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Wrestling

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it's too bad rollins is hurt, they could have done a bullet club vs shield feud somewhere down the road, like AJ wins the strap and roman snaps and starts getting a shield reunion to screw AJ over so AJ gets his help from gallows and anderson.  Roman was a lot more effective as part of a faction then he has been solo imo

I didn't catch all of raw, but i did watch the Styles vs Zayn match, it was pretty good

36 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Roman is gonna turn heel soon. It's pretty obvious and that was the best raw of the year 

They need to do it soon.  The window is closing on it being effective. 

Sorry TUP but I think wrestling has passed you by.  If you didn't enjoy that RAW then I doubt you will ever enjoy WWE again.  Maybe move on to something else.

5 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Sorry TUP but I think wrestling has passed you by.  If you didn't enjoy that RAW then I doubt you will ever enjoy WWE again.  Maybe move on to something else.

lol Wrestling has passed me by.  lol  Thanks man, I needed that.

Best thing I could see happening (and by best, I mean what I'd like to see) is Bullet Club interfere at Payback, showing up looking like they're going to help AJ only to destroy him. I don't want them as a 3 man squad. Save that for Finn or go full blown faction.

17 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

lol Wrestling has passed me by.  lol  Thanks man, I needed that.

Just bustin your balls ;)

9 minutes ago, Mike said:

Best thing I could see happening (and by best, I mean what I'd like to see) is Bullet Club interfere at Payback, showing up looking like they're going to help AJ only to destroy him. I don't want them as a 3 man squad. Save that for Finn or go full blown faction.

That would be a good swerve.  I dont think WWE would put AJ with them.  Fin they might though.  And that could bring Fin to the main roster.  Its interesting they started a tag tournament and then debuted Bullet Club after it started.  So either they dont want them in that mix for some reason (dont want to put them against New Day and dont want them to lose a match in the tournament) or they have something else up their sleeve.

Several Indy signing by WWE including Babatunde Alyegbusi a 6'9, 350lb former Vikings prospect.  No one else of note other than Nikki Storm who I *think* I saw wrestle here but I cant quite recall.

TNA lost their Tuesday night replay, which is never a good sign (they are never any good signs in TNA though).  Dixie Carter is still trying to secure major investment.  Supposedly she had someone willing to buy into the company but they wanted 51% and she doesnt want to give up control.

One thing I did not notice watching RAW, but Bray is pinning his man and Sheamus is running in, right before the spear by Roman, Bray casually points (in a gun sign) at Sheamus without turning his head.  It was subtle and amazing.  Bray is a smart worker.

16 minutes ago, Mike said:

Best thing I could see happening (and by best, I mean what I'd like to see) is Bullet Club interfere at Payback, showing up looking like they're going to help AJ only to destroy him. I don't want them as a 3 man squad. Save that for Finn or go full blown faction.

I wouldn't mind that.  I can't see AJ winning the title so quickly and also can't see him losing clean to Reigns right after he lost clean to Y2J at Rasslemania.

Personally I would have Cesaro in the WWE title picture and AJ going for the IC but that's just me.

Just now, Atomic said:

I wouldn't mind that.  I can't see AJ winning the title so quickly and also can't see him losing clean to Reigns right after he lost clean to Y2J at Rasslemania.

Personally I would have Cesaro in the WWE title picture and AJ going for the IC but that's just me.

The knock on Cesaro, besides balding and being an internet darling, which Vince doesnt like, is he is a good worker but doesnt have "babyface fire".  he's just a really good mechanical worker.  He had the big spin but he's now adding other things like the running uppercut so he's adding some of those face spots.  And the James Bond thing is pretty good though more of a Bond villain than 007 himself (his intro makes him look like Bond).  He's really good though.  Not sure I see him as a top guy.  IC level if the IC level was good.

Kevin Owens is gold.  He will be world champion one day. 

I absolutely love the "Bond" character.  It suits him perfectly and I think it was exactly what he needed at this point.

It's unfortunate that he's bald but so were Stone Cold and Hogan.  It can be overcome.

Edited by Atomic

More info on TNA Death Watch 2016.

TNA's corporate offices were two floors of an office building in Nashville where Dixie had her PR Firm HQ before she bought TNA.  In recent weeks, they moved out of the upper floor of the building into the basement where their TV production facilities were located.

Its been reported that they have now been completely evicted from the building and are relocating the HQ into their merchandise warehouse.

TNA is back to being behind on pay and has had trouble coming up with deposits for buildings.  Dixie is frantically looking for an influx of cash.  She reportedly has an offer for 51% of the company but doesnt want to cede control.

TNA no longer runs house shows.  They have stopped taping their TV on the road.  They cancelled an India tour that they were contractually obligated to do.  And their TV replay was cancelled and TNA was just told yesterday.  In their two previous TV deals that were cancelled, the replay was the first thing to go.

tick tock tick tock

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:
2 hours ago, Atomic said:

I wouldn't mind that.  I can't see AJ winning the title so quickly and also can't see him losing clean to Reigns right after he lost clean to Y2J at Rasslemania.

Personally I would have Cesaro in the WWE title picture and AJ going for the IC but that's just me.

The knock on Cesaro, besides balding and being an internet darling, which Vince doesnt like, is he is a good worker but doesnt have "babyface fire".  he's just a really good mechanical worker.  He had the big spin but he's now adding other things like the running uppercut so he's adding some of those face spots.  And the James Bond thing is pretty good though more of a Bond villain than 007 himself (his intro makes him look like Bond).  He's really good though.  Not sure I see him as a top guy.  IC level if the IC level was good.

Kevin Owens is gold.  He will be world champion one day. 

 

46 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

Sorry TUP but when I quoted Atomic your quote also came out. I don't know why this site does this every once in awhile. So I deleted your quote as it is off topic... Okay, what I wanted to talk about was Cesaro. I think he's the best wrestler in the WWE. He'd be perfect holding a championship belt. The guy is just a great wrestler. He should be a champion...

1 minute ago, iso_55 said:

 

Sorry TUP but when I quoted Atomic your quote also came out. I don't know why this site does this every once in awhile. So I deleted your quote as it is off topic... Okay, what I wanted to talk about was Cesaro. I think he's the best wrestler in the WWE. He'd be perfect holding a championship belt. The guy is just a great wrestler. He should be a champion...

Not only that but he legit speaks multiple languages.  He'd be a great ambassador.  Give him the IC title or bring back the European championship which would be perfect for him...

Vince should be forced out as he is getting blind & can't see his nose to spite his face. He holds Cesaro back & pushes Roman Reigns.

Former ECW star Balls Mahoney has passed away. RIP to an entertaining character and genuine person. Xanta Claus at one point also lol 

Just bought tickets to my first ever ROH show.  PPV in Vegas in August.  Front row opposite the hard cam so I will be accepting sign suggestions! lol


Trying to get tix for the TV the next night but the site is jammed.

So TNA is on death watch... I can say I never watch it. No interest in doing so.

21 minutes ago, iso_55 said:

So TNA is on death watch... I can say I never watch it. No interest in doing so.

I used to back in the early days and occasionally when it was on SPIKE.  I got back into when they hired Hogan and Bischoff just to see what they'd do and ofcourse the new "Monday night war" (which didnt last long). 

Word is their show is a lot better now that they have limited means and talent. 

5 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I used to back in the early days and occasionally when it was on SPIKE.  I got back into when they hired Hogan and Bischoff just to see what they'd do and ofcourse the new "Monday night war" (which didnt last long). 

Word is their show is a lot better now that they have limited means and talent. 

Too little, too late. I feel bad for the wrestlers working TNA as it looks like they're not being paid. Dixie Cater refusing financing as she won't be the majority shareholder is ridiculous. Forty nine per cent of something is better than 51% of nothing. Won't be watching any shows in the future.

Bray Wyatt injured on a house show minutes ago. Match was stopped and he was helped out. Looks like ankle. 

Bad timing if it's serious. 

Well, now we'll see if Stroman will be sent back to NXT where he should have been in the 1st place.

I cant remember if I mentioned this year yet but here is a great TNA story.  The company has been a money loser for ages, probably its entire existence.  In fact the reason Dixie Carter is the President of the company is that back in 2002, the Jarrett's hired her to do PR for them.  The business model at the time was NO television and just doing weekly PPV for $10.  They thought they'd do 150,000 PPV buys per week but hovered around 10,000 buys per week.  One of their production people gave them incorrect information about the buys leading them to believe they were doing way better than they were (it takes months for the PPV revenue to be paid out so the company had to pay all expenses of producing the shows for, say, six months before they got one cent back).

When the Jarrett's realised the real PPV numbers, they were essentially bankrupt.  Dixie, their PR person, then went to her parents who owned Panda Energy and convinced them to buy controlling interest of TNA and make her President.  And that's what saved TNA after its first six months of existence, and how Dixie came to "own" it.  Jeff Jarrett retained a minority interest.

Fast forward a few years and Jarrett ends up in a secret relationship with Kurt Angle's wife (they were separated) and when the truth came out, there was loads of heat on Jeff to the point Dixie sent him home and Jeff's power in the company vanished.  He ended up coming back some time later and working with Kurt but his behind the scenes power was gone, though he still owned part of the company.

Last year Jarrett tries to buy TNA from Dixie's parents, backed by Toby Keith.  Keith had appeared on an early episode of TNA's weekly PPV and was a good friend of Jeff's.  Toby was willing to fund the purchase.  The deal was all but agreed to, money worked out, everything...except Dixie's dad insisted Dixie be kept on as an on-screen character.  When Jeff & Toby refused to promise that, the deal fell apart.   They could have SOLD TNA for ACTUAL money but because they insisted their daughter be given a job, it fell apart.  Now the company is practically worthless.

Jarrett ended up making a deal to sell back his interest in the company in exchange for TNA promoting Jeff's new promotion Global Force Wrestling, which is in even worse shape than TNA.  In fact, Jeff is somehow fronting a gold-selling company that has been called a ponzi scheme. 

So the most recent word is there IS a interested financial backer willing to buy into TNA but they want 51% and Dixie doesnt want to give up control.  Supposedly, this backer has provided funds so TNA can at least keep meeting their TV taping costs.  Without it, they are essentially dead in the water.  So basically, this deal HAS to be made.  Panda Energy stopped funding TNA...Dixie's parents turned off the gravy train.

I'd be surprised if TNA lasted a year.  But I also wouldnt be surprised if they went on "hiatus" with Dixie making regular announcements about TNA's impending come back that never ends up happening.

I'd suspect WWE would be interested in acquiring the library and brands but you never know.  WWE looks down on TNA in a very big way.  But the content would be great for the Network.

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