Floyd Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Rankings are not everything but they are not 'meaningless' - these are pretty experienced football guys putting them together. All the GMs pretty much followed them last year except for Popp and Sleepy Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Rankings are not everything but they are not 'meaningless' - these are pretty experienced football guys putting them together. All the GMs pretty much followed them last year except for Popp and Sleepy Joe. Last year you were quite vocal about wanting us to draft number 10 ranked Mike Edem second overall, but this year number 9 ranked Goossen isn't good enough for second overall. I think you're just picking and choosing when you want to believe the rankings and when you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 How exactly are the CFL/CIS scouting bureau rankings compiled? Do they speak with CFL GM's and/or scouts as part of the process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Any receivers who might be worth a look in the third? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Rankings are not everything but they are not 'meaningless' - these are pretty experienced football guys putting them together. All the GMs pretty much followed them last year except for Popp and Sleepy Joe. Last year you were quite vocal about wanting us to draft number 10 ranked Mike Edem second overall, but this year number 9 ranked Goossen isn't good enough for second overall. I think you're just picking and choosing when you want to believe the rankings and when you don't. No, I just mean that the top 15 guys are pretty much the top 15 guys in the draft... if anything, I wish the grading would include NFL potential. Edem was by far the best talent at his position last year... this year, the best talents are Lavertu, Coombs, Smith, Bailey, Gill... these are as close you get to sure things in a draft. after that, things kind of drop off I would still pick Coombs but it doesn't appear to be in the cards. So, its either Lavertu or Smith or trade down to 5 and 12 - that type of thing There should be a good o-lineman available at 20th... Tchissakid Player, Terry Hart...? We seem to be forgetting that we have players that can step into Centre position and read a CFL defence as well as Goossen. Morely probably would be a better Centre than a guard and, well, anything is an upgrade from Sorenson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I honestly believe that a robotic arm to hand the ball off to the QB hiding behind a stack of old tires would be a better center than Justin Sorenson. johnzo and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Rankings are not everything but they are not 'meaningless' - these are pretty experienced football guys putting them together. All the GMs pretty much followed them last year except for Popp and Sleepy Joe. Last year you were quite vocal about wanting us to draft number 10 ranked Mike Edem second overall, but this year number 9 ranked Goossen isn't good enough for second overall. I think you're just picking and choosing when you want to believe the rankings and when you don't. No, I just mean that the top 15 guys are pretty much the top 15 guys in the draft... if anything, I wish the grading would include NFL potential. Edem was by far the best talent at his position last year... this year, the best talents are Lavertu, Coombs, Smith, Bailey, Gill... these are as close you get to sure things in a draft. after that, things kind of drop off I would still pick Coombs but it doesn't appear to be in the cards. So, its either Lavertu or Smith or trade down to 5 and 12 - that type of thing There should be a good o-lineman available at 20th... Tchissakid Player, Terry Hart...? We seem to be forgetting that we have players that can step into Centre position and read a CFL defence as well as Goossen. Morely probably would be a better Centre than a guard and, well, anything is an upgrade from Sorenson. I'm just curious ... how much CIS do you watch? Maybe we could get a CIS discussion thread going next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 How much will people freak if the Bombers end up picking a guy who was projected to be a late 2nd round pick as their 1st selection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 No, I just mean that the top 15 guys are pretty much the top 15 guys in the draft... if anything, I wish the grading would include NFL potential. Edem was by far the best talent at his position last year... this year, the best talents are Lavertu, Coombs, Smith, Bailey, Gill... these are as close you get to sure things in a draft. after that, things kind of drop off I would still pick Coombs but it doesn't appear to be in the cards. So, its either Lavertu or Smith or trade down to 5 and 12 - that type of thing There should be a good o-lineman available at 20th... Tchissakid Player, Terry Hart...? We seem to be forgetting that we have players that can step into Centre position and read a CFL defence as well as Goossen. Morely probably would be a better Centre than a guard and, well, anything is an upgrade from Sorenson. You know what, I agree with pretty much everything you're saying. I'd move Morley to Centre and draft Evan Gill or Quinn Smith to help out on defence, rather than gamble on the #2 pick becoming our starting centre. But what I'm saying is that IF they truly believe that Goossen can step in and be our starting centre, then the scouting bureau rankings really shouldn't matter... a starting centre is worth the second overall pick no matter how you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I honestly believe that a robotic arm to hand the ball off to the QB hiding behind a stack of old tires would be a better center than Justin Sorenson.the imagery of this made me snort right out loud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I don't watch enough CIS... just internet vid, articles and stuff. I live in the north and don't even have a TV. But I would be up for a CIS thread now that it seems player performance might actually have some affect on our drafting strategy... I am totally bummed out that we missed out on Pawel Kruba though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'll trust bob wylies opinion. If we take lavertu or goosen, im confident they will turn out to be a good pick because wylie obviously will have a say. Honestly, we probably have the best oline coach in the CFL now, if he thinks goosen or lavertu are worth the #2 pick, then do it. No questions asked. Gotta trust the guys in charge to make the right decisions here. Wylie is a very respected oline coach, I'll trust he can turn whoever we take a 2 into a starting player for us (assuming its an olineman which i think it will be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'll trust bob wylies opinion. If we take lavertu or goosen, im confident they will turn out to be a good pick because wylie obviously will have a say. Honestly, we probably have the best oline coach in the CFL now, if he thinks goosen or lavertu are worth the #2 pick, then do it. No questions asked. Gotta trust the guys in charge to make the right decisions here. Wylie is a very respected oline coach, I'll trust he can turn whoever we take a 2 into a starting player for us (assuming its an olineman which i think it will be) you sound like someone from the other Bombers forum site. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'll trust bob wylies opinion. If we take lavertu or goosen, im confident they will turn out to be a good pick because wylie obviously will have a say. Honestly, we probably have the best oline coach in the CFL now, if he thinks goosen or lavertu are worth the #2 pick, then do it. No questions asked. Gotta trust the guys in charge to make the right decisions here. Wylie is a very respected oline coach, I'll trust he can turn whoever we take a 2 into a starting player for us (assuming its an olineman which i think it will be) you sound like someone from the other Bombers forum site. Do i? I don't have an account there. What did i say though that wasn't true? why should i trust fans opinions over bob wylies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'll trust bob wylies opinion. If we take lavertu or goosen, im confident they will turn out to be a good pick because wylie obviously will have a say. Honestly, we probably have the best oline coach in the CFL now, if he thinks goosen or lavertu are worth the #2 pick, then do it. No questions asked. Gotta trust the guys in charge to make the right decisions here. Wylie is a very respected oline coach, I'll trust he can turn whoever we take a 2 into a starting player for us (assuming its an olineman which i think it will be) you sound like someone from the other Bombers forum site. Do i? I don't have an account there. What did i say though that wasn't true? why should i trust fans opinions over bob wylies? chill man, i didn't say what your saying is not true. i just said that you sound like someone from the other site. that's all. but from your last post, i kinda sense you know who i am referring too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'll trust bob wylies opinion. If we take lavertu or goosen, im confident they will turn out to be a good pick because wylie obviously will have a say. Honestly, we probably have the best oline coach in the CFL now, if he thinks goosen or lavertu are worth the #2 pick, then do it. No questions asked. Gotta trust the guys in charge to make the right decisions here. Wylie is a very respected oline coach, I'll trust he can turn whoever we take a 2 into a starting player for us (assuming its an olineman which i think it will be) you sound like someone from the other Bombers forum site. Do i? I don't have an account there. What did i say though that wasn't true? why should i trust fans opinions over bob wylies? chill man, i didn't say what your saying is not true. i just said that you sound like someone from the other site. that's all. but from your last post, i kinda sense you know who i am referring too. the first word in the dictionary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'll trust bob wylies opinion. If we take lavertu or goosen, im confident they will turn out to be a good pick because wylie obviously will have a say. Honestly, we probably have the best oline coach in the CFL now, if he thinks goosen or lavertu are worth the #2 pick, then do it. No questions asked. Gotta trust the guys in charge to make the right decisions here. Wylie is a very respected oline coach, I'll trust he can turn whoever we take a 2 into a starting player for us (assuming its an olineman which i think it will be) you sound like someone from the other Bombers forum site. Do i? I don't have an account there. What did i say though that wasn't true? why should i trust fans opinions over bob wylies? Everyone knows you're "theedge204" from over at the other forum. It's pretty obvious. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'll trust bob wylies opinion. If we take lavertu or goosen, im confident they will turn out to be a good pick because wylie obviously will have a say. Honestly, we probably have the best oline coach in the CFL now, if he thinks goosen or lavertu are worth the #2 pick, then do it. No questions asked. Gotta trust the guys in charge to make the right decisions here. Wylie is a very respected oline coach, I'll trust he can turn whoever we take a 2 into a starting player for us (assuming its an olineman which i think it will be) you sound like someone from the other Bombers forum site. Do i? I don't have an account there. What did i say though that wasn't true? why should i trust fans opinions over bob wylies? Everyone knows you're "theedge204" from over at the other forum. It's pretty obvious. That's definitely what I thought. The wordiness of some of his posts gives it away. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 wordiness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 wordiness? wordiness Use Wordiness in a sentence word·y [wur-dee] Show IPA adjective, word·i·er, word·i·est. 1. characterized by or given to the use of many, or too many, words; verbose: She grew impatient at hiswordy reply. 2.pertaining to or consisting of words; verbal. Origin: before 1100; Middle English; Old English wordig. See word, -y1 Related forms word·i·ly, adverb word·i·ness, noun Synonyms 1. diffuse, talkative, loquacious, voluble. Wordy, prolix, redundant, pleonastic all mean using more wordsthan necessary to convey a desired meaning. Wordy the broadest and least specific of these terms, may,in addition to indicating an excess of words, suggest a garrulousness or loquaciousness: a wordy, gossipyaccount of a simple incident. Prolix refers to speech or writing extended to great and tedious length withinconsequential details: a prolix style that tells you more than you need or want to know. Redundant andpleonastic both refer to unnecessary repetition of language. Redundant has also a generalized sense of“excessive” or “no longer needed”: the dismissal of redundant employees. In describing language, it mostoften refers to overelaboration through the use of expressions that repeat the sense of other expressionsin a passage: a redundant text crammed with amplifications of the obvious. Pleonastic usually a technicalterm, refers most often to expressions that repeat something that has been said before: “A true fact” and “afree gift” are pleonastic expressions. sweep the leg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 AKA: verbal diarrhea. sweep the leg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 AKA: verbal diarrhea. Geez way to ruin my whole response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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