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What did not work out for the AFL etc is that they looked for warm bodies basically because they wouldn't pay a living wage. I get what you are saying that work ethic, desire etc can lead to lunch pail QBs if you go out and get skill deficient QBs. However, in our league most QBs have a good skill set it's the intangibles that set them apart and that makes it very hard to scout for the next one because it isn't something that's easy to put your finger on until you see the guy in camp, and then in game action.

As it should be. Work ethic, desire, and catching onto the game are what sets our league's starters apart from our wash outs.

I think it's a matter of both players not playing up to their contracts last year and expecting the same pay day. I'm sure teams inquired on both and didn't like the asking price. Both guys were highly paid last year and were not going to receive that amount again whether in FA or in the second year of a contract. Once the reality sets in no one is ponying up big bucks some guys choose to retire.

It takes time for most QBs to catch onto our game. You won't succeed with a numbers game. Reps are crucial to learn our game. The problem is that nearly all the QBs brought in league wide have the physical tools to succeed. It really is a matter of picking up our game, intangibles, and the individual QBs drive to succeed in our league. None of that is readily apparent after throwing a few footballs in practice. Some guys (Dominique Davis for eg) look absolutely dynamite in practice but can't get it to translate when the lights are on. Other guys look like hot garbage in practice but are able to to turn that light switch on in games. It is extremely hard to determine what guy will do what. Not to mention, as Brendan Taman used to say, for every guy you get to sign a contract up here there are 9 others that have turned you down. CFL scouts for the most part just pick the guys with the toolbox, and that seem the most enthusiastic to come up here and play.

His ancestors channel through him. His weird takes are beyond his control.

2 year deals do nothing to increase their chances of employment. If you don't earn your last year's salary there is a good chance you will be replaced unless you are on one of these 3 year guaranteed money deals.

We have 9 teams in this league. QB development is league wide. Maybe one or two legit QBs a year comes thru our entire league loop just because of the small size of our roster availability league wide and the scarcity of legit QBs. We can sit here and bemoan the lack of QB development but hell look around the NFL even, how many teams are developing their own other than teams that were lucky enough to draft franchise guys. Even then. This notion that we must develop our own QB is not the best strategy. Of course, we should try, but really in this league there is absolutely no shame in just signing the most ready guy that hits FA when the time comes. There are only a couple teams in our entire league who are riding QBs they brought in and developed.

I would rather we sign Streveler and let him play on one leg than to sign Masoli and let him play on one leg.

No, only one tells the story of whether, or by how much a player might be over paid in comparison to his peers. TOTAL salary. Any comparison of partial salary attained thru Hard money vs bonuses does not and cannot tell that tale. Using it out of context is either the author of the post not using logic, or the author of a post hoping that the lack of logic is overlooked. If, as you say, both tell the same tale then post up total salary amounts as they are required to prove your point.

Your amounts are a complete red herring. I'm not going to argue ZC wasn't overpaid..he was..but basing it solely on hard money not total contract is not even remotely proof of concept

I believe that when MBT was released by us, someone in the press said an insider had informed them it wasn't due to his football ability. Take that for what you will as to what it means, but after a couple years elsewhere I formed a theory that many share.

Elgersma is up against two far superior 4 down QBs. He literally has zero chance in the UFL of starting. Makes no sense either way other than getting a paycheque while waiting for this mythical NFL interest to come around.

I don't know league wide, but Liam Dobson did the full tour including wanting to play in the USFL before finally arriving here. We had the exact same conversations regarding his want to be here prior to him finally signing as we are having now with Elgersma. I believe we waited a full year before he finally signed. Had the USFL been able to get him a PVisa to play, we likely wouldn't have seen him in 2022 either. I am not sure the UFL is better at getting these visas for NATs now, and that is likely the reason we have not seen Elgersma in the UFL. Dobson had signed a 2 year contract with the USFL that was nullified when they couldn't secure him a PVisa. At the time the USFL contracts only allowed outs to the NFL. That's how close we came to losing a 3rd overall pick. The reason cited for choosing the USFL was that it was only 9k less than the NAT draftee rookie contract but had half the number of games, and wrapped up before NFL TCs. This is the biggest notable draftee I can think of off hand, but I am sure there are others who have taken a similar approach prior to the CFL. Sage Doxtater and Paris Shand are other notable high picks that kicked around the spring leagues prior to the CFL. In Shand's case he just signed his first CFL contract recently.

I get the league's want for cost certainty but it is ridiculous for that quest to be attached to coaching, and NAT draftees. NAT draftees, quality ones, are an issue in this league and having reduced capacity for quality coaching and recruitment just waters down our league's talent base as well. We increased our overall salary cap, yet we can't find a proper wage scale for valuable commodities like coaching and NAT draftees. It's, as you put it, bush. You don't have to compete with the NFL salary wise, but you can't pigeon hole a NAT draftee for 3 years of his career either. Guys will go to the UFL instead or take flyers on weak NFL interest. We've seen it, we are seeing it, it's a problem. It's not imaginary. The top of our draft classes are choosing to chase the NFL despite very weak interest in them. Elgersma is not the first high draft pick we've waited to go through NFL interest then the UFL before coming here.

Elgersma has never indicated that he would only play CFL East. Mulumba had the advantage of having actually made money in the NFL, so the CFL was take it or leave it. Elgersma, if he wants to play professional, has one real choice and no money banked to play games about it. Not the same at all.