White Out

I didnt mean to use the 3-13 as Cherry Picking to pile on to MOS I just meant to say that in the last 16 games we've lost a lot of football. Fatigue and shell shock sets in for fans.

Aren't we 3 and 13 since going 5-1 to start last season? That's expansion team bad.

True Blue your post is probably the best I've seen here yet Kudos

Nice to see the general public finally souring on our coach. Terrible hire imo.

The world and especially sports cannot be viewed so such a black and white version of the world. There is a plethora of grey area to consider IMO. I guess my larger, over arching point is that this is still a sports league, where championships matter. No championships in 24 years, compounded with a really poor regular season record has left me with almost no fuse left for this team. And it sucks because I recognize that this club has improved and we're 2-2. So what's your point? Jesus, really? My point is that in sports it can easily be black and white when looking at championships. Especially in an 8 team league (for the vast majority of it). You can't possibly be that obtuse can you?

Hard not to agree... if that 2001 team had gotten the job done (they really should have)... we would all be a lot more patient today Losing to BC a few years ago in the Grey Cup wasn't unexpected. But that 2001 fail job is hard to swallow still. Even worse was the Riders Cup loss. We were a much better team and if not for that god damn broken arm we would have won. Of that I have no doubt. Hell, even with that complete loser Dinwiddie in the pocket we nearly won. Says a lot about that team that year and how mediocre the Riders were.

Wouldn't surprise me. Another bad decision by our intrepid coach.

btw Im harping on Willy but dont blame him for the loss as #1 reason #1 Stoddemeyer however its spelled #2 Hiram #3 Willy at the end #4 OShea

Are you really going to rope off the first 5 games of last season? How about the Banjo Bowl, or the other Rider home game with 2 late game killing picks? Drew had a fantastic start to 2014 then he was brutally average or worse. I can rope it off because our offensive line went to complete **** after that. nothing changed. nadda. zilch. Willy won with that offensive line, then, he threw stupid mindless picks and lost a tonne of football with them that same year.

Are you really going to rope off the first 5 games of last season? How about the Banjo Bowl, or the other Rider home game with 2 late game killing picks? Drew had a fantastic start to 2014 then he was brutally average or worse.

I'm not suggesting Willy is regressing. I'm suggesting that he's simply not a clutch quarterback. Actually that's hardly an assertion. That's just pointing out what can be proven with stats and numbers. I gaurentee a disproportionate number of his interceptions are in the 4th. Also, the dude threw a 10 yard pick to a Stampeder player with no one near him. He only had to make 30 yards or so in 30 seconds. It wasn't a desperate hail mary 70 yard bomb picked off.

Yeah Could be. We may have a better idea by the end of the season. The last minute of the game felt Lapo-like. Could be. We may have a better idea by the end of the season. The last minute of the game felt Lapo-like.We've had too many LaPolice/Rheinbold/Burke moments of late and the scary thing is that Willy sure as spit looks like he is regressing.How does he look like he's regressing? Lmfao. Calgary has one of the best pass defences in the league.. He did rather well did he not?The things people chose to try and claim around here at times..When Willy's game deserted him last year, his biggest failing was his inability to handle blitzes and folding in crunch time. That's pretty much what happened tonight. Uh. I saw him handle the blitz really well up til the last play of the game with the int. not sure what game you were watching. He either tossed it away or dumped it off for small gains.. He also made some great throws in the face of it too. Great retort. Willy was fine until he threw a game killing interception... or didnt call time out on a drive killing penalty. You either have it in the clutch or you dont. Right now, Willy is not a clutch guy. When the pressure is on he gets worse. That's just fact. Will it improve, God I hope so. It's his 2nd year as a starter but hes' going to be 29 in November. He's actually past his prime in football years. Or entering the final stages of it.

The world and especially sports cannot be viewed so such a black and white version of the world. There is a plethora of grey area to consider IMO. I guess my larger, over arching point is that this is still a sports league, where championships matter. No championships in 24 years, compounded with a really poor regular season record has left me with almost no fuse left for this team. And it sucks because I recognize that this club has improved and we're 2-2.

Is 34 really that old? I dont know, it feels like it. Last time my Bombers were a good team was the 80's We've had sporadic success since then.... a few Grey Cup appearances then we would just as quickly sink back into mediocrity. So it's actually been a really lousy 2 and a half decades of being a Bomber fan (holy crap 25 years..) I feel like us older guys maybe lack some perspective and are easier to anger. I guess I'd ask for patience from others who wonder why I fly off the handle a little too fast. I'm just exhausted from my team that I grew up with become the worst team in the league, and for so long. Now with that said, it's not O'Shea's fault what happened for 23 of those years. It's not Walters fault for... 22? Willy has thrown some really bad, awfully timed interceptions but it's not his fault either that this team has been so bad for so long. So honestly, how do you a lot of people around here stay focused on the long term seemingly and not get so disheartened after losses like this? I mean this post in all earnest , no bs. I find myself the same way with some Jets players but can think longer term with them... and they've been gone since 15 years and didn't win a thing when I was a kid. Do the Bomber fans out in the internet land think Walters is the long term key? Is O'Shea a good long term gamble, and these blunders will only make the coach stronger moving forward? I dunno. I guess I'm just thinking out loud. In a way I feel bad for some negativity I bring after losses, but I don't know how else to react anymore after so many years.

sorry to say gents but ill be in attendance today, so, thats not good news. my record for the bombers in calgary is 0-9.

My goodness is this actually happening? Our offense was very average with zero finish, and if not for some terrible Montreal blunders this was a loss.

Just like in the Brohm thread how people label them as haters? Unless people fart rainbows they hatin' It's a football board. Becomes pretty crappy when it's a soap opera between posters and basically no football. Being critical and having opinions is the point, but it would be nice if we could stick to football and avoid the soap opera garbage, like labeling and trying very hard to play the role to get the label for example. Sorry but, you invited this own type of posting and content. I asked a legitimate question that the TSN panel themselves talked about at the game; suffering of Winnipeg fans. Your answer could have been: "I don't think our fans will ever really give up but I could see X happening". Instead you chose to make it a drama by insisting posts such as this which mirror/resembled actual football talk that occurred during a game on TSN are what ruined another forum.

Just like in the Brohm thread how people label them as haters? Unless people fart rainbows they hatin'

i swear i saw posts just like this after we went on a losing streak after game 8 or 7 last year.

I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but, the Bombers have been the best team in the league at breaking their fans hearts and embarrassing them on and off the field for a while now. 24 years no championships. Ugly new jerseys. New stadium woes. So how long do Winnipeg fans stay loyal and keep showing up? I think it's pretty admirable we sell as many tickets as we do considering the on field product we put up with... but that can't last forever.

what a troll /sarcasm Owsh has a hillarious streak of playing his friends or people he likes in spite of evidence. Well I would assume most coaches play the guys they like lol? ya, that they like for reasons like.. they win... they're effective etc. not that their buddies.

what a troll /sarcasm Owsh has a hillarious streak of playing his friends or people he likes in spite of evidence.

exactly. its like when pavelec gets lits up.

MOS is in over his head and it's so clearly demonstrated for us by him trotting out Brohm. So bad.

if i was still in winnipeg, i woudlnt throw good money after bad. this franchise is a disgrace. i support the jets through and through, and im a life long bomber so im no fair weather fan. but the bombers have crossed into chicago blackhawks territory of abusing their fans and sucking (90s and 2000s before toews) #### this team.