Goalie Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 On 3/27/2017 at 3:47 PM, Floyd said: Just checking on the two D I thought were the best picks still on the board if Jets wouldn't have pulled the trigger on Stanley... Lucas Johansen - LHD - 68 games - 40 pts, +23 (WHL) Kale Clague - LHD - 48 games, 40 pts, -8 (WHL) Stanley - 35 games, 17 pts, +2 (OHL) What does the Plus Minus have to do with anything? I don't really get the point of this post besides? what? I mean, are points the be all and end all of D men playing in Junior? Stanley was improving until he got hurt, He's a project, he's a few years away still if ever, Johansen and Clague aren't exactly sure fire picks either. I didn't like the pick but i'm not sure what posting points and plus minus really proves JCon and Atomic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 JCon, Rich and kelownabomberfan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Lawless reports it well after Friedman retweeted the UND beat writer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, The Unknown Poster said: Time to start the Myers watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Lawless also retweeted the other tweet. More youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: Time to start the Myers watch? LOL. Seriously? C'mon man. Poolman is a project, that appears to be 3rd D pair money for sure that he signed for but... I highly doubt Myers moves anytime soon...Quit over rating our prospects, Poolman is good but he's at best maybe a 2nd pairing guy in the future but in reality, hopefully an improvement on Postma. He can also play the Left side so keep that in mind. BomberFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Lawless Twitter... Poolman and Jets agree on a one-year ELC for $1.775 million (salary and bonuses). Contract starts next year. Will be a Group 2 free agent after his one-year ELC expires (RFA with arb rights). AHL salary will be with $70,000. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 24 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Lawless Twitter... Poolman and Jets agree on a one-year ELC for $1.775 million (salary and bonuses). Contract starts next year. Will be a Group 2 free agent after his one-year ELC expires (RFA with arb rights). AHL salary will be with $70,000. That seems like a pretty solid ELC salary. Hopefully he's a gamer. As goalie said, I'd expect him to pencil in at the 3LHD spot. Morrissey-Trouba Toby-Buff Poolman-Myers If Huddy doesnt screw it up, that could be a solid D corp. BomberBall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 ELC contracts are 925k. No choice. Max signing bonus is 10%. The rest has to be in performance bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rich said: ELC contracts are 925k. No choice. Max signing bonus is 10%. The rest has to be in performance bonuses. 925k max but many are lower valued. Glad to see Poolman signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Atomic said: 925k max but many are lower valued. Glad to see Poolman signed. Yes. 925 is the max. I believe the minimum is 650 next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Goalie said: I didn't like the pick but i'm not sure what posting points and plus minus really proves Just a quick check up on them... both Clague and Johansen will make the big leagues imo. Plus minus doesn't really mean much at all... unless its really an outlier like +23 Points means a lot in the lower leagues... if you're not scoring there, you really have zero hope of making the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Thats what I meant, he didnt sign for the minimum. Ofcourse, he had some leverage. But hopefully the salary represents the projected talent level. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: That seems like a pretty solid ELC salary. Hopefully he's a gamer. As goalie said, I'd expect him to pencil in at the 3LHD spot. Morrissey-Trouba Toby-Buff Poolman-Myers If Huddy doesnt screw it up, that could be a solid D corp. Replace Toby with anything, even an orange traffic cone, and I will agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: Replace Toby with anything, even an orange traffic cone, and I will agree with you. They have the last few games and our D is worse. Strait and Melchiori are traffic cones Jimmy Pop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Goalie said: They have the last few games and our D is worse. Strait and Melchiori are traffic cones Traffic cones that clear the front of the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Floyd said: Traffic cones that clear the front of the net. Have you watched these 2 in our D zone? Strait sent back to the Moose today so that should tell you what they think of him. Melchiori is a gongshow... the play dies on his stick every shift. He's awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: Thats what I meant, he didnt sign for the minimum. Ofcourse, he had some leverage. But hopefully the salary represents the projected talent level. He had more leverage than trouba did this off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, Goalie said: Have you watched these 2 in our D zone? Strait sent back to the Moose today so that should tell you what they think of him. Melchiori is a gongshow... the play dies on his stick every shift. He's awful. Not defending their puck handling or skating skills at all. Buff's recent 'mistakes' are because he tries to do everything because he has no faith in Melchiori... They are plugs... but plugs that outmuscle guys in front of our net. Jets are still a .500 team with Enstrom or Melchiori as your #4 D. That's disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Toby isnt terrible JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Toby isnt terrible I'm not a Toby hater... but this season is by far his worst for whatever reason. He's taking one bad stick penalty a game and getting beaten to the puck and in the corners. The fact that Melchiori is not a recognizable drop off is not good. He has never had any chemistry with Buff... I'd re-sign him at 3 mill for two years as our third pairing after next season Morrissey-Trouba Chiarot-Buff Enstrom-Myers (Poolman-Postma) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Toby was playing well until leaving the team to deal with a family illness. He wasnt the same when he got back. And obviously been hampered by injuries (he had knee surgery today). The days of him being #1 are over. But I'd feel good about him as #3/4. JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 I remember it was a 2nd and 3rd but somehow turned into all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: I remember it was a 2nd and 3rd but somehow turned into all this? http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2015/6/4/8726949/johnny-oduya-trade-winner-winnipeg-jets-chicago-blackhawks JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Big winner in that trade is Oduya because he got two Cups since then lol FrostyWinnipeg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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