Taynted_Fayth Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Says 1 year deals bad for the league Dressler signed pretty close to what they offered, despite similar offer elsewhere, he chose winnipeg Scouting needs to improve Hes trying to move away from incentive based deals cuz their too hard to predict. RE: 1 year deals being bad for the league; i agree and disagree wiith that there's no commitment to the team, however you might entice better talent who were fringe NFLer's getting cut to come here even if aspiration is still down south, there would be more coming and going, but I think it might be better for the league to expose more ppl down south, even if for just a year RE: Dressler good stuff all around on that. RE: Scouting, is anything being done? like bringing in new scouts? RE: incentives, its kind of a gamble for both sides, you win some you lose some bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) -US Mini-camp normally held down in Florida in April is now going to be in Winnipeg because of the current state of the dollar. Just doesn't make financial sense otherwise. -As noted earlier, Walters spoke to Moore's agent weeks ago and let them know they wouldn't be extending a contract their way prior to Free Agency. Edited January 26, 2016 by Noeller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said: RE: incentives, its kind of a gamble for both sides, you win some you lose some Except one side doesn't have a salary cap to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 true, but my under standing is because of the incentives, if they are not met, then the club essentially gets that players for that much less that season, so instead of 180K they got them at a steal of 150K or something, so the club can win with incentives too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 That's assuming the base pay is low though. I doubt you'll attract any good, established players with an offer like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 well that was just an example though showcasing how both sides can win. Ive had jobs with comission before, and its really no different. your starting wage, but higher ceiling if you do well. If everyone hit this incentives and it happens to go over the sms, id be thinking well that sucks for the sms, but we got the team playing lights out. shucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 37 minutes ago, Taynted_Fayth said: Says 1 year deals bad for the league Dressler signed pretty close to what they offered, despite similar offer elsewhere, he chose winnipeg Scouting needs to improve Hes trying to move away from incentive based deals cuz their too hard to predict. RE: 1 year deals being bad for the league; i agree and disagree wiith that there's no commitment to the team, however you might entice better talent who were fringe NFLer's getting cut to come here even if aspiration is still down south, there would be more coming and going, but I think it might be better for the league to expose more ppl down south, even if for just a year RE: Dressler good stuff all around on that. RE: Scouting, is anything being done? like bringing in new scouts? RE: incentives, its kind of a gamble for both sides, you win some you lose some Was this live? Link please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted January 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) I was just copying off the twitter feed as it was posting by CFL_News thats why i missed the part Noeller posted **theres a copy posts posted here http://www.cjob.com/sports/ I didnt see walters remark that the Moore ship sailed long before dressler became available, i know it was mentioned there was no talk, but that pretty much confirms it Edited January 26, 2016 by Taynted_Fayth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 It was live on periscope earlier, for folks who want to go back and watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 I have to imagine how disheartened Walters and O'Shea must have been every time Moore pulled off a nice grab, only to come up nicked and out of action...Big money spent on a player that turned out badly...I don't blame the Bombers for moving on but you have to know that Willy must be affected a bit as Moore was a friend and an offseason receiving target for him when he worked out...Business is business and I'm sure Drew will be the first to acknowledge that and get a big lift when Weston shows up in the locker room..We're moving on up.....and no I'm not going to insert the ol Jeffersons theme song...Been a good day with the Dressler signing and now Kyle has to figure in a few more fa signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Taynted_Fayth said: RE: 1 year deals being bad for the league; i agree and disagree wiith that there's no commitment to the team, however you might entice better talent who were fringe NFLer's getting cut to come here even if aspiration is still down south, there would be more coming and going, but I think it might be better for the league to expose more ppl down south, even if for just a year I agree with you from a fan perspective... I'd rather get one year out of guys like Duran Carter and Eric Rodgers than not have them at all... but from management's perspective, I can see how it would be tough to plan with a bunch of guys on 1-year deals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 One other thing mentioned in the presser that's sorta interesting, is that Walters apparently has a bunch of stuff going on re: our own FAs. He dodged and ducked as best he could, but you got the impression we'll see a bunch of our own signings coming up in the next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty30 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 55 minutes ago, Noeller said: One other thing mentioned in the presser that's sorta interesting, is that Walters apparently has a bunch of stuff going on re: our own FAs. He dodged and ducked as best he could, but you got the impression we'll see a bunch of our own signings coming up in the next week... Hopefully only a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 i think he also said that he would be back doing one next fri feb 5 again to update us on the bomber free agents good signing today Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon37 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Taynted_Fayth said: RE: Scouting, is anything being done? like bringing in new scouts? Roflmao! DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 The Walters presser did put out some interesting info in how the Bombers are undertaking the search (scouting) import talent. - They are taking statistical data from successful CFL recruiting and applying it to how they evaluate talent at NFL camps. They hope to get a better grasp on identifying potential, useful CFL players. In other words, do a better job of recruiting. This has been a concern for every Bomber fan for at least the last 2 years. We can only hope this new approach reaps benefits. - Walters touched on the O-Line and the fact that they only have 3 Canadian guys signed. At "this date", they are not concerned as he feels there is plenty of time to locate and sign at least PR guys to develop. And, of course, the draft. The only "surprise" thus far, was the retirement of T. Griffiths, whom they felt was coming along nicely. At this time I can't help but feel the Bombers are ahead of where they wanted to be, mainly due to the availability, and signing of Weston Dressler, and that the process they are following will yield more signings of our own FAs, and that, of course, will lead right up to Free Agency in 2 weeks time. I think they will go after another big name receiver, a middle of the pack O-Line guy (think Watman) and a big name D-Line guy. We're in good position to be successful in those areas, I would think. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: The Walters presser did put out some interesting info in how the Bombers are undertaking the search (scouting) import talent. - They are taking statistical data from successful CFL recruiting and applying it to how they evaluate talent at NFL camps. They hope to get a better grasp on identifying potential, useful CFL players. In other words, do a better job of recruiting. This has been a concern for every Bomber fan for at least the last 2 years. We can only hope this new approach reaps benefits. How about they just do what they did in the 1980's, and do it again? Man they always had such a huge flow of talent coming through Winnipeg in those years. I don't know how you just "forget" to scout like they used to. What happened? I look at teams like Calgary and every time a guy goes down, someone even better seems to just seamlessly pop up from nowhere and take his place. I would just focus on what Huffer does, and do that here. Edited January 27, 2016 by kelownabomberfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Glad that Walters fired a shot across the bow of the Blue Bombers Scouting Dept saying they have to do a better job of finding talent. It's something we've been saying here all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: How about they just do what they did in the 1980's, and do it again? Man they always had such a huge flow of talent coming through Winnipeg in those years. I don't know how you just "forget" to scout like they used to. What happened? I look at teams like Calgary and every time a guy goes down, someone even better seems to just seamlessly pop up from nowhere and take his place. I would just focus on what Huffer does, and do that here. Players aren't as available as they used to be. NFL teams try to hide their last cuts. Larger rosters, more teams etc. Can't compare the 80's to today. Edited January 27, 2016 by iso_55 comedygeek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Huffer had John Murphy. Guess we'll see who he brings in to Regina as Asst GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) CFL News– @CFL_News Walters: "Our scouting dept. needs to improve, to find better, younger players." #CFL #Bombers via @Wpg_BlueBombers 11:14 AM - 26 Jan Terrence Edwards– @Tjedwards82I'm say it again... @Wpg_BlueBombers I told the bosses before I retire, I would like to get into the scouting! https://twitter.com/cfl_news/status/692062962945753091 … 11:53 AM - 26 Jan 2016 Edited January 27, 2016 by Mr Dee SPuDS and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I don't think repeatedly tweeting his case publicly is going to help Edward's case with the Bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Edwards should have his agent contact the Bombers & see if they're open to any discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: How about they just do what they did in the 1980's, and do it again? Man they always had such a huge flow of talent coming through Winnipeg in those years. I don't know how you just "forget" to scout like they used to. What happened? I look at teams like Calgary and every time a guy goes down, someone even better seems to just seamlessly pop up from nowhere and take his place. I would just focus on what Huffer does, and do that here. Hate to bring this name up but Joe Mack was director of player personnel from 84-87 and he did a very good job recruiting. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted January 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I dont know if I can post them here, but on the bomber site they have the presser on a 2 part vid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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