff?    

 

 

12 minutes ago, do or die said:

Yesterday afternoon:

Kavanaugh:

Graham:
 

Cited a letter from the American Bar Association. The organization had given Kavanaugh its highest rating going into his confirmation process, and Graham held this up as proof of his great character
 

Last nite:

The American Bar Association late Thursday urged the Senate Judiciary Committee to delay the vote to confirm Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh pending a full FBI investigation, according to multiple reports.

In a letter addressed to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley and ranking Democrat Dianne Feinstein, the organization requested the committee hold off on voting until allegations made by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and others can be fully vetted by the FBI.

“We make this request because of the ABA’s respect for the rule of law and due process under law,” the letter read. “The basic principles that underscore the Senate’s constitutional duty of advice and consent on federal judicial nominees require nothing less than a careful examination of the accusations and facts by the FBI.”

Rule of law? Ethical standards? Due process?  This is the Trump spittle licking Senate, we are talking about. Anybody think they are interested in any of that stuff?    

 

 

It's pretty criminal what these republicans are doing. Morally bankrupt cowards the lot of them are. 

Is Grassley Kavanaugh’s personal attorney? 

And why does he keep lying about the FBI?  

29 minutes ago, Tracker said:

There are a lot of pieces at play here. Trump has fully invested himself in Kavanaugh's appointment and, given Trump's abysmal history of having his appointees spectacularly imploding, his ego cannot take yet another disaster wherein his judgement is proven faulty. Moreover, the GOP is still trying to do damage control over the Russia investigation and failing at that as well. Mueller is edging ever closer to proving that Trump has been laundering money for the Russian mob for nearly 20 years. Plus, if Kavanaugh fails at the appointment with three for certain and possibly a fourth woman alleging sexual misconduct on his part, he tenure are a judge will come under examination and trigger a full FBI investigation, so who knows what that will dredge up?

Trump has found a judge who will protect him when the law comes down on him. Trump needs Kav on SCOTUS.