pigseye Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Time to move out the veterans and pull the plug on the season, going to take at least two years to fix this mess. hire the right GM and coach in the offseason It won't take that long. I don't think you realize just how void of talent this team really is, 3/4 of this team needs to be upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 If its Boltus ill officially start to laugh at this organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 yeah yeah yeah we have no one worth a damn on the team, joe mack was worse than hitler blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Canadian starters, Riders vs. Bombers... Riders - Getzlaf, Labatte, Picard, Best, Heenan, Shologan, Foley, Butler. Bombers - Muamba, Muamba, Greaves, Sorensen, Swiston, Watson, Kohlert, Etienne. If you were looking for a reason why the Bombers can't compete... well there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Well in fairness the Blue were not expecting both Hall and Pierce to go down with injuries so they probably were looking at a body to come in as a 3rd stringer/4th guy. So I won't crucify them if it is Boltus. I will crucify them if they don't bring in new blood at o-line and receiver though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Time to move out the veterans and pull the plug on the season, going to take at least two years to fix this mess. Two years to be competitive which I'll define at 7-9 wins and the playoffs or two years to be a legit contender, which I'll define as 10+ wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Time to move out the veterans and pull the plug on the season, going to take at least two years to fix this mess. Two years to be competitive which I'll define at 7-9 wins and the playoffs or two years to be a legit contender, which I'll define as 10+ wins? At least two years just to make the playoffs again, every other team is at least competitive right now, we have some catching up to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 The thing is, they said it was going to be a CFL vet. How is Boltus a vet if he's never even been a full time starter. Just because someone was in the CFL for a year it doesn't make them a vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Good I hope they bring in 10 QBs. Once we go through them all maybe they will realize the oline is the problem! At one point in the second 4 Hamilton defenders walked through the line untouched.....4!!! It's like it was a magic trick. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Time to move out the veterans and pull the plug on the season, going to take at least two years to fix this mess. Two years to be competitive which I'll define at 7-9 wins and the playoffs or two years to be a legit contender, which I'll define as 10+ wins? At least two years just to make the playoffs again, every other team is at least competitive right now, we have some catching up to do. Saskatchewan went from 1-7 on Labour Day in 2011 and a final record of 5-13, to 8-10 the next season and look where they are now. A quick turnaround is definitely possible. But the Riders drafted well, were aggressive in free agency, and most importantly already had a good QB in place. I don't know if the Bombers can replicate that, but it wouldn't be totally out of the question if they play their cards right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 yeah yeah yeah we have no one worth a damn on the team, joe mack was worse than hitler blah blah blah Ooops! You said Hitler. Tsk, tsk. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Dalton Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Time to move out the veterans and pull the plug on the season, going to take at least two years to fix this mess. Two years to be competitive which I'll define at 7-9 wins and the playoffs or two years to be a legit contender, which I'll define as 10+ wins? At least two years just to make the playoffs again, every other team is at least competitive right now, we have some catching up to do. Saskatchewan went from 1-7 on Labour Day in 2011 and a final record of 5-13, to 8-10 the next season and look where they are now. A quick turnaround is definitely possible. But the Riders drafted well, were aggressive in free agency, and most importantly already had a good QB in place. I don't know if the Bombers can replicate that, but it wouldn't be totally out of the question if they play their cards right. C'mon, the Riders were a talented team that needed some tweaking, this outfit needs a QB, oline, receivers, linebackers and DB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxon Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 When considering a vet that might be available, I have a short list....all are really stop gap, not long term solutions. Free Agents: Porter Jyles McPherson Jackson (Jarious) Brink Available by trade (speculative) Elliot Joseph Glenn My guess would be Jyles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Time to move out the veterans and pull the plug on the season, going to take at least two years to fix this mess. Two years to be competitive which I'll define at 7-9 wins and the playoffs or two years to be a legit contender, which I'll define as 10+ wins? At least two years just to make the playoffs again, every other team is at least competitive right now, we have some catching up to do. Saskatchewan went from 1-7 on Labour Day in 2011 and a final record of 5-13, to 8-10 the next season and look where they are now. A quick turnaround is definitely possible. But the Riders drafted well, were aggressive in free agency, and most importantly already had a good QB in place. I don't know if the Bombers can replicate that, but it wouldn't be totally out of the question if they play their cards right. C'mon, the Riders were a talented team that needed some tweaking, this outfit needs a QB, oline, receivers, linebackers and DB's. A talented team that needed some tweaking? Since 2011 they replaced their RB, 4 out of 5 starting OL, 3 out of 5 starting receivers, 3 out of 4 starting DL, all 3 linebackers, and their entire secondary. Tell me again how they only needed some tweaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 They were coming off 4 straight winning seasons, they had talent, they just went off the rails for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 They were coming off 4 straight winning seasons, they had talent, they just went off the rails for a bit. Rebuilt 80% of their roster and their entire coaching staff after 2011. All they had was a good QB and a great receiver and they built around that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I heard on the other site that Boltus is enroute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 They were coming off 4 straight winning seasons, they had talent, they just went off the rails for a bit. Rebuilt 80% of their roster and their entire coaching staff after 2011. All they had was a good QB and a great receiver and they built around that. I'll take your word for it but guys like Getzlaf, Best & Shologan have been there for 6 or 7 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 They were coming off 4 straight winning seasons, they had talent, they just went off the rails for a bit. Rebuilt 80% of their roster and their entire coaching staff after 2011. All they had was a good QB and a great receiver and they built around that. I'll take your word for it but guys like Getzlaf, Best & Shologan have been there for 6 or 7 years now. True but that's only 3 players out of a 46 man roster, and Best is probably their worst offensive lineman right now. I'd stack Henoc Muamba and Chris Greaves up against those guys. The point is that over 2 years, they went out and rebuilt their Canadian talent by getting Labatte, Picard, Heenan, Watman, Hurl, Foley, Milo, etc. The only Canadians left from 2011 are Getzlaf, Shologan, Butler, McHenry, Huclack and McCollough. Six guys. And they totally revamped their import talent at every position. The one thing they really had in place already was a good QB. As soon as we can find that, we should be able to return to being competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 If Boltus is brought in I doubt he's the veteran being referred to by Burke. With both Pierce and Hall injured it's quite possible the Bombers will be bringing in more than 1 QB. McPherson maybe or is he still hurt? McPherson's injured? When considering a vet that might be available, I have a short list....all are really stop gap, not long term solutions. Free Agents: Jackson (Jarious) Jarious Jackson is the Lions QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I think its possible for them to be competitve (7-9 wins, possible playoff spot) next year. Saskatchewan (from 2011-2012), and Calgary (2004-2005) are recent examples. However man do we need work. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 You guys are definitely more optimistic than me, it took Ritchie 3 years to get things turned around the last time it was this bad and if he hadn't stumbled upon Khari in BC, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Watching Buck play quarterback reminds me of the way Durant plays. Or did Jimmy spell it Durante? When the Bombers said they revised about 50% of their playbook, I didn't think they meant they took out the 50% that worked. Who would have thought that our play of the game would be from a guy who's been kicking here for barely 3 weeks. Buck left the game with an unknown injury, which happened at an unknown time, the extent of which are also unknown. It seems Buck and the unknown are well acquainted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 When considering a vet that might be available, I have a short list....all are really stop gap, not long term solutions. Free Agents: Porter Jyles McPherson Jackson (Jarious) Brink Available by trade (speculative) Elliot Joseph Glenn My guess would be Jyles. No way in hell Glenn is going to get traded by Calgary... not a chance. Me thinks Tate would be more likely purely because they don't want his injury issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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