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If your request is literal, I am all for it.

O'Shea's track record offers much proof that he is unwilling or incapable of learning from his mistakes.

Oh yeah, he's gonna change. Don't be stupid. As far as you calling me, negative? Check the mirror, pal.

Glass half full view is that maybe O'Shea having one foot halfway out the door this offseason is very positive for the next few season(s). If we had just quietly re-signed him and Walters to extensions, they probably just happily carry on with the status quo and continue the decline. I'm hoping that O'Shea going out and interviewing and getting some input from other teams lit a fire under his ass to come back here and do a serious re-load with a fresh outlook and new ideas.

Semantics. He played most of his pro career there and grew up 300 km away. I think you get my point that he chose to stay here over the team he played over 8 seasons for and coached.

Brady IMO is already an overpay.....he is a NI star and a very very good RB, a hometown guy, a really likable guy that fricken saves dogs....but.... If someone else wants to outbid us for him, and build a roster around a NI RB, then honestly let them.....We can't afford to hurt the betterment of the overall roster...same way I felt about Ford last year minus the intangibles....but this year we need help along both lines and that doesn't come cheap....

Im not sure about losing Demski or Olivera, after all how many were convinced that OShea and Walters would be back. I think its more about what happens with the OC position that effects Brady and what we are willing to pay.

We don’t need a superstar coach, we need one who can competently manage the clock, roster, challenges and coaching staff. Mos, is proven with a historically dominant roster. We are seeing what he can do with a roster that isn’t one of the best ever. And it’s an awful lot like what we saw before the run. You’re right that proven coaches are a rare valuable commodity in the cfl. Especially ones you can win with currently. I didn’t have much hope for that for next year. Next to none when dinwiddie went to ott. The hope was we could atleast start to build back to being a good team. That has mostly evaporated. Maybe if we hadn’t seen the same thing for two off seasons in a row. Like I said, i’d be thrilled if i’m wrong and walters/mos really turn over a new leaf. But I sure wouldn’t bet on it. If they do, I’ll happily eat some crow. Probably be very busy resigning the guys who no one else wants to sign lol. I’m glad walters will be back running our draft. The canadian depth will likely be a bright spot for us next year.

Translation: good luck coach, we believe in you.

I know it's fun to think a new coach behind door number two may turn out to be a new superstar coach, but in this case you're hoping that that guy could someday wind up as good as Osh. Good coaches with a proven track record would generally seem a better bet than a new hire. Also to sit here in November and speak so confidently in the roster or staff is something neither of us could possibly know.

If Walters sits on his hands under his fat ass & does nothing again in free agency, we're cooked.

My son Tyler texted me this morning about the shooting of a former college coach at Laney College in Oakland, California. He was very upset & was questioning what is happening to society. Turns out the text was about former Laney College Head Coach John Beam. Tyler played against Beam & Laney College when he was at College Of The Siskiyous as they were in the same conference. Beam saw Tyler throw at a private qb workout on the field at Laney College back in 2011. They talked about him attending Laney College but Oakland is an economically depressed city & the campus at laney is right in the middle of that urbal blight. It's a dangerous place. Poverty, homelessness, drug use & crime was & still is very high right around the campus. When we were at the campus, the police came into the stadium to clear out people living in tents under the stands. Laney did not offer on campus residences so we'd have to have found somewhere for Tyler to live in the Hood, No way he was going there. Then Tyler saw the Netflix series last Chance U that featured John Beam & Laney College. He saw what kind of coach & leader that he was. When he found out Beam was shot dead, I could tell he was very upset. Rest In Peace, John Beam. For everything you did for others, you didn't deserve what happened to you. What a shitty world we live in. https://www.cp24.com/news/sports/2025/11/14/john-beam-beloved-former-football-coach-featured-in-netflixs-last-chance-u-dies-after-shooting-on-california-campus/

Except the past doesn’t dictate the future, and none of the rosters/staffs he got to above .500 with are walking in the door for next year. Would hiring buono instantly make us significantly better because his record is better all time? I dont know that we lose both, but I am sure we will lose some people we don’t want to. Maybe in more than one area as well.

All right, Brady, not sure he comes back or chases more $ but Demski?

And FYI ,I dont see BO or Demski back,cuz of this.

So, so right,

Problem for oshea is they peaked 5 seasons ago and it's been a slow slide since then.

This is something that I think is overlooked overall. The best way to win Grey Cups is to be good consistently. That means consistent playoff appearances and good or great spots in them. The Bombers during the Cup drought had the occasional really good or great time. They just never had a sustained run of success, so all it took was bad kicks or bad luck and we were screwed. Then back to the CFL basement eventually. Rinse and repeat. If we are continually really good under Osh (which we have), we will be competing for Cups. That's a pretty darn good deal.

Osh is 7th among all time winning head coaches. Seventh. To bet that the Bombers could find a better head coach then him would require an all time stroke of luck. There is definitely an argument to say his time has or will need to come to an end. I personally thought he was going to Toronto. I am mostly just pointing out that he is not nearly as stupid as some here would have you believe.

By any measure for the last 6 years we have been the best performing team on and off the field. Both OShea and Walters deserve to be back

Note to Walters and MOS-Ie roster

certainly the attitude doesn’t. I mean. How do you know. Must suck to be so negative all the time.

This would work if we haven’t made the playoffs 9 straight seasons. How awful. Turns out the 10 of you on here are the minority.

I said before and I'll say it again... Dickie was granted the opportunity to fix a FAR WORSE mess, and he hasn't earned half of what Osh has. We'll know PDQ whether or not Walters and Osh have learned their lessons. I am forever the optimist and am already looking forward to what should be a very productive offseason...