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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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In other US news, students at the University of North Carolina have torn down Silent Sam, a Confederate monument, Saddam-style. 

They are technically vandals, yes, and ideally that's not the way that change happens in a country with the rule of law.

But let's check out the context of the statue -- here is an excerpt from the speech dedicating it.  It is ******* vile stuff so I'm gonna put it behind a spoiler. 

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The present generation, I am persuaded, scarcely takes note of what the Confederate soldier meant to the welfare of the Anglo Saxon race during the four years immediately succeeding the war, when the facts are, that their courage and steadfastness saved the very life of the Anglo Saxon race in the South – When “the bottom rail was on top” all over the Southern states, and to-day, as a consequence the purest strain of the Anglo Saxon is to be found in the 13 Southern States – Praise God ....

            I trust I may be pardoned for one allusion, howbeit it is rather personal. One hundred yards from where we stand, less than ninety days perhaps after my return from Appomattox, I horse-whipped a ***** wench until her skirts hung in shreds, because upon the streets of this quiet village she had publicly insulted and maligned a Southern lady, and then rushed for protection to these University buildings where was stationed a garrison of 100 Federal soldiers. I performed the pleasing duty in the immediate presence of the entire garrison, and for thirty nights afterwards slept with a double-barrel shot gun under my head.

- Julian Carr, industrialist and white supremacist.

 

So yeah, tear that motherfucker down. I'll chip in for legal fees.

(just to bring it home, Brian Walker and Travis Bond played at UNC)

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Oh boy 

You think trump wants to make sure manafort doesn’t flip?

17 minutes ago, JCon said:

Don't forget Postmedia's (the National Post, the Sun, etc.) connection to the National Enquirer. 

 http://www.canadalandshow.com/postmedia-david-pecker-donald-trump/

One thing that is never really touched on, the secret recording made by Cohen of him discussing the hush money with Trump, he refers to "matters involving our friend David" and everyone assumes he means David Pecker.  But I've seen it hypothesized that he means David Dennison, Trump's alias in the hush money agreements.  Might be a long shot, but if you assume thats what Cohen means, his phrasing makes more sense.

I’d honestly like to hear from the trump supporters that have posted here and see if they’ve changed their mind towards impeachment yet. 

 

This won’t be a popular opinion but it raises an interesting thought which, more than ever, ring true 

 

CNN has a story up about the Manafort trial and how it was almost tossed via mistrial due to jurors discussing the case before deliberations.  And we now know the 10 counts they could not agree on were held back by ONE vote for acquittal.  I cant believe they didnt sequester this jury.

Trump tells FOX that Cohen "flipped" and that flipping should be illegal.  Yikes.  He claimed an impeachment would crash the market and make everyone poor and that the country needs his mind. 

An admin so corrupt it would make Nixon blush 

 

Anti-Trump billboard put up in New Jersey: 'Our leader the idiot'

Pretty interesting poll results from fox of all places 

 

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Pretty interesting poll results from fox of all places 

 

Not only are the results interesting, the straightforward question is too. Not using double-negatives to get the result they want. 

29 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

Expect copious facts about how Pecker used "catch and kill" technique to kill stories ...to assist Trump in covering up his affairs.....you know, the ones that Trump knew nothing about.

Republican legislators of all stripes - have been struck deaf and dumb.....well, at least till after the midterms.

1 minute ago, do or die said:

Expect copious facts about how Pecker used "catch and kill" technique to kill stories ...to assist Trump in covering up his affairs.....you know, the ones that Trump knew nothing about.

Are you saying Trump will be brought down by his Pecker turning on him?

Just now, do or die said:

Republican legislators of all stripes - have been struck deaf and dumb.....well, at least till after the midterms.

This is the dirt worst.  There is no greater indication of their lack of patriotic duty than sitting silent to see which way the winds blow when the President has been outted in a criminal conspiracy to influence the election.  And thats not even related to his clear coziness with Russia and refusal to stop them from influencing another election.

It does show that if the Republicans get pounded in the mid terms, you'll see members start to jump off the Trump Train.  Its disgraceful that so many are neglecting their duty to their citizens and to their nation.  Its gross.

3 hours ago, JCon said:

Not only are the results interesting, the straightforward question is too. Not using double-negatives to get the result they want. 

You wouldn't know it from news, and political types, but Americans of all sorts agree on quite a few things. One of them being universal healthcare. 

Neither party interested in delivering it to them.

Think he regrets  running for president yet?

 

14 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Think he regrets  running for president yet?

Attention is attention and he craves ATTENTION. Doesn't matter if it's good or not, in his mind, he's in the right and wants to be the centre of the universe. Right now, more than ever, he is. If he had lost, without all the election fraud, the party would have pushed him aside. 

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6 minutes ago, JCon said:

Attention is attention and he craves ATTENTION. Doesn't matter if it's good or not, in his mind, he's in the right and wants to be the centre of the universe. Right now, more than ever, he is. If he had lost, without all the election fraud, the party would have pushed him aside. 

I think the plan was to lose, claim it was biased and corrupt and start a new far right media empire.  Im sure he relished being the most powerful man in the world (next to Putin) but this has been a disaster.  People close to him going to jail, all the reference and respect washing away, cant nail porn stars anymore and potential to go to prison himself.  And even if he's impeached, the idea of a far right media empire might still happen but it will be more of a niche for the bigots than a true "new right".

He's toast.  

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