White Out

I don't think you can pin this JUST on the offence, but yeah, I'm not going to go to bat for Nichols on that game. The endzone interception and pick 6 were massive game changing plays, and were unforced errors. Bad judegment, bad decisions. Willy-esque, if you will. But let's not forgive the D too much. Who here didn't recognize the D had given up in the late 3rd when the Stamps started moving the ball at will, with our D looking gassed. Just after the half time break and our D look exhausted. How out of shape do you have to be as a pro to be gassed that early? We aren't talking middle or late 4th and getting pounded on.. this is middle of the 3rd and our D looked like they were surrendering. And they did. My take aways: Nichols had a dreadful game Our O line was very poor Our D looked totally uninterested in the 2nd half Coaching continues to be abysmal

I gave MOS a reprieve from criticism last year when he finally yanked Willy, but it's going to be hard to not criticize him watching how poorly we come out in the 2nd half of games. That was as demoralizing a game as I could have watched last night, everything was in place. Playing a team that has owned our stadium, riddled with injuries, and not playing very well. The Stamps sucked last night compared to their usual efforts and we just served up the game on a platter. Serenity now.

Bo Levi Mitchell has more wins at IGF than any other Qb. Jesus. Is there any wonder why fan apathy is so easily stoked? Man. Shake it off and win next game please.

I mean, he did put up 37 points in 4 quarters, but not good enough? Really?

A lot. This guy still isn't getting the respect he deserves, and I'm not even talking here. TSN, Sportsnet, the papers, Nichols in general seems to still have the game manager tag on him. I have to think some of it comes from our play calling and how stupidly conservative we can get, and that's understandable I guess if your a fan of another team and just catch a quarter or two. But for full time analysts and our own fans, this guy isn't Matt Dunigan but he sure as hell isn't Garza or Dinwiddie. Nichols finished last night with a QB rating of over 120, 4 touchdowns, 300+ yards, and 64% throwing. Yet you would think that he needs to elevate his game if you read some of the posts from the game thread. So yeah, I'm going to make a Matt Nichols bandwagon because after watching a long line of terrible quarterbacks (including the anointed Drew Willy) I like winners. And Nichols is a god damn winner.

There's a number of specifics I could point to, but that's not going to paint as good a picture as his record as a starter. It's terrible, and Nichols stepped in on the same team and lead it to a playoff berth. But if you want specifics his decision making is awful. His game killing interceptions against Saskatchewan (both games) and in Calgary in 2015 demonstrate error prone judgement skills. He panics, doesn't know how to make quick reads, and forces balls. Hell, not just forcing balls.. he throws into danger because he likely doesn't even see the danger. You can teach a lot to a QB. You can teach a better throwing technique, you can teach him how to slide and be safe. You can teach a QB how to read certain defences but in the end decision making under fire and football IQ are either there or they aren't. Drew lacks QB IQ and because he does he finds himself without a position in the CFL and being released by maybe the worst team in the CFL.

Alright lets try this again. Willy being cut was no shock, I called it last season. He's a lousy QB who was supremely overrated. The problem with him was always his decision making.. he made bad choices and panicked in the pocket. I have read that this should be attributed to the Bombers O "ruining" him or giving him "shell shock". That's silly imo. He was exposed, not ruined. Two very different things. Riders will be lucky to win 5 this year, with how competitive the west will be.

Challenges need to end. They've become a clown show and make the product unwatchable

it takes a lot of training to be wrong at so many things.

Wow. Still with this canard hey? Willy wont even be in the league in 2018. MAYBE he will be a backup next year. Give it up. He's done, you were wrong about him.

I dont think you can say BLM is a young "up and coming qb". He's at worst the 2nd best QB in the CFL. At worst. And he's only 26. mitchell has a lousy game by his standards but the Stampeders D were the ones that put them in that huge deficit.

If Nichols can be had for 375 or less I'm fine with that. But my primary preference is we go with Franklin and possibly finally have a star QB

Remember when people said Willy was the younger of the two? And he's months younger than Nichols? 4 years is a lot when you could make the case he's the next big time qb for th CFL

as much as I like Nichols I want the Bombers to use our draft picks to get Franklin. Nichols isn't a spring chicken and I don't see him as someone who can command an offense in the way Franklin can if he hits his ceiling.

I actually dont have any clear memories of the 1990 Grey Cup. That's sad. I still remember very well our last 3 trips and the bitter sting of disappointment. None worse than watching Dinwiddie throw the game away after the rest of the team played their brains out for him.

1st stone: Bombers need a new stadiu\m 2nd stone: they need it in the middle of no where? profit?

This is a really lazy argument, it's nothing more than ad hominem. It's especially egregious because you've been proven wrong. Polo Park is very close to the downtown area, and IGF is very much in the middle of no-where for Winnipeg standards. The city got a deal, as usual, and I'm sure the cheapskates who put this stadium together are clinking together their plastic cups at the local McDonalds. The stadium is beautiful, the nicest in the CFL for now. But the location stinks and that's not idle complaining, it's fact. Getting to games at the old stadium was far easier. Getting to Jets games is VERY easy at their new rink. You're wrong. Just own it.

I don't think that's racist. In fact you suggesting that it's racist is in itself racist.

Ya but a lot of that is natives moving in with lower wage/salaries

I don't know why that common mistake in terminology bothers me. It just does.

you win championships in the trenches. this team didnt have enough pressure on qb's. this was our biggest flaw all year; quarterbacks had an eternity to find someone.

Ya but he's right. Sorry, if we didn't make it on 3rd and 4 you just shake your head at the blown lead and move on. a 62 or 61 yard field goal? what a gift to the lions. what a gift.

Nichols throws for 10 short of 400 and yet I knew the offense would be in certain posters cross hairs We lost because our defense couldn't stop a peewee team in the 2nd half. It was actually embarrassing to watch. MOS's stupid decision, as stupid as it was, doesn't mean we gave up on a sure thing on 3rd and 4. No, this game is SQUARELY on our lousy pass rush and coverage. If we aren't turning the ball over we're letting teams steam roll us for hundreds of yards. That's not a recipe for success.

*sigh* You said that the late game was garbage time in an attempt to zing me. Now you're changing it to the entire game. Secondly. If this entire game is garbage time then what the **** is the point of this thread and you giving other players a tap on the shoulder? If they're worthy of a nod, then so is Nichols. Your argument is invalid. How do you not see this? Is this an elaborate prank??