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I thought it meant that Marve was hurt for 2 weeks and there was only 1 practice this week. So brohm playing actually makes sorta sense if you thought Willy might be more hurt than he was. 2 qbs would be hurt so by default the 1 healthy guy plays? I dunno tho.

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So was Jason Jaffray

OL has been pretty decent for the most part but they do have their break downs every now and then, seems to me that last game, Tyler was being picked on, he's a significant step down from Jace Daniels tho (who should be back this week) and the ESKS exploited him for sure. Greaves has struggled in 3 games, stood out in a bad way in 3 games but sounds like Neufeld might take his spot this week. All in all an oline of Bryant,Neufeld,Picard,Chungh,Daniels should be pretty decent really. Little unimpressed with Picard this year tho, somebody said it in another thread, thought the best thing about signing him was his shotgun snaps but even those appear to be all over the place this year, Picard has been owned several times.. I'd be tempted to try Goossen for a game just to see if he doesn't get owned as much as Picard.

I don't see any MARVE hate, what i see is some people realizing he's still pretty much green as goose crap, i see lots of potential in him but i've been around long enough to know that you don't throw a rookie basically in to the fire immediately if you want him to succeed. I like Marve, i like what I've seen of him but.. the fact is, he is a 2nd year player, he's green still, there is no conspiracy, he's not ready obviously.. while BROHM might not be the answer, part of me wants to see him go out there and fail again and again and again so the coaches finally get that he's not good enough and needs to be sent packing. Marve tho, I don't want him to go in there and get ruined.. People can say what they want on here but if Marve went in there and stunk the joint up, man, fans would be calling for his head too. I'd like to see him developed properly, not rushed, he has potential, why do we want to ruin him b4 he even gets a chance to learn the game. With that being said and going on this "he isn't ready" stuff yet, WTH is OSHEA talking about regarding DAVIS, saying he's not ready, he looked pretty damn good running dickenson and hufnagels O in the pre-season... he can run that O but he can't ours? LOL, is ours more complicated? if it is, is that part of the problem really?

WILD is a great WIL LB, would be great to see him back.. and no doubt he'd play immediately, but... just a question cuz i think he's actually starting to show why they kept him, Bass, what happens to him? He's getting better every game in my opinion, do we maybe move him to the middle? Cuz no way WILD should go back to the Middle.

I can't think of another reason why Brohm is given such a long leash. But the cronyism? explain what you mean by that... and how it exactly relates to brohm and the bombers? Cuz i don't see it.

Greaves has been a weak line this year.. NOW to start Goossen over Picard.

But one was a green as goose crap rookie and one had a year to learn in Hamilton. That makes a difference. I don't know of many teams in the league, not many at all really that are gonna go with a rookie #2. It just doesn't work like that really. I mean really, Marve has never played a down of pro ball in his life b4 coming here did he? Nope, he was a legit green as goose crap rookie. I dunno but i'd rather let the rookie develop properly instead of throwing his green ass in to the fire and watching him fail, i'm not that old but i'm old enough to remember several qb's over the years who had all these NCAA stats and people thought they were the second coming only to see them be cut, time and time and time again. The Brian Randalls of the world really... people thought he was gonna be our answer, coaches kept saying he's not ready, he's not ready.. then one time a coach decided to listen to the fans and put randall in to a game and randall didn't do crap.. That was the one thing i enjoyed about Mike Kelly actually, that one game where he kept listening to the fans and kept putting in every QB we had dressed, that was awesome and i thought, wow maybe some of the fans will learn that when coaches say the guy isn't ready, it means he's not ready. But nope, here we are years later... same thing all over again.

Here's my thoughts on this.. we ran the ball a combined 13 times last game, why dress 2 rb's if you aren't gonna use them, i mean really, heavy heavy heavy rainfall and we only run the ball 13 times? MB should be sent out back and shot. seriously... that's just stupidity at it's finest.

The pre-season stats really do mean nothing, Marve was playing against guys who are, well they aren't employed by a pro football team. The pre-season stats truly are the most meaningless of them all.

Man, i can't believe i'm gonna say this... wouldn't normally but all this MARVE stuff after a loss is getting so insane it's getting to me lol.. I hope Marve gets to play soon and here it goes, can't believe i'm gonna say this... i hope he craps the bed big time, not because i want to see the bombers fail but.. i kind of am curious to see what people would then say... Don't get me wrong here, go bombers and all but.... man, i'd love to see what some people would say if Marve went in there and sucked really badly. What would be the excuses? oh and i hope it's like plus 25 to plus 30 with no wind and no weather issues at all, i hope it's next game and i hope it's because BROHM gets hurt and is done for the season... But if i could be serious for a moment, Has brohm fully healed from his thumb injury? Could that be part of the problem this year cuz.. he wasn't as awful last year. He wasn't exactly lighting it up when he got his shots last year but.. he wasn't as awful as he has been this year either.

You need to look at the stats then really first time he got reps 5 for 10 for 64 yards second time 6/12 for 76 yards with a long of 42 so basically i know you can't do that but... you take that way and it's 5/11 for 34 yards.. Is that really moving the ball? or is it just a big play and then a bunch of nothing?? Pre-season don't count cuz the guy was playing against guys who are now bagging groceries and pumping gas. I like Marve and think he has potential but... i feel as tho some people are trying to make him out to be more than what he actually is.. He is a 50 percent passer, run first qb who probably has troubles learning a system and reading the D out there. He's the developmental QB right now, perhaps one day he becomes the back up but.. that day is not today, however if WILLY doesn't play, i suppose technically Marve does become the backup for one week.

Look the last 2 games were hard situations for any quarterback to come into. The team lost it's starter and it got them down mentally. There are enough excuses to be found that it is understandable that you don't make a change at qb, especially if you believe that Brohm understands the system better, and why shouldn't he? He's an older more experienced qb, I hope he understands things. That's probably a big comfort to the coaches. But don't fret about it too much, guys don't get unlimited chances to not produce. If he gets a week of prep as the starter and still goes out and poops his pants things will start to change. The job of a quarberback is to be able to step up in relief of the starter, even midway through a game if needed. If Brohm can't do that, what's the use in keeping him around? Especially when Marve has done admirable job in relief. There is not one aspect of Brohm's game that is attractive and he does not belong on a professional football field. When?

I don't think Marve has an attitude problem, i think he has a learning the system problem.. Listen if the guy is gonna go out and improvise all the team, it's not good, you need to learn the playbook, people can talk about conspiracies all they want but Marve has shown so far that when he has played, and taking the in love with marve goggles off, if you actually watched him play, it's complete and utter chaos... it's not exactly standing back in the pocket, going through his reads, it's look at one guy, if he's not open, take off and run. That won't win you many games. People can talk about that Calgary game all they want, Cornish was hurt, it was snowing, it was crappy, Calgary didn't care even... they were trying not to get hurt really.. that entire game, Marve was 50 percent passing... that's not good enough really... and it was chaos the entire time he was playing. It's not sustainable.. the simple fact with Marve is.. i don't think he's very smart... you hear people talk about smart QB's and all this stuff, Marve is a dumb one, he has all the tools except the one he needs the most, his brain... you need to know how to read a D, you need to know how to run the system otherwise... yup might be exciting but it's gonna get not only the QB killed eventually but also some of the receivers too.

Care to explain how it's cronyism exactly? using facts instead of made up things? for what it's worth @BobIrvingCJOB Robert marve now getting reps for bombers so he looks healthy enough to play if necessary Man our media.... Kirk Penton @PentonKirk Robert Marve is hobbling a bit but is throwing darts in his limited reps. #Bombers Guess he is hurt a bit... there goes those conspiracy theories.

I'm just gonna ask this, for all those who are high on ARMIA and think he makes the team this season out of camp... have you ever seen him play? My guess would be NOPE... because honestly how could you have seen him play? What makes everyone so sure he makes the team out of camp? I mean if this is based on D camp, if a 22 year old doesn't look as good or in some cases better than the younger guys, then he should be let go immediately. I didn't think he was much better than Lemieux,Petan. Ehlers and the sorts. I honestly thought those 3 looked better and since they are younger than ARmia, that's sort of a problem isn't it? Armia is a 22 year old who has yet to crack an NHL roster.. just cuz he was a first round pick, it doesn't mean anything really... the guy is at the point almost where if he doesn't make the NHL soon (this year or next) then he's pretty much a bust... i don't even think he's in our top 5 prospects even.

One question that's been on my mind recently tho... In the off-season, did we fire the wrong coordinator? Not saying that ETCH shouldn't have been fired but... should MB have been fired too?

I honestly don't know what they see in Brohm, i really don't... he throws balls in to double coverage always, can they not see that on the film? He one hops passes to guys? can they not see that on the film? He sucks the life out of the team when he comes in to the game, I just honestly don't really get what they see in him, yeah i get that he "knows the system" but if skipping passes and throwing picks and throwing in to double coverage is knowing the system, maybe it's not only time for Brohm to go away, maybe it's time for a new system. It's gonna get ugly thursday at IGF if brohm starts and struggles. It's gonna get real ugly and honestly, instead of risking a worse injury to Willy, he should sit this week, don't risk it, it's just one game... let him sit, rest up... if this was a long week i'd probably say let him play but it's a short one, a real short one, 1 practice b4 the game... it's not enough and man could you imagine if Willy plays and is injured even worse? The season is done then pretty much. If i were them, START BRohm and see what happens... hopefully it gets so bad that they are forced to put in Marve, although honestly, I bet brohm would have to throw 5 or 6 picks b4 that happens. I hope Brohm does well but.. i know better than that really... he's gonna suck if he starts and suck real bad too. The vultures and boo birds will be out and for the first time in a long long time, I'll actually agree with the boo birds, I never really think it's cool to boo your team but... if brohm starts and struggles and isn't pulled, yup... boo away people, boo like you've never boo'd b4.

So Marve hasn't taken any reps in 2 weeks and the game is this Thursday meaning what? 2 practices at most? maybe 1 and a walk through tomorrow? Makes sense to me. I would like to see what Marve can do but.. if he hasn't taken reps for 2 weeks and it's a short week, man, people are just wanting him to fail it seems. What would happen if Marve started and sucked?

Well, Honestly, the backs can't do much when it's obvious they will be running the ball. There is no imagination at all with the OC in terms of the running game. It's 1000 percent obvious when we are going to run the ball and when we won't.

I think if Brohm starts and craps the bed, then they will change their thought process. It's one thing to come in off the bench, it's another to start the game and suck. We will see what happens, Hopefully Willy can play but a small part of me hopes Brohm plays and craps the bed.

Those people are so drunk it's insane. Man its embarrassing to listen to post game shows. People rant and rave and say nothing but slurred words and garbage. You know what they do after they hang up? Pass out on the floor in their own vomit

To be fair the D line has started to look better

Taylor Reed? Or was he on our pr