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Jake Thomas at every position. We were really mediocre overall, and one of the worst bomber offences in over a decade. Overachieved win-wise, which is kind of crazy. The offence will be better from addition by subtraction. How that will translate to points scored is up in the air. Never know with a new OC/system. Hasn't Condells teams had red zone issues? Daniels didn't do anything in practice either. He should start out on the PR to develop some. Jake Thomas at every position. We were really mediocre overall, and one of the worst bomber offences in over a decade. Overachieved win-wise, which is kind of crazy. The offence will be better from addition by subtraction. How that will translate to points scored is up in the air. Never know with a new OC/system. Hasn't Condells teams had red zone issues? Daniels didn't do anything in practice either. He should start out on the PR to develop some.

Rando mcrandolpohersons' name will only be remembered if he goes else where and becomes an allstar. Almost forgot about the best part of camp, the awards! Best name, Stevie rocker. No first guy gone, because we had a pretty crazy amount of retirements pre- and mid-camp this year. Camp? who needs camp? Oladejo. Made the club from the tub, List is too long and uncertain. But most importantly, the MVP of TC, Taylor Elgersma. And for the first time in a long time, camp MVP has made the team!

You know what’s kinda sad but weird at the same time? People on the forum here go on about a guy like Frederickson, myself included, there’s like 50 guys we don’t mention at all so despite the narrative a guy like Frederickson actually stood out. He was noticeable bad game 1. Noticeable better game 2. Singer was consistent. The DL guys were mentioned lots. The guys they kept did stand out and outside of maybe Clinton, but honestly that’s already a log jam at linebacker, and he may have turned down a pr spot. nobody else who was let go, they didn’t stand out good or bad. They were just there. Scouting could use some upgrades tho cuz Frederickson actually stood out. Was getting balls his direction so was either read 1 or doing something right.

yes... thank you for reading my mind! 😄

How can you call Gavin Cobb serviceable? He only suited up for 4 games last season while just starting 2 & catching just 6 passes for 51 yards.

Someone quick make the ideal depth chart and then make the one Osh be Oshin with the remaining players We have left here which still appears over the allowed limit. Also we weren’t really that bad last year. The O was amateur hour all year with the Hulkster calling plays brother but we managed a respectable record with an O that did not exist most games. If the O improves even slightly, I dunno, logically we should win more games. Now do I think Zach finds the fountain of youth? Nope. Impossible i tells you but I think there’s a better chance he stays healthy this year than last. And hopefully gets hit less cuz once he starts getting hit, he starts sucking. In the end CFL appears to be which QB can stay healthy the longest or all season even. Healthy Starter = good chance of winning more. RE: Daniels. Perhaps we all start coming around when he makes the block that doesn’t get Zach carted off the field. Cuz he’s Dante Daniels the Canadian Marine, lead blocker extraordinaire. Or maybe cuz didn’t do **** preseason.

Randell Kendolph?

Every time you guys say Randall....... Are you trying to say Randolph?

Wheatfall was given every opportunity be the guy last year. He completely vanished after the first few games, when the team needed someone to step up. Wheatfall beating out the #3 import is something I'd be completely fine with. Daniels did what he was asked to do. Remember when Walters wanted to draft him because of his exceptional catching and route running? Isn't that what his quote about Daniels is? The guy isn't going to be catching 5 passes a game. He's here to block. Agreed about Rocker...though I don't know why they'd even bring him in to TC to begin with. And I don't take anything away from Pre-seasons game either win or lose. But in 2019 in one game they scored 3 points. The Offense blew people TF up to start that year. I was pointing out that shitty preseason games don't point to anything other than shitty preseason games.

Thanks. Yeah, I wish we had hidden Randall on the IR. I think that didn't happen because we are hiding a lot of injuries. I don't think we will see a bunch of room on the IRs to hide a guy for the whole year. Middling teams are really tough on fan bases. And it is hard to jump from mediocre to exceptional. I still see so much potential in the bones of what we have assembled. But slow starts and injuries are the biggest obstacles to succeeding with old teams. We also are soo bought in on this year, looking at what we'd have next year in scary.

he is prob one of the worst in the league at his position in coverage....bar none. He'd be good in a retro 3-4 front as one the interior LB's staying in the box.... Like I said...it's collective....who do we have the last few yrs besides a few aging stars who are super impactful. Fox was more than solid inside actually...and doing nothing with an opportunity in one place, but solid and contributing in another maybe comes down to better coaching I dont look for wins in pre-season as its irrelevant....look for skill/potential and ability, and versatility/athleticism...the other parts will fall into place if you are well coached I bet outside of White/Pokey who are gonna see hella lot of volume and forced throws , that Wheatfall will put up better numbers than any other import we play....as he will likely be properly used We have a history here of not giving anyone a legit chance/opportunity until literally forced to with no other choice...and even then we repeatedly played guys who should never have been on the field. BC reciever sure...rookie...against rookies...still tho made the plays...a scrub would have dropped ball...or never even got to the right spot to make said play...maybe the wide open score he recognized something and went to the vacated area?...coulda...shoulda if he saw it....What did Daniels do to secure a spot? Better yet...what did we do for him to actually show something...nothing....and thats not his fault Feel sorry for a guy like Rocker too....got no use...no involvement in anything...we know what peterson can do...we saw it last yr...why even waste a roster spot in TC on a guy like Rocker?...what a waste of his time.

My worry is that we're set up for another year where we win 9 games or so. Not truly bad but not good enough to win the Cup.

Randall was a big cut that stood out to me... as a guy who looked like the best OL on our team and one of the better RTs in the league last year... and then we went on to add a top LT... it felt short-sighted to release Randall in favour of (essentially) a 40 year old past his prime... @wbbfan broke it down pretty good, so I have a better appreciation of the move now now.... just felt odd to release a good player, while still relatively young...

yeah...Our backups and potential upside guys were actually faring very well vs BC's offensive starters...and were up 10-3 Our scrubs and draft picks were hosed by BC's scrubs and draftee's.... Ball is ball regardless of who it is against....Heck a lot of our "starters" didnt play at all in pre-season really, so who knows how they would have fared vs scrubs and TCF...But all made the club from the tub. Some say Elsbury is the answer at center but he didnt overall impress and as an Import that would make you have to switch your ratio, and likely play inadequate Canadian receivers, and even worse as their backup...That import center has to be exceptional at worst...Did Eli even polay any center in Pre-season to play himself outta the starting lineup? Also...Come the real game time Elsbury will be seeing legit schemes and likely stuff he has never faced, not the vanilla he saw in pre-season...is he gonna be able to make the proper calls?...or is he gonna flub a bunch of them and risk ZC getting eviscerated in the process??...

Up next is the classic, the first month of the season is an extended pre-season. Seriously though, My expectations for the offence starting the year are looooooooooow. Zach threw what 4 attempts in preseason? I don't think we had any success running the ball till like the 4th quarter of the games with MCI in. Health of Eli, Wilson, and Demski up in the air. And we sure look to be starting 3 NI wrs.

booch...ever single guy you listed outside of Augustine (And even him to a degree) have had little to no impact in this league. And even then, all of those guys were not TC cuts as rookies. They all got on to this Coaching staffs team, got opportunities to become something and they all did nothing with those opportunities. Hamilton had a better record sure...they also played Ott more and watched the GC right next the Bombers. Likewise, I'm not saying I like all the cuts. But what we see in pre-season games doesn't = all stars even if all star plays were made during those games. I'm blown away by people talking about that rookie draft pick who scored as if he's some miracle worker...any one of us could have scored there. It was a busted coverage. His 2nd TD was solid, but again...against a Rookie in what looked like man coverage. Not exactly an amazing play in my books. And to have some on here declaring a 3rd place finish or worse because of what happened? Lol...it's pre-season. A ****** rifle caught 2 passes, should he be on the team too? lol. People need to chill out. They went 1-4 in preseason games during the last 2 championship season.

Hed be pretty good, if it was a different era where every team was running 15-20 times at minimum. He can't pass rush and can't handle any coverage assignment.

To be fair the backups played BCs starters for the first couple of drives and kept the reigning MOP out of the endzone and held the best WR to what 1 catch? Then the bc backups came in along with bomber 3rd stringers/rifles/just flat out cuts.

currently Ham has Augustine..Wheatfall...Fox...Hubert...Myron Mitchell of all people on their roster...all guys we cut adrift and rally have not adequately replaced another interior DT and WR...As one example also had Garbutt but he got hurt...still isnt 100 percent an I think out of football at moment. So teams find value and use in our cast offs....and ironically Ham had a better record than us, so the excuse some use that this team..or that team is garbage doesnt hold weight. Not saying all are world beaters, but all were solid and its a collective effort in the end as well.. I like a lot of what we kept.. I said if you look back I think they will keep, or should keep Mazzccua as there something there..As well as Fletcher who is multi versatile and Reese who has best get off, and were smart keeps....Sure we have a log jam of LB's....but we also have 2 long in tooth and only really need one, so keeping another younger one to develop would been the smart choice. Singer was best of a bad group of WR recruits and serves multiple roles so again a smart choice but if this plan of starting 3 Canadians is real then keeping him...Womack...and Fredrickson around but seems redundant and a waste of PR space when there zero chance to get on roster, while we have really only 3 canadians worthy of being actual starters....keep one import and load your PR with defensive guys with serious upside with the other 2 spots

I can see your votes. As long as you didn't get the error the first time you voted. I'm the only one who can see who voted for what.

Having only 3 games opening week is a dumb move. @Rich I voted...but it's telling me I don't have permission to vote in this poll, or see the poll results.

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I mean I guess...unless you take what Clinton said about that play in the post game as truth. "I saw something brown in the air and jumped at it". Rookies/scrubs playing against each other absolutely play in to it. You think that that wide open TD from the draft pick the Bombers obviously fumbled, wasn't a busted coverage? Rookies playing rookies can make average players look like world beaters. We can say all we want about pre-season play...but if Clinton is constantly making the same mistakes in practice day in and day out should Younger ignore that because he picked off a back up QB in the preseason game? I'm just using Clinton as an example....practice reps absolutely mean something when it comes to understanding the scheme. And showing coaches you can be trusted to be where you're supposed to be. There were multiple plays last game where guys where obviously in the wrong area (because a WR was wide open, or there would just be 2 defenders doing the same thing about 3 yards apart). This happens every year. People ***** and moan about pre-season cuts and how well they played against other teams 3rd stringers. And those cuts eventually join other teams and become absolute all-stars....except they don't....they're usually never heard from again. Sure other teams have guys they're invested in and want to bring in etc etc...but if these guys were such Pre-season masters and obvious heros, they should absolutely show up somewhere again right? Like Lawler....or Grant...But that just doesn't happen as much as some want to pretend it does.

yeah...we have an aging core...we let a lot of young promise walk tho...and we need to change that. I not saying dump all yhour vets, but many canbe replaced by younger guys with upside and more skill, and not hurt you in the least outside of Clercius/Demski/Neild he is the best backup Canadian as he can play inside...outside...return...run jet sweep we go 3 national recievers...we have the worst group in league again...especially if one of Demski or Neild goes down...Clercius is already hurt, and there no guarantee Demski goes injury free...heck he didnt even make it outta camp with zero contact. Add to that the fact we know damn well Osh will play a hampered/injured Demski who will offer minimal results as well...we\'ve seen it before so not a make believe story to trash Osh....