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58 minutes ago, bustamente said:
Biden will win the popular vote of that there is no doubt, all he needs to win the electoral college is take Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona and either Florida or Pennsylvania.
Better yet, he'd need even less of those states if he ends up taking Texas, which is now looking very possible. But then if he does take Texas, there's no way he wouldn't take the vast majority of those states save for maybe Arizona or Florida.
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1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:
Hahahahahahaha funny how 6’3 trump is always so much shorter than everyone who is 6’2 he stands next to.
dude is 6’. and about 310.
Yep, here's the proof:
Trudeau is 6'1.5" to 6'2" (read conflicting information on which it is) and appears to be at least an inch taller than Trump.
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1 minute ago, pigseye said:
Better check your source,
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-beast/
LEFT BIAS
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aka fake news.
You missed this.
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Overall, we rate the Daily Beast Left-Biased due to story selection that favors the left and High for factual reporting based on proper sourcing and a reasonable fact check record in relation to the volume of stories they publish. (5/13/2016) Updated (M. Huitsing 02/14/2020)
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6 hours ago, do or die said:
Steady drumbeat against Fauci, from the usual sites, crying about his "betrayal" and calling him various forms of swamp dwelling, Obama loving, deep state agent....
So, who would replace him?
Dr. Rudy?
Dr Oz?
Dr. Navarro?
Dr. Kushner?Normally, one would think this is satire, but this administration has already passed the point of absurdity, in a whole lot of areas.
Jim Bakker, the Silver Solution guy could be in the mix as well, haha.
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12 minutes ago, J5V said:
AtlanticRiderFan's numbers were based on total population, yours on number of cases.
Death rate of Denmark= 273/6369*100= 4.3%
Death rate of Sweden=899/10483*100=8.6%The number I saw from last week for Sweden was 400 but we'll use your figure of 477.
477/10483*100 equals 4.55% which is virtually identical to Denmark's 4.3% so I'll stand on those numbers.I won't call you a liar and claim you made stuff up as that would be attacking you personally. I'll just assume you made a mistake in comparing apples to oranges.
Mine is based on the total number of cases as well. Deaths divided by number of cases in that country
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3 hours ago, J5V said:
In the video he said that Denmark, Sweden's neighbour, went into full lockdown mode, like us, and is experiencing about the same death rate as Sweden. If that's true, then what's the point of a lockdown? Add to that the fact that Sweden hasn't "cratered" their economy and the strategy makes sense. Their approach is to take the brunt of it now and get it over with instead of prolonging the pain and suffering of a protracted lockdown.
Did some math. (Numbers from CBC coronavirus tracker)
Death rate of Denmark= 273/6369*100= 4.3%
Death rate of Sweden=899/10483*100=8.6%
Sweden's death rate (to the nearest tenth) is exactly double that of Denmark's. How is that about the same?
And that approach is precisely how you overrun the healthcare system. The prolonging is so that the system can actually accommodate everyone who gets coronavirus. Otherwise, more people die because they can't receive proper treatment.
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5 minutes ago, Floyd said:
1) You are cherry picking my posts the same as you accuse me of doing... that's fine. My original post said the curve is flattening and for sure it is in Western Canada... Quebec snowbirds may be complicating that but Manitoba is not a hotbed of Covid either.
2) In a rational world, we could be coming out of lockdown by May or even Easter - I stand by that. May or Easter is not flip flopping. That is my opinion - in reality, we are out by June in Canada. Right or wrong.
3) Yes, of course you are fine with a two year lockdown - you get paid no matter what, many people don't. You won't lose your house or your job. Save me the personal sob story - I have mine too, my friend's dad is in a covid coma - and our personal stories should make zero difference for government policy.
It is because of social distancing that the curve is flattening. We can't just stop our measures the moment the curve begins to flatten. Returning to normal by Easter or May would certainly make it get out of hand again. 6 months is the magic number for social distancing measures to successfully ensure that the healthcare system doesn't get overwhelmed. And that is provided that we are meeting our targets.
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6 hours ago, J5V said:
Who are you arguing with and what are you arguing?
That wasn't directed at you, just a general statement. Sorry
As for what you said about Singapore, their measures are easily more extreme than ours, with exception to businesses staying open.
They aren't under lockdown, but neither are we. The expert in the article states that countries are going to have adopt Singapore's measures in addition to a lockdown in order to keep citizens safe. He also warns that herd immunity requires too many people to be exposed to the virus, and therefore, we should wait until a vaccine is available.
Your article proves the opposite of what you are trying to say. It's saying we need to do more, not less.
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16 minutes ago, Floyd said:
Covid will be over in Canada by May...
And if your numbers are true - global leaders will be forced to decide between economy and elderly... they will choose the economy. The world is not staying closed for six months.
One more month in Canada and maybe two in States - if that.
This is contrary to the what the federal government has stated. They say in a "best case scenario," social distancing will last until at least July. Covid will not be over in May. It might peak at that point, but there will still be many infections at that point, especially if we don't properly flatten the curve.
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This is what COVID could have looked like without intervention. Most of the world population being infected and over 40 million dying worldwide. Still think we are overreacting?
https://globalnews.ca/news/6754014/coronavirus-pandemic-projected-deaths-report/
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18 minutes ago, J5V said:
I'm all for protecting the most vulnerable, which are the sick and the elderly -- those with compromised immune systems. The vast majority of fatalities belong to that group and not the strong and healthy. The vast majority of us experience mild to no symptoms. This is not my opinion. It is a fact. We don't isolate the strong and healthy for the flu, which so far has proven to be an even bigger killer, so why are we doing it for the coronavirus? We have no vaccine for the coronavirus so how are we supposed to build herd immunity within our strong and healthy population? By isolating them? Makes no sense to me and I don't know how it makes sense to you.
The measures I disagree with are economic and are resulting in the destruction of our economy. This, in my opinion, is insanity.
Because the strong and healthy can still pass it on to vulnerable people, even if they are not symptomatic. We also don't know everything about this virus yet, as it is new, so it is incredibly dangerous to put the general population at risk by not taking precautions. It could have more detrimental effects on healthy people than we realize. Right now when we don't have a vaccine is all the more reason to keep our distance. A vaccine will be developed eventually, so in the meantime, let's not let it spread exponentially. Yes, the closures are terrible for the economy, but I would rather millions of people not die or have irreversible damage done to their bodies.
You also keep saying that the flu is deadlier, but the coronavirus death toll has only spiked within the last two to three weeks. We don't know that it isn't going to be worse than the flu in a few months time. THIS is why we are being more cautious with coronavirus than with the flu.
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11 hours ago, J5V said:
I have never claimed that coronavirus is no big deal so don't make stuff up. As to the flu shot being ineffective, there is lots of support for that argument. I think the intelligent thing to do is weigh both sides before you decide. Personally I don't care whether you get a flu shot or not. I wish you good health either way.
You didn't come out and say that coronavirus was no big deal, but you have definitely downplayed the severity of it, and you have implied that the measures being taken are too extreme. But those measures are what will prevent the healthcare system from being overrun, and in turn, people dying because they couldn't get proper treatment. And if the measures don't work, it's because not enough people listened. But if they do work, it wasn't an overreaction; it means we took proper precautions.
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1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:
Gotta admit- every time i see that avatar of yours I throw up a little in my mouth.
But then I see that it's you and I know the post is going to be one of quality. And you didn't disappoint- great post.
Thanks, wanna-b. Glad we can be together in this, despite our obvious differences
. What I'd give for us to smack talk about football right now!
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8 hours ago, J5V said:
BTW, before you run off to get your next flu shot, you might want to read this article on the hazards and effectiveness of the flu shot before you make up your mind.
https://experiencelife.com/article/the-debate-about-flu-shots/
So on one hand, you're saying that coronavirus is no big deal and that the flu needs to be taken more seriously. But on the other hand, you are criticizing the #1 remedy to the flu crisis (aside from basic hygiene). How the hell does that make any sense?
As far as the effectiveness goes, yes they sometimes miscalculate which strain of the flu is going to be the one that gets bad, but getting the shot is still better than nothing and should help boost your immunity.
As far as the "hazards" go, there is a far, FAR greater chance that you will be harmed from the flu than getting harmed from the vaccine. People who are immunocompromised especially cannot take that risk.
Flu shots are not perfect, and nobody is claiming that they are, but they are better than the alternative (getting seriously ill). And this is coming from someone who, admittedly, hasn't gotten the flu shot for a while, but in light of the pandemic, will be getting it going forward. Always take precautions.
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49 minutes ago, J5V said:
In a new interview, Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, a world renowned expert in medical microbiology, says blaming the new coronavirus alone for deaths is „wrong“ and „dangerously misleading“, as there are other more important factors at play, notably pre-existing health conditions and poor air quality in Chinese and Northern Italian cities. Professor Bhakdi describes the currently discussed or imposed measures as „grotesque“, „useless“, „self-destructive“ and a „collective suicide“ that will shorten the lifespan of the elderly and should not be accepted by society.
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/coronavirus-faktencheck-bhakdi-100.html
Bhakdi's numbers don't add up.
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My link is a reliable source
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zdf-zweites-deutsches-fernsehen/
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53 minutes ago, iHeart said:
nope it's Karma for saying that it's a hoax speaking of Karma
Geeze, couldn't ask for worse scum to get the virus, haha. Now just don't spread it around!!
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Isn't this some kind of karma for voting against the COVID-19 bill...
JUST IN: Sen. Rand Paul says he has tested positive for coronavirus but he doesn't have symptoms. He's the first US senator to test positive. https://t.co/IbyGD0lRtk
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1 hour ago, J5V said:
Some of you guys really need to chill. Look at how you're acting. Effin sad.
Does this not alarm you?
It is growing rapidly, and until people stay the **** home, stop traveling, and start taking this seriously, people will continue get sick and die. This isn't alarmism; this is reality. Wake up.
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4 hours ago, do or die said:
According to Trump
Such insight. Such a stable genius....
Unfortunately, Trump did not actually make that quote. I wish he had, though.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-quote-never-died-before/
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5 hours ago, Piggy 1 said:
He was a Commie.....
It's possible to show respect for someone that you don't agree with. Don't forget that Stephen Harper held a state funeral for him, despite their political differences.
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It will be very close either way, but fortunately Biden doesn't need Texas to win. IMO, Trump does, and he's truly done if it flips, regardless of what happens in the other states.