**** happens... Here's one on a smaller scale in Calgary...

 

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/shaganappi-bridge-delay

The building inspectors in Calgary (and probably Alberta) are spread very thin. Friends of ours bought a brand-new expensive home in the Evergreen area of Calgary. They soon noticed that the dryer wasn"t working properly, so Bob followed the dryer vent duct all the way up to the attic. He was stunned to see that the duct was not connected to any vent, but just dumped onto the insulation, lying there pumping all the dryer moisture into the attic. Bob called the city inspector who told him to call the builder who told him to call the mechanical contractor who told him to call the new home warranty program and no one accepted responsibility or offered to fix it.

The building inspector told Bob that they had 20 minutes to inspect every home, and that included travel time. Bob eventually gave up in disgust and put his own vent cap in. He went up the street and told all his neighbours- every one of the 21 other homes had the same deficiency and none were fixed by the builder.

So now this is a separatist thread….

So now this is a separatist thread….

 

We prefer the term "sovereignist" ... ;-)

But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

 

I have read that Norway has close to a trillion dollars saved from oil revenue.

 

Alberta also had the once in five hundred year flood…

 

cost a lot of money… billions…

 

 

"But the largest component of the province’s spending is its disaster relief program — which makes direct payments to individuals, organizations and small businesses for uninsured losses. A significant portion of those expenditures will ultimately be reimbursed by the federal government and Alberta has already asked for a $500-million advance from Ottawa.

 

…Calgary herald

 

But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

 

I have read that Norway has close to a trillion dollars saved from oil revenue.

 

Alberta also had the once in five hundred year flood…

 

cost a lot of money… billions…

 

 

"But the largest component of the province’s spending is its disaster relief program — which makes direct payments to individuals, organizations and small businesses for uninsured losses. A significant portion of those expenditures will ultimately be reimbursed by the federal government and Alberta has already asked for a $500-million advance from Ottawa.

 

…Calgary herald

 

Idiots

http://business.financialpost.com/2015/02/24/end-of-oil-and-gas-boom-shakes-oil-rich-norwegians-out-of-utopian-reverie/

Just had a guy working in our attic here in Calgary.  He says there are major problems with inspectors and shoddy contractors.  Just had a plumber in saying the same thing.  The city says they have no money for inspectors........such B.S.   We're lucky, we just bought a 1989 house.  All good.

Experts are saying 1-3 years depending on who is talking. Why will it be a **** place to work & live? Cuts to health care, education, post secondary education, seniors, the disabled, people on assisted living. Not enough long term beds for seniors in need so acute care & surgical beds are being used which means access to speedy health care in our hospitals are compromised. Higher taxes on everything as well as increased,user fees. Not enough schools being built, hospital shortage & the list goes on & on. Yeah, the Alberta DISadvantage alright. 

You know the sad part? The sheeple that live in this province will elect King James & his Royal Court of Jesters. He'll make his cuts, do his thing.... maybe even balance the books someday on the backs of every Albertan except corporations. Then the King will leave for Ottawa hoping to become Emperor of This Great Land. In Alberta, the economy will eventually improve as oil prices rise. Everyone will hail King James as the wise, all knowing ruler that he wasn't. Then another unknown King will succeed him. The economy will be good again so the new King will start spending once more to supposedly give back from the loyal suck...errr... subjects to buy their votes. The debt & deficit will rise once more & 20 years from now Alberta will be in the same boat once again. So I don't see why Albertans should give this morally & ethically bankrupt party another chance. King James saw to that by buying off 9 Wild Rose MLA's including their leader Danielle Smith who vows one day she'll be vindicated. And they repealed the law that forbids deficits. And fixed election dates, well hey...

I hate the bloody Progressive Conservatives. Stelmach & Redford squandered & pissed all our money away. And the lemmings here will vote them back in. 

 

RANT OFF!

Say what you will, healthcare here is waaaaaaay better than what we left behind in Manitoba.  I love it here.

Health practitioners in Calgary have done more for my chronic problems in 18 months than Manitoba dr.s did in 14 years. 

Couldn't Alberta keep spending and avoid huge cuts if they scraped the flat tax? Added a PST?

You have to live here to understand why a PST just won't fly. Every other province has one but us. #redbadgeofcourage

 

Couldn't Alberta keep spending and avoid huge cuts if they scraped the flat tax? Added a PST?

You have to live here to understand why a PST just won't fly. Every other province has one but us. #redbadgeofcourage

 

I love the Mercer clip for exactly this reason. It really captures the feelings of Alberta. I think everyone in the province knows that a provincial sales tax and a progressive tax rate rather than a flat tax would be good... but it's Alberta damn it! It's different out here, we don't need to tax people. 

Oh, I understand the reluctance but am pretty sure a progressive tax rate versus a flat tax alone would eliminate most if not all that deficit. Add in a PST and hey, no cuts.

Just had a guy working in our attic here in Calgary.  He says there are major problems with inspectors and shoddy contractors.  Just had a plumber in saying the same thing.  The city says they have no money for inspectors........such B.S.   We're lucky, we just bought a 1989 house.  All good.

I rented a house in Edgemont (area in Calgary) for a year back in 1993-94. That house had been slapped together by some construction guys in the late 1970's boom time and it was such a piece of ****. Crap was falling off the walls and the insulation was totally substandard, heating bills even in 1994 were a joke, can't even imagine what they would be now. And Edgemont at that time anyway was considered an upscale neighbourhood. That's one of the pitfalls of living in a boom and bust economy.

Albertans remind me of Rider fans so quick to tell you how great they are compared to the rest of country.

Albertans remind me of Rider fans so quick to tell you how great they are compared to the rest of country.

That's because Ontario and Quebec have kept the rest of the country under their heels for the entirety of our countries history and now that the tables are turning god damned rights it's payback time.

 

 

Couldn't Alberta keep spending and avoid huge cuts if they scraped the flat tax? Added a PST?

You have to live here to understand why a PST just won't fly. Every other province has one but us. #redbadgeofcourage

 

I love the Mercer clip for exactly this reason. It really captures the feelings of Alberta. I think everyone in the province knows that a provincial sales tax and a progressive tax rate rather than a flat tax would be good... but it's Alberta damn it! It's different out here, we don't need to tax people. 

 

Sane people from other provinces... We're all from other provinces... cross that border from BC or Saskatchewan & they lose their minds. NO TAXES!!!

BC needs high taxes. We get all of the Prairie people moving here in their sixties and sucking down our health care. They earn all their money and pay all of their taxes in Alberta their whole lives and then come here and suck down our health care. I don't blame people for wanting to live here, but we could use some health care equalization payments. Or do what Quebec does and charge a tax when you move here.

We were really smart here in BC too - we had converted to an HST so that everyone from Alberta was finally paying sales tax here, and then the boneheads voted it out and opted to go back to a PST, which Albertans are exempt from paying. Brilliant. So now every summer we get 1 million Albertans/Saskers/Manitobans flooding into BC for holidays and not one of them is paying a dime of sales tax. Just brilliant, the boneheads who live in this province.

BC needs high taxes. We get all of the Prairie people moving here in their sixties and sucking down our health care. They earn all their money and pay all of their taxes in Alberta their whole lives and then come here and suck down our health care. I don't blame people for wanting to live here, but we could use some health care equalization payments. Or do what Quebec does and charge a tax when you move here.

We were really smart here in BC too - we had converted to an HST so that everyone from Alberta was finally paying sales tax here, and then the boneheads voted it out and opted to go back to a PST, which Albertans are exempt from paying. Brilliant. So now every summer we get 1 million Albertans/Saskers/Manitobans flooding into BC for holidays and not one of them is paying a dime of sales tax. Just brilliant, the boneheads who live in this province.

Hey Dee, I'll be moving out to BC in about a decade. I'll be the one who will pay down the debt here in Alberta & then sponge off you guys in retirement. Lookin' forward to it.  Of course you don't mention the billions of dollars the retirees from other places bring with them when they move that they put  into the BC economy. 

Hey Dee, I'll be moving out to BC in about a decade. I'll be the one who will pay down the debt here in Alberta & then sponge off you guys in retirement. Lookin' forward to it.  Of course you don't mention the billions of dollars the retirees from other places bring with them when they move that they put  into the BC economy.

It's KBF, not Dee. I don't mention it because you sure don't see it. Old people may bring a lot of cash but they sure don't spend it. Other than walking in and buying houses for $600K cash. I am lucky I bought my house 15 years ago, I don't know how people here buy houses with the piddly Okanagan salaries that are paid. And Vancouver prices for houses are even worse, though at least there they pay half decent salaries to professionals.

Anyway that being said ISO, come on out - it would be great to have someone else other just Tacklewasher to watch Bomber games with.

 

Hey Dee, I'll be moving out to BC in about a decade. I'll be the one who will pay down the debt here in Alberta & then sponge off you guys in retirement. Lookin' forward to it.  Of course you don't mention the billions of dollars the retirees from other places bring with them when they move that they put  into the BC economy.

It's KBF, not Dee. I don't mention it because you sure don't see it. Old people may bring a lot of cash but they sure don't spend it. Other than walking in and buying houses for $600K cash. I am lucky I bought my house 15 years ago, I don't know how people here buy houses with the piddly Okanagan salaries that are paid. And Vancouver prices for houses are even worse, though at least there they pay half decent salaries to professionals.

Anyway that being said ISO, come on out - it would be great to have someone else other just Tacklewasher to watch Bomber games with.

 

See ya in a decade.

Hey Dee, I'll be moving out to BC in about a decade. I'll be the one who will pay down the debt here in Alberta & then sponge off you guys in retirement. Lookin' forward to it.  Of course you don't mention the billions of dollars the retirees from other places bring with them when they move that they put  into the BC economy. 

 

 

Talk about crossed messages. C'mon down iso, it's a great place to live and enjoy the fruits of your labor. The climate, the people and yes, even the taxes are fine. It's just the way it is. But if I'm not mistaken, even you 'mighty' Albertans have to leave your PST money here if you take possession of purchases here.

 

Hey Dee, I'll be moving out to BC in about a decade. I'll be the one who will pay down the debt here in Alberta & then sponge off you guys in retirement. Lookin' forward to it.  Of course you don't mention the billions of dollars the retirees from other places bring with them when they move that they put  into the BC economy. 

 

 

Talk about crossed messages. C'mon down iso, it's a great place to live and enjoy the fruits of your labor. The climate, the people and yes, even the taxes are fine. It's just the way it is. But if I'm not mistaken, even you 'mighty' Albertans have to leave your PST money here if you take possession of purchases here.

 

I pay PST whenever I'm in BC. Don't even think twice about it. Although the price of gas on the Lower Mainland makes me gasp. Yeah, I hope I make it to 70. That's the planned retirement date. My wife is younger than me so she has to work another 10 years. I'll keep going as long as my health is fine. I have a few aches & pains now. I need 2 knee replacements & I don't get around as fast as I used to. But I am looking forward to getting away from the winters on the Prairies.This year has been different as it's been so warm but it's an anomaly.

I just want to say how much you guys in BC suck with your nice stupid weather and dumb mountains and how much I hate you.

 

That is all.

I just want to say how much you guys in BC suck with your nice stupid weather and dumb mountains and how much I hate you.

 

That is all.

Had to go back to Wpg in Feb for a wedding. Shortest trip of my life. Even though it wasn't that cold, I missed the wonderful weather and the lovely mountains.

 

And who says I WANT to watch a game with iso

My old man went from Pinawa to Kamloops and now Nanaimo. He'll be 60 this summer and says it's the best move he ever made in his life. I called him a ***** and can't believe he'd ever think about being that far away from the family and everything, but hey, whatever cranks your tractor, I guess. 

My old man went from Pinawa to Kamloops and now Nanaimo. He'll be 60 this summer and says it's the best move he ever made in his life. I called him a ***** and can't believe he'd ever think about being that far away from the family and everything, but hey, whatever cranks your tractor, I guess.

Pinawa? Has he stopped glowing yet?