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You have a point, the higher the level the better chance a team messes it up. Especially with the ladder nature of drafts. You’re 100% right that QBs get a development path few other positions do in football. virtually ever qb gets a high volume of chances, while few get quality. MacLeod bethel Thompson is a good example. Barely any hs or college snaps as qb1. But like 10 nfl teams, cfl pr cut and picked up with no snaps up here. Usually when highly talented guys flop out fast, they have serious deficiencies. Baseball is still figuring out how best to use and develop guys, with an insane amount of pro infrastructure. Out side of speeding guys up to the pro level of game play and playbook sizes it’s about not messing guys up when done right. This is why I think nfl tc for Elgersma is great. His primary need is just that to jump the gap from cis to pro level. You’re right on the money. Especially in the modern cfl. The level of talent and refinement we see in qb prospects is as far behind down south as I’ve ever seen. So teams get stuck on guys who they think have a tangible or intangible that can over come the deficiencies. Weve passed the tipping point where QBs coming up know more about qbing than their coaches. And they know it. Coaching is softer and QBs are harder. Up here it’s a lot of former position players rising up the coaching ranks too. The long maligned Canadian qb role has left us out the generation of qb coaches and former qb oc/hc. Teams at all levels fall in love with raw arm talent and athleticism. At the sub pro levels you see so many kids just take over games with that, and you get swept up in it. If you can’t manufacture it, you fake it and hope. Yeah the top tier oc minds in college and hs I see down south aren’t excelling with the best qb talent. They are finding kids with strong intangibles, who are able to fit rpo and their specific brand of niches. Having a system that can run rpos fast and efficiently is way better than having a world beating arm. Some guys like Maas have done a good job of covering up some qb deficiencies and making their worst throws the easiest in his system. But mostly teams really struggle to offset their QBs skill set. Every one is looking for the same perfect arm that can do every thing instead of setting up for the easiest repeatable success. Rpos that set up catch and run plays are much easier. You still need to threaten and be able to hit home runs, but no one sustains offensive out put based around the deep ball. You can stretch the field a lot by going side line to side line, and back field to mid range.

Brown took big steps forward from his first game action (where he was brutal) to the next camp. I mean he took leaps and bounds at every step too. I’m also not sure he’s a product of our development at all. We get credit for giving him time and having patience for sure. But I think he developed through his own work. I think he would’ve developed most places if he got to stick around. I think it’s very arguable that many successful QBs across all levels develop due to their own work ethic and intangibles. I think far more teams ruin QBs than ever actually develop guys.

That’s one of the biggest hurdles to developing QBs. You can only do so much with out sacrificing games. Some guys hit that point of diminishing returns faster or slower. But they all hit it and you never know how far they will go after. Teams gotta be smart with trash time and use it like the high value time it is, for back ups. Yeah, move just doesn’t make much sense. I believe we could wave him before the season say next year and save that money still, what ever isn’t guaranteed. But this move shows we won’t move off him as long as he’s willing to play, even if he can’t get it done any more.

100%. I hated it soo much. Two idjits using mechanical/pneumatic horns as close to the mic’s as possible. Making it about them self and making the tv experience terrible. If a big chunk of the crowd was doing it with the horns you blow in then I’d say credit to them and live with it.

I think this start is that big shot for him, the guys who stick around and make the next camp seem to get this shot. I do think he’s a long shot to make the ar. I think sterns is a real sleeper to stick and make a niche for him self. I think white is gonna win the spot if he stays healthy. Hes so much in the mold we like.

yep. https://3downnation.com/2025/05/23/silence-at-last-montreal-alouettes-ban-air-horns-for-2025-season/ About time. Sounds like the cfl put their foot down and are holding the ALs responsible to the standard held across the league.

Qft.

It’d take a lot for me to say he’s earned more than 400k even at this point. Im worried about strevy from what I’ve seen. But pre season performance is worth 10x more than camp. So hopefully he has a good pre season. Similarly, zachs camp could evaporate with live rounds and hits. I’ve got that familiar sinking feeling when it comes to roster management out of this camp. The big saving grace this year is going to be the young athletic depth we’ve amassed. We should’ve moved off Zach with brown. At this point I think we will run with zach till he physically can’t lace em up any more or quits.

We might have used a bunch of the extended salary cap to front load two years for him so he’d be dirt cheap next year and after. Still wouldn’t love that move, but I could see some logic to it. Especially since they are married to Zach. (Who has had a really good camp)

Who gives a 37 year old qb coming off his worse season in years a future contract extension, before the start of the current season? Woof this is ugly and going to get worse. Even if zach is mop quality this year, it screams of “he plays till he gets carted off for good.” This would need to be the most team friendly deal ever to make any sense. 100% he’s the best blocker of the new WRs. TBH, Dmitch is the least engaged in blocking. Sterns is significantly better, but he’s one of those little blood n guts guys like dressler was. If sterns gets in games, every one is gonna fall in love with that kid. Yep should be very low guaranteed higher incentives.

He hasn’t started the step up yet from what I’ve seen and heard. Which is very disappointing to me. He could still do it. The first pre season game is pretty much the latest time he can start really showing out. Mos seems pretty high on white too.

No sight id rather see Does happen yeah. Guys play through every kind of injury. Not usually for to long though. I remember Harris playing hurt at a time he could barely walk back to the line. Then got pulled after a couple snaps.

I do agree, it is a real small sample so far though. I look forward to seeing him in pre season. Tbh sheahan looks better when he isn’t being rushed at game speed too. I’m very optimistic, this could be our best global draft yet.

Real good prospect as a rb, but i don’t think hes the kr/wr super sub guy

They do want hang time, they don’t thing highly of deep punts. Accuracy and control are foremost. Then hang time. Depth/leg power is pretty much last.

Give him a body guard so no rookie dbs make a terrible mistake

Qft. likely has to be able to out angle sheahan and have the depth control to optimize for shorter punts. From the bit I’ve seen it’d be an easy decision based on the frequent shanks we saw last year. At the same time, with the incredible talent in Evans leg combined with having just turned 24 and just strived up here, he should at worst be guaranteed a pr spot for a while.

Early on but he’s got a big leg.

Huge.

Realistically, if Lawson was out we don’t need the ni dl starter. Full imp dl would be nasty too.

Agree. I think Lofton is on the verge already of being passed by both vanterpool and Randolph. Those two side by side on the right would be great. Yeah and honestly his upside at this point is not far off ayers floor.

He actually is fast as a dt, and he is not a pro nose. Hes a 3 tech here. He does have the punch move, bull rush or power to play nose.

Myron Mitchell was a guy they liked out of camp last year too. Maybe he took a step, if he’s our best wr right now we are pooched. What’s more concerning to me is we are not cycling guys out and air lifting new ones in. Its a hard year for WRs in camp, with the system change and need to prep two starting QBs for week 2 and 3. From what I’ve seen none of the QBs are where I would’ve hoped and expected. It’s a hard camp for them too. New system, no Jackson in yet, bunch of changes on the ol/rec core. Week 1, lots of rust to shake off and new guys to gel with. If we are gonna start off better than last year, we need a better performance this coming week and a to see a little some thing out of the offence in pre season game 1.

That’s how I see it generally for starters. Though I will say tony jones does look improved this year so far. If he keeps it up he and Jonathon jones will be a battle. I wouldn’t di kyrie. They’ve been playing him at mac in camp this week, I think they might seriously consider that and cut a good young backer sadly. I wouldn’t di a wil/Mac this year.

Cams been hurt once and is still recovering. You can’t say he can’t stay on the field.