BigBlueFanatic

What about Powell screams 7-8 year starter? He had a fairly unremarkable rookie season. Did well in the one game in 2024 before leaving the field in an ambulance due to a concussion and has thrown 12 passes since.

Low pay, and aiming at that will get you there. The thing is, most rookies are on pretty low contracts once they pay taxes and convert, not to mention living expenses being up here. After all that, even if you come in at 100k, what are you sending home? 25-30 maybe? For anyone with a family, it isn't a living wage being a rookie QB up here.
Id say they have good talent. Skill levels, I mean, you always end up picking a tool kit that balances one of arm strength, and accuracy/touch. That's really all throwing sports. And part of the struggle in developing QBs. No different than MLB teams developing pitchers. The throwing talent is completely separate from throwing athleticism, and extraordinarily nuanced. You usually hope to end up with a guy who throws just hard enough and has the ability to put the ball where it needs to go, or a guy with a cannon and athleticism who is as much playing spray and pray in the pass game.
Intangibles can be tough to quantify, beyond what you'd expect as well. Because basically all the QBs coming up are at best 2-year starters, it is very hard to tell what is a product of an intangible and what is a fluke or other factors. Back in the day, when every QB going pro was a 3-4 year starter, and a 3-4 year HS starter, you could get a much better evaluation of the guy.
Yeah, I mean, teams and players don't want to wait. But at the same time, you only learn so much on the bench. I think young prospects need more seasoning in the first year and a half or so, then after that point. You really have to stress test them. Practice isn't a source of that at all anymore. So we see young guys who have sat for a year or two, know the system, understand most of the nuances of the game, but haven't been battle-hardened enough to be able to make use of those assets.

If I were running a team, this is what I would do.
Break down the QB prospects into 2 lists. Long list guys, and short list. Long list guys are ones that you've scouted extensively and are ready to keep around for 2 years, almost no matter what. Like how we waited out dru browns early struggles. The short list is guys who have the raw tools you like and may or may not be available. These range from flyers to guys you would watch for a few months to a season to get a better read on while they are on the team.
Bring in 4-5 max of these guys. Assuming you have no real QB2, but a starter. You do install with your starter and give heavy, heavy rep time to the prospects. You likely would be lucky to have more than 1 long list guy at a time. So 3-4 short list guys, and as you see critical red flags, you replace them with other short list guys. Mainly, a lack of mental toughness, mental ability to read/progress/improvise, or a lack of the balance of touch/accuracy/release/strength required.
You break camp with 3 on the ar, but any time you get one, you should take a vet for QB2. So you end up sitting with 2-3 developmental guys. Any long list guy, or a short list overachiever, goes on the 6-game out of camp. You test the mettle of the remaining kids, cycling them through pr, scout team, heavy drill use, and short yardage stuff on the ar. As they break, you replace them. At 6 games, if any are left standing, you switch them for the first group and sit them on the ir for 6, giving the first group a chance.
So you sit a max of 2 QBs on the IR, with a starter/backup, and 2 guys going from pr to ir fighting for a spot. Repeat that grinder until you have 2-3 guys who are at least ready to be between qb2/3. Guys, you can't expect to easily replace them with free agents.
Then, you run the blender again with them. You do this and hope to go into the next camp able to move on from QB2 or not being crippled if you lose qb 1.
To run this blender, you need to be airlifting and cycling DBs and WRs as well. You can't really practice with QBs facing a real rush, but you can run a ton of Skelly. And you force them to run it on double time to create that friction to struggle against. You call snap, get the QB the ball, and he has to rely on post-snap read and reaction. Shorter than 5-second routes till whistle and next QB up.
You'd also need more offensive coaches than D to facilitate running this. You'd each scout to dedicate more time to QBs than the rest, or maybe 1-2 almost full-time on QBs.
You probably need to have 2 years to get to the point you want to be at. But most teams' QB plan amounts to either, Hope you hit the lotto, Hope your guy doesn't get hurt/diminish/retire/leave in FA, or Hope someone else can develop a guy who goes to FA that you can poach. Which is how you end up with 40 year old qbs with injury records longer than all the pages Stephen King has written.

We are on the cusp of losing BLM, Zach, and Harris in this league. MBT and Masoli are basically done in all but paperwork. Vaj and Fajardo are 33-34 with a ton of wear. The pest hasn't played well outside of or been healthy-ish since 23. As bad as the coming rule changes are, the biggest crisis that the league faces is QBing. If that ship isn't righted with a new group of younger talent, the rest of the stuff will just be the straw that breaks the camels back.

I think it's a matter of both players not playing up to their contracts last year and expecting the same pay day. I'm sure teams inquired on both and didn't like the asking price. Both guys were highly paid last year and were not going to receive that amount again whether in FA or in the second year of a contract. Once the reality sets in no one is ponying up big bucks some guys choose to retire.

He must have used ChatGPT to see the projected depth chart where he was listed behind Darian Durant. Chase saw the writing on the wall and decided to hang them up.

Well the full stop has been brought out. Nothing more to be said here.
HardCoreBlue is right about everything. Full stop.

What kind of twisted logic is that? You make no sense. With your argument, every player is overpaid. And there's no market for any player to ask for money. You realize that Rourke will be making $700,000 in 2027 & $800,000 in 2029? Is he worth it? Has he got the Lions to the Grey Cup? What's he won??

You think you had it rough? This was my first career job working with my hands. My boss was tough. He was a slave driver. I'm so old I had a Jesus Starter jacket.

In my day, we used to work for a nickel, which had a picture of a bee on it. Give me five bees for a quarter, we'd say....

Counterpoint, the SMS has gone up 750k since 2024 so Collaros' share is noticeablely smaller. (10.9% vs 8.8%).

Okay, maybe saying he "**** on the CFL" bordered on the ridiculousl. For that, I was wrong. I absolutely agree with your take, though The CFL is a league that just doesn't get why it isn't even mentiobned in a Toronto fan poll. The coaches & admin cap along with the rookie salary cap have to go. Why three years for Canadians & just two for Americans? These rules are strangling the CFL & not allowing for any kind of growth to take place. It also makes the CFL look bush league. Especially in Toronto, Calgary & Edmonton where fan support is apathetic. No exponential growth will happen until the league & the new Commish fix these meat & potato issues.

Yes, there has been a serious lack of talk about what Jake had for breakfast lately.

Actions speak louder than words. He DOES NOT want to be here. Don't be surprised if we trade his rights to the Argos or Ti Cats for a bag of footballs.

What the hell are you talking about. He hasn't said anything negative about the CFL. He's just trying to land a spot down south.

Why are you knocking a future hall of famer?

Yeah but what do people think he should be doing with his life? We should fill a 3rd thread with comments about him just to be sure

I will say again, too many people have entirely too much thought invested in a guy who is at best a prospect.
When he actually shows up the ln let's start investing time and effort into thinking of him, until then he really is a non-factor.

We have last year's UFL MVP coming to camp, that's how much lighting it up in the UFL is worth.

It would take a lot of injuries. There are a crap load of former 2nd, 3rd, and PR QBs currently out of work that would get the call ahead of him. Heck last year the NFL even pulled Rivers out of retirement before they would look down their depth charts and FA's. Injuries is not a viable way into the NFL for Elgersma.

Yep. I love what jy and hall, but that is pretty much the only stretch of time we had that consistent disruption/pressure. Haven’t had great personnel on the dl over that time, but we also haven’t developed or made use of guys in that time.
I hope hall and thomas focus on the dl and disruption while jy runs coverage. we’ve seen hall run some brilliant front concepts when he’s had the horses.

My hypothetical DC resume would just be me screaming a quote from Remember The Titans “YOU BLITZ, ALLLLL NIGHT LOOONNNNG”
So yeah, hanging on to my day job probably the wise move…

3 on 3 arcade hockey for an Olympic gold is the dumbest thing ever

And you give me a confused emoji on not liking the way Cuthbert calls a hockey game? Sheesh.

**** any curlers that aren't from Manitoba... I'm as patriotic as anyone, but man was I rooting for anyone other than Jacobs and Homan. Fart noises.

you can, but blitzing is hard and strange in the cfl.
The more guys you have that are reliable in coverage, like you said, you can do any ting and every thing better.
D today is all about how well you can blanket with out breaking, and how well you can disrupt at the line. If a guy isn’t one of those or a guy who heavily enables others to do that easier, they aren’t an asset on the field. Just a body filling a spot.
If you can take away over the top routes with out a massive bubble, you can run up and play the ball or the man and disrupt the pass too.
Guys who can do both are worth their weight in championship rings. Guys like ba, biggie, and wj in their prime.
jy/hall love versatile cover guys. Makes every one’s life much easier
I wouldn’t be surprised if we find another db this year. We got lots of good vets, but we scout db and use them really well.

Second and long. 5 DBs, bring the house!
It was at the point where every commentator was noticing it, but opposing O's still had no answer for it.
I DON'T WANT A RECEIVER...TO CROSS THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE!