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6 minutes ago, Stickem said:
Yeah.....we didn't want him back so he could glide by people for us.....That is a huge ? that this club has to ponder and just a bull$hit move that's just part of this whole crappy season so far....Bailey looked good as well ...you know the guy we couldn't afford while we keep guys like Thomas on the roster.....more bullShit
Grant- agree 100%. Unless he straight up wanted out, I have no idea how they couldn’t have worked something out.
Bailey- In hindsight yes, at the time it seemed like the right call just because of how much of the SMS was tied up in receivers.
I’d be curious to know what it would have taken to keep Bailey/Grant vs what they’re paying BA and Thomas.
- Bigblue204, rebusrankin and Stickem
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39 minutes ago, Atomic said:
Yep. Dinwiddie threw for 450 yards and a TD to Romby Bryant. Unfortunately that was probably the highlight of the 2008 season. It eventually led to the firing of Taman and Doug Berry and the hiring of Mike Kelly... Be careful what you wish for...
I’d still say those guys needed to go, they just got the replacement hire way wrong.
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1 minute ago, rebusrankin said:
Late TD to Romby Bryant and I believe Dinwiddie passed for about 400 yards. Fun game.
500 yards and yeah Bryant caught the ball for the winner while falling on his ass with like 2 seconds left.
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9 minutes ago, bearpants said:
I agree with all of this... except BA needs to be out of the lineup, now... he made the team this year based on the 2021 version of himself... and despite not being anywhere near that anymore... he still continues to start
That’s maddening too as it’s such an easy fix. Move Holm to safety where he belongs and use Bridges or Griffen in the HB spot.
I’ve never seen a team so obsessed with pigeonholing guys into the wrong position or role.Remember when it took 2 years to get pre-injury BA into the FS spot and they pissed around with him on the corner?
- rebusrankin and BomberBall.
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21 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:
Not to keep Harping on Kolo, but I don’t think he wants his pro day footage out there.
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7 minutes ago, Atomic said:
The Winnipeg Blue Bombers have started 0-4 after a Grey Cup appearance last season. The veterans they relied on in the past have begun to show their age. They are hoping for a spark from their backup QB at home to carry them to their first victory of the season. The year is 2008 and Ryan Dinwiddie is starting.
It didn’t lead to anything else, but that was an extremely fun game to be at. We hadn’t beat the Stamps without a backup QB playing for them in like 500 games at that point.
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16 minutes ago, Noeller said:
I was feeling hopeful earlier in the week... After a week of people down and complaining on this board I have lost hope once again, and am fully expecting yet another loss.
I'll do my best to enjoy the pre game on the radio with some drinks in the sun and just hope we don't fully embarrass ourselves in front of a home crowd.
The only person I have full faith in is Wade Miller. He doesn't want this to be his legacy, and I believe he'll fix this eventually...
Honestly, I was hopeful until I saw both depth charts.
We just don’t have the playmakers right now to win a close game.
I’m not saying there’s zero chance, but a lot of Bombers will have to have career games every week to get wins right now, whereas most teams can beat us with an average one from most of their guys.
I have faith in Wade, to a lesser extent Walters too, but moreso in the off-season and heading into next year.
Fwiw, last time they had a bad season with this group, they ditched a lot of guys and went hog wild in FA, and that was after a year where MOS did a lot of the same crap we’re upset about now.
I’m thinking more and more this may be a lost year and the best course is to rebuild/buy the team in the off-season to win the home GC, without MOS if necessary. Honestly, I’d be pretty ok with that.
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16 minutes ago, Booch said:
if we actually scheme a plan to suit Streveler as a QB with dual threat ability...and NOT try to make him a pocket passer...I think you will see a really good looking offence...even with all these subs....Now put him out with that mindset with Lawler in the mix...whatever current newbie steps up and yes Lucky....we may have something....Toss Eli in at center first to see if that fix's what ails the oline as well and move forward from there. I think even with the addition of Strev right now alone will make the oline seem more capable....
A smart thing I hope Buck has worked in is sets with Smith and BO in backfield together with Strev and some option..RPO..roll-out stuff where any one of the 3 may get the ball...
Between Brady, Demski and Smith we should have a lot of options in the backfield. I think Smith’s gonna be what we wanted Greg MacRae to be.
I’d like to see MCI in when they’re moving the FB out of the backfield. Feltmate isn’t a threat to do anything with the ball.
Hopefully we see more than Brady up the gut, strev up the gut, PA fake up the gut.
Ideally they mix that misdirection in a little more, and run the PA off that. This line isn’t good enough to drive everyone back like years past. They might have to try to fool the other team sometimes.
Get the other team thinking about it, force them to watch the flats and then let Brady do his A/B gap stuff later in the game.
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We really don’t stack up here in a lot of areas. Ottawas tackles vs our ends is the only positional matchup I like.
I’m struggling to see a win.
Ottawa uses 3 DAs, must be nice..
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3 hours ago, blue85gold said:
ZC won’t even dress, so we’ll get to see what Strev can do. Any ideas what the plan for a third QB is?
The punter
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10 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:
Bomber bias aside it was a clean hit. Pretty much text book. Would I like to see a flag on a play where my QB is injured? Probably. But I can’t justify it as a dirty play.
I didn’t have a problem with where his helmet was so much but the defender drove through and the ball was out. I wouldn’t exactly call it dirty but that’s by the book RTP.
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4 hours ago, Booch said:
actually...I can factually tell the opposite..Winnipeg is an easy sell for many many Americans. That isnt a detriment whatsoever. Tho I can say of recent, I think some players who are looking to make the next step....and by that I mean in the CFL will/are avoiding here as they see that there is not a real legit opp here in some areas...and we have had talent walk away as well due to this..Brown..Bolo...most recently and if Eli wasn't signed thrue 2025 you can bet he would be eploring elsewhere next yr as well...Likely some Dline guys too will be.
Really? That’s awsome, I know that wasn’t always the case.
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13 minutes ago, Booch said:
too much weight was put on that...and you have to admit some luck as well...wasn't some insane coaching that got us there...also we were in a divison with some teams in dissaray and were right crappy...they all have improved...strove to improve...we havn't...we have regressed and clinged hard to past success...the prime example of a recipe for disaster...and Osh the head Chef of this tasty meal
As a fan who had their heart broken too many times to count by this team, an appearance doesn’t really mean piss all to me anymore.Should be going on the drive for 5 right now, and that’s what this fanbase deserves, not standing pat and setting the team back 10 years.
At this point in my life, I’m not satisfied with anything but dominant football and championships. I wish the club still had the same mentality..
1 minute ago, BigBlue said:What I am about to say is deeply symbolic. It is a single "for instance" that represents so very much of what is going on.
We gave up an All-Star right tackle for Salary cap reasons and attempted to replace him with a player that was going to be cut. There was no real competition for that right tackle spot although there are hundreds of American candidates that could have been pursued rigorously.
Did they really think they could coach a below average player into a good player? Would it not be better to bring in a good player and coach and into a great player?
Please tell me what the short-circuit is in this instance and throughout the roster? Is it structural? Is it Biden like? Is it too much hierarchy? Have we gone from great to good? Or are we outright awful just because it's a mystery?There’s also the fact that Winnipeg as a city is a terrible sell for Americans.
We got away with it for a number of years because we were shitkicking everybody and sending guys to the NFL.
Now there’s a glass ceiling in place holding up underperforming vets, a losing streak and a coach who doesn’t play rookies when at all possible. Good luck bringing in top-end prospects.- Piggy 1, rebusrankin, BomberBall. and 2 others
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2 minutes ago, ddanger said:
I'm very late to the party this week. No internet at the lake....Can someone explain how in the world that hit on Zack was not a penalty?? Head down, lead with his helmet.
The officials were absolutely out to lunch the entire game. It was actually only like the 6th worst call.
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3 minutes ago, Mike said:
I look at depth charts every week and I genuinely believe - even healthy - we are one of the most talent poor rosters in the league
Yeah, we’re ******
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32 minutes ago, Mike said:
It’s not PFF, which I’ll at least give credit to for watching games.
Pro Stats Canada or whatever it’s called - the guy who gave Jake a top production rating - literally just box score watches and applies some weirdo formula to spit out content. In fairness to him, he does point out on his social media that “productive” =/= “best” but at the same time, he buries that statement in the middle of a whole word salad where he spends 3000 words to ultimately say “my ratings are just statistic compilation”
Not only Jake, he had the damn punter rated. Like, did that run count as a punting stat in that guy’s formula?
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27 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
That system seems like one that would have gone gaga for Reggie Hunt's 20 tackle game. 20 tackles is impressive but less so when it comes in a game you lose where both running backs go wild.
Yeah agreed. You can tell some of those analytics sites are put together by bean counters who don’t understand football.
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13 minutes ago, Doublezero said:
Self-preservation mode vs warrior mode. Maybe you can expect that at age 36 with Zach's history of injuries. Reminds me last couple of years of Matt Nichols. Could've made plays ... but didn't. I'll never forget one play near the end of Nichols time here. 3rd & 10 game on the line. Nichols drops back and the middle opens up. He runs up about 5-6 yards into the open field then spots a defender moving towards him. He could have got the first down easily but saw potential contact - slid down at 7 yards. Game over.
Exactly. Self-preservation can be subconscious even. A 35+ year old simply isn’t going to take the same risks with their body that somebody in their 20s is, it goes against human nature.
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2 minutes ago, Booch said:
Fox is ral good...powerful...active motor and has actualtechnique....can't get him back fast enough...our pressures have suffered since he been out...tho oodles of Jake isnt helping either
if he actually used as a legit dual threat QB...he will excel
I’d thought so too, but idk. Small sample size I guess. He’s made a few plays, but I now see some of what JBR doesn’t like as well.
I’d still like to see him play next to Woods for the better part of a game instead of JT or Shmeck.
I don’t know when Lawson’s coming back but I think our best interior combo would be him and Woods.
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22 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
To me Woods has that nose spot covered with the Canadians. Adams can kind of line up anywhere.
3 tech just refers to where the guy lines up, like mostly a B gap guy in a very linear sense. It's shifted a lot as focus has moved to pass rush over simple gap control. The occupy 2 OL thing is just a matter of how effective you are and how the other team schemes based on who they view as a threat. In run scheme you're trying to double team across the front and then work up to the linebacker/2nd level, base zone run now leaves backside end out or usually brings a back/receiver to chip/duo block across formation. So if you're any DL vs the run and you can jam up those blocks so that 2nd OL can't break off to get at your LB's that's a pretty big win.
The only teams I see consistently running a gap scheme with run blocking are Hamilton and Montreal, sometimes Sask. Zone is pretty basic now and way more responsive to the fronts you see without having to check at the line.
They are missing really solid rush end and the swing guy. Fayad looks ok, hard to judge anyone off the edge when Jefferson playing so passive to the point he's getting a lot looks where blocking back is just standing there watching him straight away. The opposite end is actually the guy getting the layers of blocking basically since the Ottawa game. Jefferson has a handful of snaps in a given game this season where he fires off and is a threat.
I just watched the recap of last years game in Calgary, zooming in on Fox. You’re not wrong in your criticism. There was a couple of plays where he drove forward and pushed the pocket, he got a sack on one, but on a lot of pass plays he was standing up straight with his arms extended. Kind of looked like Willie. Quite passive.
The specific thing I’m talking about is at 4:54. He stands up straight and the guard handles him easily.
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9 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Thought he was getting moved too easy vs the run against Montreal. He's not explosive, not pushing pocket, not getting pressures not a lot of redeeming qualities there for an interior guy. Adams is extremely explosive, but very raw. He is already impactful and has a way to go. Woods is not getting moved at all, he's where we want him to be so guys aren't busting off 4+ yards before contact and he's also getting pressures. He gives the LB's a real solid chance to do their jobs.
Fox would be an easy chop for me and I'd be bringing in American DL until you find another guy who can really play. My preference would be to look at guys who are more of the 3 tec/weakside end types, 6'1 255-270 body type.
Appreciate the reasoning.
It’s interesting, because I’ve always been enamoured with the 300+ guys that play on the nose.
I’ve felt like they don’t have enough size and power in the middle of the DL for a number of years now. I like the 3-tech guys as rotational pieces, or like you said bigger guys at the weak end spot, but I’d prefer have a nose or 1 tech that plays almost every down and occupies 2 OL. Not Jake Thomas either, an actual one. -
7 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
I'm not sure how much his stock plummeted here (although ST was garbage last year) but I think the coaches cap played a factor. He was here for 7 seasons and MOS has mentioned how the cap can affect their personnel decisions when guys have earned raises but the club isn't in a position to provide them.
We also had Mike Miller's on-field career ending so the club got to see him as a coach in waiting last season creating an opportunity to move on to a (assumedly) cheaper rookie coach.
That all sounds realistic too, it’s just really odd how our ST coverage bottomed out so hard, then the once-lauded co-ordinator gets canned from 2 teams in 6 months.
Blue Bombers - 2024 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
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At the least, Lucky offers equal or greater value to Wilson or Mitchell right?