the watcher

Based on the dumb crap I am hearing from many people that I respect as fairly intelligent people, I think any and all stops is what it's going to take to get vaccine uptake anywhere near herd immunity in many places. Do what you gotta do...if that means incentivizing the process so be it. I don't want us hovering at 65% for a month....do something and get those needles in the arms of those too stupid to do it without incentive.

I think for some, liberty and freedom mean the right to do whatever you want or desire to do . Which is not part of Canadian society and to my knowledge has not been part of any society in the history of mankind. 
 
 

I think for some, liberty and freedom mean the right to do whatever you want or desire to do . Which is not part of Canadian society and to my knowledge has not been part of any society in the history of mankind. 
 
 

I found this interesting, it's basicly about the shifting attitudes on the area where the latest Israeli/ Palestinian conflict flared up.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/13/violence-jerusalem-holy-sites-israeli-right-temple-mount
 
 

I think for some, liberty and freedom mean the right to do whatever you want or desire to do . Which is not part of Canadian society and to my knowledge has not been part of any society in the history of mankind. 
 
 

Isn't it sad that the people crying for FREEDOM are the ones most unwilling to do anything about it by doing someting minor like wearing a mask. Maxime Bernier is a ******. 

not to mention that these people forget, or are ignorant to the fact that there are mechanisms in our constitution that allow the government to suspend personal freedoms

It's about personal freedom at the expense of everyone else's. It's the quickest and easiest way to identify the most loathesome, self centered, stains in our society. 

I think for some, liberty and freedom mean the right to do whatever you want or desire to do . Which is not part of Canadian society and to my knowledge has not been part of any society in the history of mankind. 
 
 

I think for some, liberty and freedom mean the right to do whatever you want or desire to do . Which is not part of Canadian society and to my knowledge has not been part of any society in the history of mankind. 
 
 

These people confuse liberty with license. 

just read this
Stamislaw Lem, why he was an athiest:
"the world appears to me to be put together in such a painful way that I prefer to believe that it was not created ... intentionally"
 

Many people have such a shallow understanding of freedom - it's really sad.  Instead of realizing that our freedoms should make us better humans - they just see them as the right to do whatever they want. 

I can't recall who was worried about the efficacy of the vaccines with delay of the second dose. Was that @SpeedFlex27?
Anyways, here is some good news on that front.
 
 
 

read that the pipeline itself is fine, and was not disabled  at all, and the problem is with the billing system
caused by corprate malfeasance failing to secure adequately.
the american system is a true rube goldberg contraption. 

I found this interesting, it's basicly about the shifting attitudes on the area where the latest Israeli/ Palestinian conflict flared up.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/13/violence-jerusalem-holy-sites-israeli-right-temple-mount
 
 

I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with the Fermi paradox. Science and mathematics say there must be other intelligent life in the universe. The paradox is of course , where is it ?  ONE of the many solutions is that no civilization can get past where we are. That it will always destroy itself or collapse.  I'm leaning more that way all the time.  We seem to be reverting to a less logical, intellectual , science based time. Yet we still maintain the ability for ultimate destruction.

Yeah, I feel like that is coming too. It seems as though (not scientifically supported) that the more stable our food, water and healthcare supplies are, the more people seem to be willing to accept others for who they are. It's all incremental steps forward, then these giant leaps back. 

I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with the Fermi paradox. Science and mathematics say there must be other intelligent life in the universe. The paradox is of course , where is it ?  ONE of the many solutions is that no civilization can get past where we are. That it will always destroy itself or collapse.  I'm leaning more that way all the time.  We seem to be reverting to a less logical, intellectual , science based time. Yet we still maintain the ability for ultimate destruction.

"New details from within Colonial Pipeline have come to light surrounding the decision to shut off supply. Those briefed on the matter have suggested that fuel flows were shut down due to the company's billing system being compromised. Company officials were reportedly concerned that they would not be able to accurately bill customers for fuel delivered, and chose to stop delivery instead.
No evidence available has pointed to the pipeline's operational systems actually being compromised. "
The Drive
corporate side bonus: large Gas price rise.
they win no matter what.
Concerned about metering.
this reminds me of when the usa occupied Iraq.
oil was pumped without metres for years.
 
meters.

I trust nobody with nuclear weapons.

" read that the pipeline itself is fine, and was not disabled  at all, and the problem is with the billing system
caused by corprate malfeasance failing to secure adequately."
The horrible thing is it doesn't matter anymore.  What's real, what the truth is, what the cause is, really doesn't matter. It will be spun to suit the needs of those in power or with a microphone.

" read that the pipeline itself is fine, and was not disabled  at all, and the problem is with the billing system
caused by corprate malfeasance failing to secure adequately."
The horrible thing is it doesn't matter anymore.  What's real, what the truth is, what the cause is, really doesn't matter. It will be spun to suit the needs of those in power or with a microphone.