Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

And Steven Stamkos is staying in T BAY according to bobby MAC

 

Pk for Weber? why would Montreal do this?

 

As for Hall, there are some rumors out there about character issues. Jets wouldn't touch Hall. 

1 minute ago, Goalie said:

Pk for Weber? why would Montreal do this?

Why would Nash do it?

Pk wore out his welcome with Habs management and coaches Weber looked gassed in the playoffs both are great players see this trade as a saw off.

2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Why would Nash do it?

Because Weber is on the decline and getting paid way more than Subban is? 

7 minutes ago, Goalie said:

And Steven Stamkos is staying in T BAY according to bobby MAC

 

Pk for Weber? why would Montreal do this?

 

As for Hall, there are some rumors out there about character issues. Jets wouldn't touch Hall. 

Supposed big time red flags about Halls character maybe some of our Alberta friends can chime in on this

I go into one meeting and everything blows up.

 

Where's Chevy? What's he doing? Get on it Chevy or get out!! /s

Wow.  The sports networks are going to be sending an angry memo to Bettman.  Save this **** for tomorrow! lol

Just now, JCon said:

I go into one meeting and everything blows up.

 

Where's Chevy? What's he doing? Get on it Chevy or get out!! /s

Trying to sign Trouba for 6m a year for his efforts the last 2 years

1 minute ago, Goalie said:

Because Weber is on the decline and getting paid way more than Subban is? 

I think Weber is actually getting paid way less now. Wasn't everything in the signing bonus? AAV remains, of course.

 

13 minutes ago, Noeller said:

also, they're obviously signing Lucic on Friday, but even with that, it's a massive downgrade at LW. Humongous downgrade...

I f**king hate Lucic so for me this makes a bad day even worse. 

I think Weber had 4 $13m bonuses which should make the last of those bonus payments done.  So its, what, around $5m actual cash remaining per year?

Subban  6 years left with 9m AAV and actual salary owing is 58m.

Weber 8 years left with 7.86m AAV and actual salary owing is 52m.

Also, Stamkos was just in Toronto TODAY so for him to decide to stay in Tampa, which shocks me by the way, he obviously didnt like TO's offer.

Weber is 30 or 31 and the Preds played him far too many minutes per game.

Stamkos has come close to the cup twice now. It doesn't surprise me that he is staying at all.

Totally insane trade by Montreal unless there is something going on with Subban.  Even then, Montreal should have done better if 20 other teams knew he was available.  Or wait til next summer and trade him to Vegas for something.

Stamkos is getting $68 over 8 years. $8.5AAV

TO would have to pay a lot more to match TB offer when income tax is taken into consideration.

I suspect TO hoped to get a bit of a discount with sponsorship offsets.

Edited June 29, 20169 yr by JCon

6 hours ago, Rich said:

I really don’t get what Boston is doing here.  It is like they have no plan and are flying by the seat of their pants.

 

They trade away Dougie Hamilton who could be their potential #1 D-Man of the future.  They trade him away for a 1^st rounder and 2 - 2^nd rounders.

 

Hamilton signs in Calgary to a 6 year $34.5M contract for an AAV of $5.75M

 

Then they realize they don’t have a #1 D-Man and try to trade for one at the draft.  Can’t get one.

 

So they decide they are going to try and sign Trouba away.  They have to do it for a minimum of $46M over 7 years for an AAV of $6.7M.   And to do this they would have to give up 4 - 1^st round draft picks.

 

Trouba’s best season was his rookie season where he had 10G 19A for 29 points.   He has been going down since then.

 

Hamilton’s best season was last year where he scored 12G 31A for 43 points, and he scored 42 points in the prior season. 

 

Although you do have to give Trouba the advantage in +/-, hits, and blocks.

 

Not sure who is going to be the better D-Man down the road, but if you want a corner stone #1 D-Man, so far it looks like Hamilton will give you the better offensive numbers to do that.  Trouba would definitely be more physical.  He could also end up producing more once he gets out of the shadow of Byfuglien and Myers, but he really hasn’t shown this yet.

 

So to summarize you traded away your future #1 D-Man for a 1^st rounder and 2 - 2^nds  and he ended up signing for an AAV of $5.75.

 

You want to give up 4 - 1^st rounders for Trouba and sign him to an AAV of about $6.7M

 

I’d seriously consider taking the picks, and that would continue the curse that every Jets Jersey I buy, ends up getting traded away (hello Ladd, Bogosian, and Trouba).

 

I say we all chip in and buy Rich a Drew Stafford jersey...

5 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Totally insane trade by Montreal unless there is something going on with Subban.  Even then, Montreal should have done better if 20 other teams knew he was available.  Or wait til next summer and trade him to Vegas for something.

That is the thing with Subban.  His NMC clause kicks in July 1st.  If they decided they wanted to move him, now is the easiest time to do it.

Subban won the Norris and sat out the gold medal game didn't he?

Didn't Weber dress for it.

I'd rather have Weber on my team but not sure about 2-3 years from now. Weber should only see about 22-23 minutes a game.

7 minutes ago, JCon said:

Stamkos is getting $68 over 8 years. $8.5AAV

TO would have to pay a lot more to match TB offer when income tax is taken into consideration.

I suspect TO hoped to get a bit of a discount with sponsorship offsets.

Toronto media went out of there way to put this narrative out there today 

5 minutes ago, JCon said:

Stamkos is getting $68 over 8 years. $8.5AAV

TO would have to pay a lot more to match TB offer when income tax is taken into consideration.

I suspect TO hoped to get a bit of a discount with sponsorship offsets.

Confirmed?  Because the rumors were Buffalo and Detroit offering $10m per year.  Im somewhat surprised Tampa wants to pay to be honest if for no other reason than the playoffs showed they could win without him.

Just now, bustamente said:

Toronto media went out of there way to put this narrative out there today 

Wasn't the President of Canadian Tire at the meeting with the Leafs today? They really do have an advantage when signing free agents but (obviously) it does not always work!

1 minute ago, Ducky said:

Subban won the Norris and sat out the gold medal game didn't he?

Didn't Weber dress for it.

I'd rather have Weber on my team but not sure about 2-3 years from now. Weber should only see about 22-23 minutes a game.

Exactly....for my money, Weber's beard is a better player than Subban......but in 5 years, Montreal might think differently about this. Whatever, though, I can't stand PK Subban...

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Confirmed?  Because the rumors were Buffalo and Detroit offering $10m per year.  Im somewhat surprised Tampa wants to pay to be honest if for no other reason than the playoffs showed they could win without him.

Ten million plus waiting through a rebuild in Buffalo. Taxes alone bring these numbers much closer together. Plus, he gets the extra year.