JohnnyAbonny
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16 minutes ago, Booch said:
if we actually scheme a plan to suit Streveler as a QB with dual threat ability...and NOT try to make him a pocket passer...I think you will see a really good looking offence...even with all these subs....Now put him out with that mindset with Lawler in the mix...whatever current newbie steps up and yes Lucky....we may have something....Toss Eli in at center first to see if that fix's what ails the oline as well and move forward from there. I think even with the addition of Strev right now alone will make the oline seem more capable....
A smart thing I hope Buck has worked in is sets with Smith and BO in backfield together with Strev and some option..RPO..roll-out stuff where any one of the 3 may get the ball...
Between Brady, Demski and Smith we should have a lot of options in the backfield. I think Smith’s gonna be what we wanted Greg MacRae to be.
I’d like to see MCI in when they’re moving the FB out of the backfield. Feltmate isn’t a threat to do anything with the ball.
Hopefully we see more than Brady up the gut, strev up the gut, PA fake up the gut.
Ideally they mix that misdirection in a little more, and run the PA off that. This line isn’t good enough to drive everyone back like years past. They might have to try to fool the other team sometimes.
Get the other team thinking about it, force them to watch the flats and then let Brady do his A/B gap stuff later in the game.
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We really don’t stack up here in a lot of areas. Ottawas tackles vs our ends is the only positional matchup I like.
I’m struggling to see a win.
Ottawa uses 3 DAs, must be nice..
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3 hours ago, blue85gold said:
ZC won’t even dress, so we’ll get to see what Strev can do. Any ideas what the plan for a third QB is?
The punter
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10 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:
Bomber bias aside it was a clean hit. Pretty much text book. Would I like to see a flag on a play where my QB is injured? Probably. But I can’t justify it as a dirty play.
I didn’t have a problem with where his helmet was so much but the defender drove through and the ball was out. I wouldn’t exactly call it dirty but that’s by the book RTP.
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4 hours ago, Booch said:
actually...I can factually tell the opposite..Winnipeg is an easy sell for many many Americans. That isnt a detriment whatsoever. Tho I can say of recent, I think some players who are looking to make the next step....and by that I mean in the CFL will/are avoiding here as they see that there is not a real legit opp here in some areas...and we have had talent walk away as well due to this..Brown..Bolo...most recently and if Eli wasn't signed thrue 2025 you can bet he would be eploring elsewhere next yr as well...Likely some Dline guys too will be.
Really? That’s awsome, I know that wasn’t always the case.
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13 minutes ago, Booch said:
too much weight was put on that...and you have to admit some luck as well...wasn't some insane coaching that got us there...also we were in a divison with some teams in dissaray and were right crappy...they all have improved...strove to improve...we havn't...we have regressed and clinged hard to past success...the prime example of a recipe for disaster...and Osh the head Chef of this tasty meal
As a fan who had their heart broken too many times to count by this team, an appearance doesn’t really mean piss all to me anymore.Should be going on the drive for 5 right now, and that’s what this fanbase deserves, not standing pat and setting the team back 10 years.
At this point in my life, I’m not satisfied with anything but dominant football and championships. I wish the club still had the same mentality..
1 minute ago, BigBlue said:What I am about to say is deeply symbolic. It is a single "for instance" that represents so very much of what is going on.
We gave up an All-Star right tackle for Salary cap reasons and attempted to replace him with a player that was going to be cut. There was no real competition for that right tackle spot although there are hundreds of American candidates that could have been pursued rigorously.
Did they really think they could coach a below average player into a good player? Would it not be better to bring in a good player and coach and into a great player?
Please tell me what the short-circuit is in this instance and throughout the roster? Is it structural? Is it Biden like? Is it too much hierarchy? Have we gone from great to good? Or are we outright awful just because it's a mystery?There’s also the fact that Winnipeg as a city is a terrible sell for Americans.
We got away with it for a number of years because we were shitkicking everybody and sending guys to the NFL.
Now there’s a glass ceiling in place holding up underperforming vets, a losing streak and a coach who doesn’t play rookies when at all possible. Good luck bringing in top-end prospects. -
2 minutes ago, ddanger said:
I'm very late to the party this week. No internet at the lake....Can someone explain how in the world that hit on Zack was not a penalty?? Head down, lead with his helmet.
The officials were absolutely out to lunch the entire game. It was actually only like the 6th worst call.
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3 minutes ago, Mike said:
I look at depth charts every week and I genuinely believe - even healthy - we are one of the most talent poor rosters in the league
Yeah, we’re ******
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32 minutes ago, Mike said:
It’s not PFF, which I’ll at least give credit to for watching games.
Pro Stats Canada or whatever it’s called - the guy who gave Jake a top production rating - literally just box score watches and applies some weirdo formula to spit out content. In fairness to him, he does point out on his social media that “productive” =/= “best” but at the same time, he buries that statement in the middle of a whole word salad where he spends 3000 words to ultimately say “my ratings are just statistic compilation”
Not only Jake, he had the damn punter rated. Like, did that run count as a punting stat in that guy’s formula?
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27 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
That system seems like one that would have gone gaga for Reggie Hunt's 20 tackle game. 20 tackles is impressive but less so when it comes in a game you lose where both running backs go wild.
Yeah agreed. You can tell some of those analytics sites are put together by bean counters who don’t understand football.
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13 minutes ago, Doublezero said:
Self-preservation mode vs warrior mode. Maybe you can expect that at age 36 with Zach's history of injuries. Reminds me last couple of years of Matt Nichols. Could've made plays ... but didn't. I'll never forget one play near the end of Nichols time here. 3rd & 10 game on the line. Nichols drops back and the middle opens up. He runs up about 5-6 yards into the open field then spots a defender moving towards him. He could have got the first down easily but saw potential contact - slid down at 7 yards. Game over.
Exactly. Self-preservation can be subconscious even. A 35+ year old simply isn’t going to take the same risks with their body that somebody in their 20s is, it goes against human nature.
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2 minutes ago, Booch said:
Fox is ral good...powerful...active motor and has actualtechnique....can't get him back fast enough...our pressures have suffered since he been out...tho oodles of Jake isnt helping either
if he actually used as a legit dual threat QB...he will excel
I’d thought so too, but idk. Small sample size I guess. He’s made a few plays, but I now see some of what JBR doesn’t like as well.
I’d still like to see him play next to Woods for the better part of a game instead of JT or Shmeck.
I don’t know when Lawson’s coming back but I think our best interior combo would be him and Woods.
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22 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
To me Woods has that nose spot covered with the Canadians. Adams can kind of line up anywhere.
3 tech just refers to where the guy lines up, like mostly a B gap guy in a very linear sense. It's shifted a lot as focus has moved to pass rush over simple gap control. The occupy 2 OL thing is just a matter of how effective you are and how the other team schemes based on who they view as a threat. In run scheme you're trying to double team across the front and then work up to the linebacker/2nd level, base zone run now leaves backside end out or usually brings a back/receiver to chip/duo block across formation. So if you're any DL vs the run and you can jam up those blocks so that 2nd OL can't break off to get at your LB's that's a pretty big win.
The only teams I see consistently running a gap scheme with run blocking are Hamilton and Montreal, sometimes Sask. Zone is pretty basic now and way more responsive to the fronts you see without having to check at the line.
They are missing really solid rush end and the swing guy. Fayad looks ok, hard to judge anyone off the edge when Jefferson playing so passive to the point he's getting a lot looks where blocking back is just standing there watching him straight away. The opposite end is actually the guy getting the layers of blocking basically since the Ottawa game. Jefferson has a handful of snaps in a given game this season where he fires off and is a threat.
I just watched the recap of last years game in Calgary, zooming in on Fox. You’re not wrong in your criticism. There was a couple of plays where he drove forward and pushed the pocket, he got a sack on one, but on a lot of pass plays he was standing up straight with his arms extended. Kind of looked like Willie. Quite passive.
The specific thing I’m talking about is at 4:54. He stands up straight and the guard handles him easily.
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9 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Thought he was getting moved too easy vs the run against Montreal. He's not explosive, not pushing pocket, not getting pressures not a lot of redeeming qualities there for an interior guy. Adams is extremely explosive, but very raw. He is already impactful and has a way to go. Woods is not getting moved at all, he's where we want him to be so guys aren't busting off 4+ yards before contact and he's also getting pressures. He gives the LB's a real solid chance to do their jobs.
Fox would be an easy chop for me and I'd be bringing in American DL until you find another guy who can really play. My preference would be to look at guys who are more of the 3 tec/weakside end types, 6'1 255-270 body type.
Appreciate the reasoning.
It’s interesting, because I’ve always been enamoured with the 300+ guys that play on the nose.
I’ve felt like they don’t have enough size and power in the middle of the DL for a number of years now. I like the 3-tech guys as rotational pieces, or like you said bigger guys at the weak end spot, but I’d prefer have a nose or 1 tech that plays almost every down and occupies 2 OL. Not Jake Thomas either, an actual one. -
7 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
I'm not sure how much his stock plummeted here (although ST was garbage last year) but I think the coaches cap played a factor. He was here for 7 seasons and MOS has mentioned how the cap can affect their personnel decisions when guys have earned raises but the club isn't in a position to provide them.
We also had Mike Miller's on-field career ending so the club got to see him as a coach in waiting last season creating an opportunity to move on to a (assumedly) cheaper rookie coach.
That all sounds realistic too, it’s just really odd how our ST coverage bottomed out so hard, then the once-lauded co-ordinator gets canned from 2 teams in 6 months.
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10 hours ago, Goalie said:
Collaros doesn’t get pressured all game. 8 of 12 55 yards. No td passes in 6 games now is it? It’s not just the centre.
Oh yeah he does lol , and he was last year and the year before a lot too. The escapability is gone now, that’s the difference.
Noticed after his ankle got buggered in the 22 WF he started turtling in the pocket a lot more.
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8 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:
Could be his job was doing exactly what O'Shea told him to do, he was always within ear shot, without those instructions maybe he had little to contribute.
I’d speculate complacency. Everyone figured out his schemes and he didn’t/couldn’t switch it up.
You don’t get 7 years up here and a long NFL run previously without having something, it’s usually more of a matter of not being able or willing to adapt, or a personality issue that leads to these situations.
Could be a personal or health issue we’re not aware of too. It’s strange that someone’s success at their job would just plummet like that over 2 years, in multiple settings, for no apparent reason.
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8 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Just reacting to your earlier comment, "Could be. Sometimes you work with the qbs you have-like the Als with Fajardo." To me, it seemed like you made a backhanded comment right in the nose. I'm happy for the guy. I don't hold it against him just because he played for the Riders. There's a few people that want him to fail just because he was a Rider. BTW, not saying you feel that way.
I talked an ungodly amount of **** about Fajardo from 19-last year, and doubted him going into this season.
I’ll eat some crow, he’s playing very well on a very good team and looks to have improved the specific aspects of his game we were all knocking.
I think it’s got a lot to do with having the one of the best QBs in modern CFL history working with him.
I don’t think @Mark H. was attacking you Al. I read his point more like, teams can work with a QB who has the tools, that some thought had plateaued and in Strevelers context, he could be one of those QBs.
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24 minutes ago, BaconNBigBlue said:
Streveler hasn't really had a proper chance to prove himself. Spot play here and there doesn't a QB make. He needs to run the offense for a couple games to see what he has. Dru hasn't lit it up in Ottawa yet he was the second coming here!
Agreed, we’ve seen him make the throws, he can hit that wide out that makes or breaks CFL QBs.
It’s the consistent decision making and reading Defences that Strev still has to prove. I’m optimistic he can. I’m less optimistic in the offence they’re running in itself.
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7 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:
I don't know if this is true but I heard DT talking about eating 8-10 hotdogs in a row, what in god's name would possess anyone to eat more than one?
They’re good?
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2 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
I don't think Fox is much of a player.
Adams looking good but invisible last week.
Haba too is pretty meh.
See what Garbutt has soon hopefully.
Woods is looking like a solid nose. Occupies gap, occupies blocks, make some plays when they are there but most importantly does his job.
What don’t you like about Fox? Other than he got hurt after a game and a half
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4 hours ago, Colin Unger said:
Very pleased with the Garbutt is practicing. Based on track record this organization will only very sparingly hold onto a non vet who gets injured in camp. I know very little about this guy but they must be pretty high on him.
I only know what I’ve read and seen in his highlight reel. Looks very explosive and dominant against the run, but like I said it was highlight tape and really the ACC isn’t what it used to be.
Big school (VT) Seems like he fell through the cracks, looked like he had some later round NFL draft interest. Little on the smaller side for an end in the NFL, his frame doesn’t look as big as his listed size.Fwiw he had good speed testing numbers at the combine but a really crappy vertical.
High motor in college, nicknamed “Mr Lunchpail”.
From his highlight tape, it looks like the yard off the ball will benefit. He seems like he’d get swallowed up by NFL tackles fairy easily, quickness can negate a lot of that up here.
Ranked in some obscure stats like TFL per game, ACC lineman of the week, Top Edge rusher against the run (weekly) on PFF.
Bunch of random info, not a lot of reports on him.
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2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:
Walters and MOS are both to blame. Oh and Wade a little because he stopped giving free hotdogs to Doug Brown and @DTonOB.
If anyone at the club reads this, you should be ashamed of yourselves. It’s hotdog season, come on! Hook our radio guys up!
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