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Its a bird, its a plane, its a good NI WR in blue!! never mind the bollocks. He was easily the best in his position last year. By a huge margin too. Not to mention tony burnett was a track star at USC and showed incredible wheels in his time, especially on teams. He lacks the natural LB instincts, and considerable polish but the last thing he lacks is any of the physical abilities to play any lber position. I question how much of our front 7 struggles are personnel and how much is the system. Id look long and hard for an upgrade for bass. But still love to have bass back in camp. Wild was a lot better pre injury. Im sure we will bring about 20 Lbers to camp any way.
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wbbfan replied to Bomber_fanaddict's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That is for damned sure. In the years before this group took over running the bombers it was such a gong show. I feel worse about the mike kelly / mac era then i do about the reinebold era. Some thing i never thought possible. Would be great for the league if that mess got straightened out. Having laughing stock franchises is never good. That said im ok if the rider fans suffer a bit longer. -
yes because 162m dollars is cheap, which is 8th highest for 2017. (thats total payroll) And they are still signing guys. Top 10 pay roll in all of baseball the previous 3 years. How do the jets compare? Previous to last year the bombers were operating considerably under the cap while teams like MTL spent like drunk sailors. Edwin also took less money then the jays offered.
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wbbfan replied to Bomber_fanaddict's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
there is no comparison between signing willy with the extreme lack of time played, and nichols who has had a ton more starts. He certainly does have a point about the turn overs and short field. Id even add the record number of FGs we kicked. Going off how the riders franchise has run under its current regime, I cant see any reason to believe they would find even a league average QB. The guy is a homer writing trash. Mildly better then pederson. -
justin dunk has the salaries different, but goes more in depth in terms of whats base and whats bonus. If the 2nd sentence you see i say his tweets were part of that article. But the article it self wasnt by him. And doesnt go off his numbers. By no means would i consider him a good source of league wide coverage/information. Not like dunk.
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i dont put much faith in lawless reporting salaries, but then he also reported lower salaries in the post. do you think they doubled collaros salary in the middle of the season when he was hurt and locked up?
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He was never even a great defender, he was a great arm with decent range before he started to decline. Last year he was border line a liability with the great arm. Its beyond dumb to intend to run him out every day at rf.
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http://www.tsn.ca/eskimos-sign-qb-reilly-to-contract-extension-1.471943 only one on that list making more is mike reily. (drew willy re negotiated recently). More then jennings, lulay, blm, collaros, slightly more then harris, more then ricky ray.
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bryan ahyat was around for ages too. doesnt mean he can step in and contribute. Well they gave nichols elite pay, and as base. Really wish we had given him good starter money with bonuses to pay him elite money if he produced at an elite level. its sooo much money for a guy who struggles with deep balls, and leaves us kicking a record number of field goals. And in a market where no one else is probable to give him that kind of money.
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one thing is for sure, we cant be as bad at getting pressure and stopping the run in the front 7 next year.
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that first part is a whole lot of truth. I wouldnt take under performances in mtl too seriously. Stafford while nichols was with edm played 7 games (out of 23 for the season+gc run), had 31 catches (51 for the season with play offs) 410 yards (832) 5 tds(10 for the season) 4 games with back to back tds. So his production was much great with nichols. Itll be interesting to see if that chemistry still exists. Wrs seem to tend to flock together. Rather then a this is my team kind of mentality. But who knows its all up in the air right now. Im hoping he is back.
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^ smith for montreals 12th straight up would be robbery. What pick does toronto have left?
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he was. and he is. But, old hitters who still have fast hands can still rake. Bautista's problem isnt that he has lost that trigger speed or ability to turn on a pitch. which is why there is reason to hope that he can still mash. No one was willing to give him the long term mega bucks deal. hes old. the jays are willing to give him that. he started out way too high and the market passed him by. Doesnt mean he isnt a guy more then worth having around for 1-3 years. age yes, wear and tear isnt as bad as most sluggers his age. Strained shoulder/knee/toe arent the type of thing that shuts down a hitter for multiple years. And the shoulder was furthest back now. This is still a guy who hit over .800 ops last year. and well into the 900s over the previous 6. If he plays most of the season chances of him coming in .750 (which is still really good) and 30/100 are tiny. Hes perfect to have protecting josh donaldson. Hes 36 frank thomas was 38, hit .857 ops 26hr 95 rbi in 155g. Bautista hit .817 22/69 in 116g. The jays cant be done yet. But this is still a good pick up/bring back.
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last year was an uncharacteristic awful year. You arent paying him for last year, you are paying him for the potential MVP he could be. That said i really hope they move him to DH and morales to 1b.
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Im all for gambling with depth picks. Especially with how deep we are at NI. Hindsight is 20/20 of course but look back at last year after loffler was about that time. If we can identify the drop off spot well enough and it isnt pushed down by sliding prospects some futures picks are good to have. But out high picks we certainly need to continue to try to get guys who will be on the roster for this years TC. That development time for young NIs is massive. Im not ready to sell the farm or much on franklin. If we miss out on glenn, or another similar vet who can step in to back up the most id want to give up is spot swapping. like our first for a 2-3 franklin and a future 2-3. Which has about a .00000000000000001% chance of happening.
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no joke. When you factor in money I dont know how you could take him over stafford or gurley. Especially when those guys can bring a change of pace to our WR core. I really hope denmark is back. Id rank our wrs like this Dressler>>denmark>darvin adams>>>gurley/smith/stafford.
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aside from his last game against BC, id say he was awful. His health could be a question. Did he come back while still banged up and not recover till late? Small guys allways concern people more when hurt. but playing 35 games over 3 seasons doesnt help that complexion. Is he just a really poor fit for what we do offensively? He isnt arland bruce, the shake n bake cut back make things happen after the catch in traffic type. Hes more the catch and run or break free and make a big down field catch guy. And our offense doesnt do the deep pass much, or well. With our system and his health at best i have trouble seeing him out produce guys like stafford, or gurley. And I dont think he has a chance at denmark, dressler, or darvin adams. So i wouldnt take him over those top 3, and paying him top dollar to hope he can be no 4 when we allready are as tight to the cap as we have been in recent years seems like a poor choice. especially when stafford/gurley will/would be cheaper hands down. Id rather see that money sunk into a DE or LBer. At his age, im sure he isnt done or close to it. And his best football could well be a head of him (if it isnt no football maybe ahead of him very quickly) but I dont like the risk/reward of that here.
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Thats true and doesnt ott have a bunch of FA wrs? It is a deep wr fa group though. He could be a knee jerk day, we didnt get any one and we gotta fill this spot signing. For some one like montreal. I dont think any one would give us more then a very low pick / neg lister for smith.
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gurley and stafford are pretty interchangeable imop. Id love to see a deep veteran core of wrs brought into camp to fight for spots. If its a fight, smith/stafford would be fighting for spots. not denmark, if he is brought back. Stafford, smith, and gurley are guys who have shown flashes but not sustained it. Little on taking the next step forward. denmark showed the ability to take the next step forward last year and in his career year. Mcduffie showed some flashes at wr and returner certainly hope hes back, so long as hes reasonably priced. It would be expensive, but going into camp with dressler, denmark, adams, smith, gurley, stafford, and mcduffie would be amazing. That said a ton of money could be saved on smith and probably gurley too.
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this is a done deal now?! In pro football especially in the front office, you dont get relax time. Certainly not in the off season. If nichols is signed then he still needs to get a vet that can start in as back up. Be that glenn or some one else. If we go into next year with nichols and the usual suspects backing him up thats a bad situation. When thats done we are in a great spot. Tons of scouting down south and the draft to be done, cfl fa etc. Assuming nichols is signed i think priorities looks some thing like #1 back up qb #2 draft scouting / pick trade talks #3 Scouting/signing down south for guys this year and beyond #4 Re signing our guys. #5 cfl fa (dont see us having a lot of money to make much of a splash) I think a big thing is taking a long hard look at guys like ryan smith, keeping, and neufeld. A lot of money tied up in guys with little on the field production. Smith is probably our 4/5th best imp wr if we bring back gurley and denmark. If every one in the wr core plays their best i still dont think hes better then no. 3-4. Keeping and neufeld would have to be considered long shots to come out of camp next year with a big role. And one kinda pushes out the other. internal moves like that are probably the hardest but most important.
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wbbfan replied to Bomber_fanaddict's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
no joke. The riders couldnt be further off what we have right now. They are in the same position we held LAST year. Only they dont have the NI depth. and we know they dont have a qb. Or a Defense. The riders arent close to what montreal has. -
If he comes cheap probably. If denmark isnt brought back his chances are better. but id rather have denmark. I would love to have denmark gurley adams and dressler next year.
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great to have darvin adams back in blue. hope he can stay healthy this year and pick up where he left off.
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wbbfan replied to Bomber_fanaddict's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
our ol finally turns around and hes gone xD. poor poor bastard. But he did turn around the raiders ol when they were browns esq bad. -
you mean the part where he lost his starter job? His play when harris got hurt was awful. Especially the blow out loss to mtl and the loss to TO. Then also against the green riders in another game ott loss to the other cellar dweller in the cfl in 2016. He had a bad year up and down till the play offs. How many times again did he lose the starter job last year? 3? Certainly nothing even close to his 30 esq year his first back in calgary as the starter.