Doublezero

This is not a top-tier CFL team. In a way, it's too bad they aren't a total basket case club, in which case O'Shea might be forced to let us see what Terry Wilson has, along with some of the other young players who remain hidden in the wings but who don't get to play.

QB not processing things fast enough. Too many concussions. Sh*tty pass pro isn't helping.

Collaros hit his head on the turf on that sack.

I saw a bit of Mike Reilly there.

Not sure I buy these arguments entirely. If Dru Brown were a Blue Bomber today he'd certainly get the ball to Lawler. Brown has a rifle of an arm. When you say Collaros's very obvious collapse was not predicted, it's noteworthy that ZC's decline began while Brown was still here as backup. Remember that many posters here wanted the club to keep Brown instead of Collaros. Grant, yes, it is amazing to think Bombers braintrust would let the CFLs best returner in past decade just walk. Especially if, as you say, he seemed unavailable from time to time due to injury. Bombers have a history of keeping players around in that status.

I know this has been discussed to death but I still shake my head in disbelief - Bombers let Dru Brown get away after developing him. Also Janarion Grant and Kenny Lawler lost in free agency. What were they thinking?

That KR return for six might be the first since Grant left. And then a punt return for 6 as well. That's a confidence builder.

Janarion who?

Time for the Argos to Get Smoked. Go Blue!

PJ Walker would've been better off giving up the safety on that play instead of fighting for yards on a loss that gives Redblacks the ball on the 1.

Plus Demski and Chris-Ike. It's what they should've done last week. Toronto defence 2nd worst in CFL defending against the rush.

If Packers like him but Carney & Trump don't get a trade deal this week, then Packers might have to pay an extra 35% tariff on Elgersma's contract (since he is imported from Canada) of $294,350 So that could be a factor as to whether they keep him around.

My guess is that ZC may be out for awhile. Just a hunch but he may be dealing with a recurring injury from August 2023, after which his efficiency as a QB began to decline. Right now, six games or 1/3 into 2025 season, ZC has the worst QB efficiency rating among all the 9 regular starting QBs. Collaros also has the highest INT percentage with 8 INTs vs 7 TDs. Colloros's QB efficiency rating isn't just the worst among starters, at 89.1 it is significantly worse than the others. You could argue Zach has the weakest receiver unit in the league which would contribute to this inefficiency. But looking back at 2024 with a better crop of receivers, Collaros threw 19 INT vs 21 TDs - this includes 4 INTS in the GREY CUP and 4 TDs in West Final - which gave Zach the worst INT percentage last year among QBs who started 10 games or more. That is a total of 28 INT versus 28 TDs in the past 25 games in which Collaros has appeared. Yes you can lay some of that on the receivers. But still. This is not to take away from Zach's substantial contribution since he arrived here in 2019 - respect! But the decline in Collaros's performance since around August 11 2023 neck injury vs Elks (when Dru Brown came off the bench to win the game) is clear as day.

Will we ever know who pulled Collaros and why? Osh says it was not performance related. In any case, rookie coordinator might not have cojones to bench a future HOF QB when he ain't performing - for whatever reason. My guess is Collaros is concussed. Strev played with energy and could thrive with more game reps.

You could tell in the pre-game interviews yesterday - O'Shea, Collaros, Jefferson - that they have no confidence and no answers. They know they've got problems.