Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

It should be.......DEFLECTION FROM THE WHITE HOUSE

I have a bad feeling that violence will be a big story during the November mid term elections.

for those who care Arapaio was dead last 

 

Ward and Arpaio are both nut jobs. Arpaio is a  racist murderer. Ward is just POS racist trash. 

**** Arpaio. he still should be in jail, Not running for the Senate. 

I just don't understand what has happened to all the conservatives down south. Where have they gone? I don't even see them fighting for seats anymore. All I see are a bunch of Trumpist nutters. It's so much worse than the tea-baggers before them. 

I know a bunch have abandoned the party, hoping it collapses, to be replaced with a newly refreshed GOP but that can't account for all of them. 

I also realize that not all mid-term elections are being covered and talked about the same, with only the Trumpists getting the attention. 

2 hours ago, JCon said:

I just don't understand what has happened to all the conservatives down south. Where have they gone? I don't even see them fighting for seats anymore. All I see are a bunch of Trumpist nutters. It's so much worse than the tea-baggers before them. 

I know a bunch have abandoned the party, hoping it collapses, to be replaced with a newly refreshed GOP but that can't account for all of them. 

I also realize that not all mid-term elections are being covered and talked about the same, with only the Trumpists getting the attention. 

The crazies took over the republican party. 

3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

The crazies took over the republican party. 

Yes, but there are still true conservatives out there. But where.... 

living life as independents, probably not voting for lack of options. The States really needs to get over their line of thinking that there are only 2 parties. Badly need at least a 3rd option, would keep the fringe on the fringe rather than in power. 

Those that abandon the party should vote democrat en mass. Probably against everything they believe. But it would end the trumping of the GOP pretty fast If both houses went to the Dems and the White House in 2020

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Those that abandon the party should vote democrat en mass. Probably against everything they believe. But it would end the trumping of the GOP pretty fast If both houses went to the Dems and the White House in 2020

There are some Never-Trumpers that I follow on Twitter that are doing just that. Their hope is that the Dems take the House and destroy the mutated-GOP, leaving room for true conservatives to come back. 

That's just a tiny sample size and I would have expected the true conservatives to be out there and much more vocal. Maybe there are not that many true conservatives out there? 

Real conservatives should be Democrats anyway, what the usa needs is an honest to god left of centre party.

1 hour ago, JCon said:

There are some Never-Trumpers that I follow on Twitter that are doing just that. Their hope is that the Dems take the House and destroy the mutated-GOP, leaving room for true conservatives to come back. 

That's just a tiny sample size and I would have expected the true conservatives to be out there and much more vocal. Maybe there are not that many true conservatives out there? 

What is a true conservative?

For that matter, what is a true Democrat?

I always thought voters we mostly Shades of purple. And depending on the platform and leader that would be how they would vote.

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Real conservatives should be Democrats anyway, what the usa needs is an honest to god left of centre party.

The Bernie party... I would love to see that.

14 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

What is a true conservative?

For that matter, what is a true Democrat?

I always thought voters we mostly Shades of purple. And depending on the platform and leader that would be how they would vote.

A true conservative would be someone who believes in small government, small taxes, less intrusion into the economy, including removing barriers to trade. Free market. 

 

I'm not saying a true Republican because I think we're seeing those down south. I think true conservatives have lived with an uneasy partnership with the Republican party for a long time but are now being silenced. 

Edited August 30, 20187 yr by JCon

Libertarians?

 

anyway the good news the economy is awesome. Thank you Donald!  Ummm

 

15 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Real conservatives should be Democrats anyway, what the usa needs is an honest to god left of centre party.

well didn't democrats used to act like the current republicans and republicans act like democrats over 50 years ago?

What a stunning rebuke of the current Presidency delivered by John McCain’s daughter Meghan during his eulogy. Never thought I’d see a funeral used as a place for character assassination against a sitting Commander-in-Chief. Guess McCain didn’t care for the “my heroes don’t get shot down and captured “ jab during the campaign. The times we live in. 

On 2018-09-02 at 8:52 AM, TrueBlue4ever said:

What a stunning rebuke of the current Presidency delivered by John McCain’s daughter Meghan during his eulogy. Never thought I’d see a funeral used as a place for character assassination against a sitting Commander-in-Chief. Guess McCain didn’t care for the “my heroes don’t get shot down and captured “ jab during the campaign. The times we live in. 

Senator McCain's last act as a patriot.  And well thought out as anyone else doing it would be attacked in return but how do you attack the daughter of a hero who just died?  

This Supreme court nomination is going to a ****show.

2 hours ago, bustamente said:

This Supreme court nomination is going to a ****show.

There really is no excuse to ram it through considering the President is an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal crime.

This Bob Woodward book is going to be a eye opener for some and reaffirmation to others

4 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

There really is no excuse to ram it through considering the President is an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal crime.

Of course there is an excuse. It’s “The GOP has the numbers and can manipulate the system to get their guy in”. It’s the same excuse for denying/stonewalling Obama’s pick for a year under the pretence of “can’t allow a pick in an election year, should be a ballot issue”.

Oh, you wanted a GOOD excuse.....

If Ruth Bader Ginsburg passes away (can’t Imagine her retiring with Trump in power, even if she is 84), it is quite astounding to think that 33% of the highest court in the country for the next 30-40 years could be shaped by Donald Trump. And a sad indictment of both the US court and political systems that a supposedly non-political body is seen as acting in such a partisan manner depending on who sits on it. 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/massachusetts-primary-democratic-direction/index.html

23 hours ago, bustamente said:

This Bob Woodward book is going to be a eye opener for some and reaffirmation to others

What’s great is THIS exert is NOT true but I had to double check to see if it was or wasn’t.