Unofficial list of FAs out on 3down.

Not a ton of guys I'd want back really.

Dru, Gabe Wallace, MCI, Cam Allen, Griffin,

Maybe for the right price, Sheahan, Clercius

Hallet is good on teams

Tim White played well but is $$$

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Winnipeg Blue Bombers have nearly 30 pending CFL free age...

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers saw their season come to an end on Saturday following a 33-23 loss to the Montreal Alouettes in the East Final. The team’s most high-profile pending free agent is franchise q

Quarterback

Dru Brown (A)
Zach Collaros (A)

Running back

None

Fullback

Michael Chris-Ike (N)

Receiver

Kevens Clercius (N)
Gavin Cobb (N)
Tim White (A)

Offensive line

Stanley Bryant (A)
Patrick Neufeld (N)
Micah Vanterpool (A)
Gabe Wallace (N)

Defensive line

Willie Jefferson (A)
Kydran Jenkins (A)
Thiadric Hansen (G)
Matt Jaworski (A)
Tanner Schmekel (N)

Linebacker

Michael Ayers (A)
Tony Jones (A)
Jovan Santos-Knox (A)
Kyrie Wilson (A)
Jaiden Woodbey (A)

Defensive back

Cam Allen (A)
Michael Griffin II (A)
Nick Hallett (N)
Jake Kelly (N)
Deatrick Nichols (A)

Specialists

Jamieson Sheahan (G)

But how do we know we don't? You think if singer had been quietly released he would have immediately gone somewhere else? Not likely every team has their own scouted guys they like.

The point is dismissing guys because a coach that is known to make bad roster moves, and has his whole tenure here, doesn't play a rookie because they're no good is ludicrous. The CFL is a league where it's all about opportunity. Guy shows a spark give him a chance see where it leads. You can always cut him if it was just a flash. There's actually quite a bit of evidence to show that this team CAN in fact find good rookie players. There's also evidence to support the idea that the coach writes the depth chart in pen at the start of training camp.

12 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

I never said he sucked, I repeated information that was given to me at a point in time that i fully admitted was a bit outdated. I could still be right in that maybe he didn't look good early and it started to click eventually. In fact that is the most likely scenario. I had no basis to form my own opinion, just like those making claims we have studs on our roster that are being denied playing time out of loyalty have no real way of backing that up because they literally have never seen them play. Works both ways.

It seems like nonsense to me that those arguing that we have studs on our roster that being hidden can point to one or two examples over many years as proof they are right. but those pointing out that the other 98% of players rolling into the lineup proved that quality depth was the exception not the rule are told that is nonsense. Proof is in the pudding.

The players themselves would disagree with your theory. Here's a quote from Kramdi that I would put more weight into than 2nd hand info:

“A bunch of guys saw it in camp and throughout practice when he wasn’t on the roster. I remember him making a couple catches on scout team and I looked over at JY and said, ‘We need to find a way to get that guy on the roster.’ He’s special. He’s humble, but he knows it. He’s playing high level football, he’s super talented, and he’s a good kid, too.”

7 hours ago, blue85gold said:

Blew it how? Who is the QB they could have got a year or so ago?

Zach;s skills were eroding as easrly as 4 years ago. We chose to stay the course rather than look for a replacement as there were guys available. We waited too long.

49 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

What you actually said:

"My old coach, a former Bomber, attends practice regularly, and we chat often, he says that both Singer and Frederickson (before his release) were not practicing well and struggling when given reps. This was about a month ago, but his thoughts were neither guy should be kept around."

So yeah you basically came in here saying guy was not worth keeping around, turns out he might have been the best receiver we had on the team. You had a bunch of posts talking about how just trying guys who weren't good enough wouldn't improve things too.

So we can make of this what we will.

Smith was way more impactful at different positions than Kramdi. Maybe a guy like Shay would be too? MCU seemed to have more explosive ability in limited reps than some receivers who dressed ... Again the ultimate question, do we just use guys badly and vets like kramdi get their spots because tenure and intangibles? I don't doubt people when they say kramdi is a smart dude who understands the defense and the positions... But he was shitty at safety and hit or miss as SAM. You gotta build your roster in such a way as to use your pieces the best

Hard to argue let alone have legit discussion with a back Tracker and their opinion is the only...wow

And yeah Wallace sucks cause he can't control his weight...well so did hardrick and how that turn out eh?

And yeah kramdi got his spot cause osh likes him..thats it..he was never best option at sam..he sucks at safety as he never had coverage abilities..hes 30 now and his ceiling has been met..and is likely on downside

Jyst look when he was injured...did we miss him?? Not in the least..prob as a whole playwd better. Guys like Smith got the reps and were impactfull...and when Smith went down..we missed him badly.

So to say trading or cutting a 30 yr old canadian db..who isnt top notch at anyspot but makes more money in the cfl than any other db basically..makes total sense..unless u are Osh

38 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

But how do we know we don't? You think if singer had been quietly released he would have immediately gone somewhere else? Not likely every team has their own scouted guys they like.

The point is dismissing guys because a coach that is known to make bad roster moves, and has his whole tenure here, doesn't play a rookie because they're no good is ludicrous. The CFL is a league where it's all about opportunity. Guy shows a spark give him a chance see where it leads. You can always cut him if it was just a flash. There's actually quite a bit of evidence to show that this team CAN in fact find good rookie players. There's also evidence to support the idea that the coach writes the depth chart in pen at the start of training camp.

I've made that argument before..just cause they weren't picked up means absolutely nothing

Teams have time and money invested into their own guys..and will give them every opp before picking up a rookie TC cut from elsewhere..that's a good way to lose your good scouts as well

No team in the cfl is actively having their scouts at all teams TC's looking for Oshism's and dumb cuts

3 hours ago, 17to85 said:

I actually think he's better at SAM than safety.... Basically Kramdi is the kind of guy who is great depth but if he's one of your top Canadians you have issues.

Imo, the best position for kramdi is wil. Minimize the demand on his coverage requirements, leave him on the short side having to cover less distance.

Smith is soo good at sam, it’s hard to imagine him being more valuable elsewhere. I think you could play him at any lber spot or S with out missing a beat. Which is fantastic, and rare. I’d lean into that instead of running kelly out as the second S.

Shay Id definitely stick at mac. Again, you can develop a ton of utility with his athleticism and skill set, but having a shallow S at mac instead of a guy who can’t get back is gigantic.

If mos is back, and i suspect he will be, I think we will go with Kelly at S, Kramdi at sam, and smith at wil. I think you could actually run kelly solo at S with an imp dime if you plan for it well. I’d much rather go with a good imp, but lots of teams go with a mediocre canadian S at some point in the year.

Kramdi isn’t what you hope for in a top pick, he was that 5-8 years ago. Not today, look at the surge in high impact canadian lbers. The bar has risen.

Wallace isn’t a turnstile or any thing of the sort. He doesn’t need to change his weight more than he needs to remain stable in weight and play beside a competent centre, which he did to end the year.

I didn’t think singer would translate what he did in camp to the field year 1 the way he did, but he 100% earned the chance to try but was held back for a long time.

2 hours ago, Booch said:

I've made that argument before..just cause they weren't picked up means absolutely nothing

Teams have time and money invested into their own guys..and will give them every opp before picking up a rookie TC cut from elsewhere..that's a good way to lose your good scouts as well

No team in the cfl is actively having their scouts at all teams TC's looking for Oshism's and dumb cuts

No one in the cfl scouts other teams that well. A lot of talent goes to waste.

We’ve seen enough guys from bolo, to dobson, randolph and others to say we haven’t come close to making the most of what we bring in and cut good players. Players that would’ve made us better.

Kramdi at sam would be a huge downgrade...Griffin should be a priority signing and keep that spot..the best sam play we have had in yrs outside of when Smith took over when he was injured.

Smith at WIL would be lethal and could do so much there. And from what i see in Shay on teams and how he covers ground and can contain while not allowing forward push id give him every opportunity to earn the chance to play the middle..Smith at WIL..Shay in the middle and Griffin at SAM would enable us to disguise so much..as to who is gonna drop where..who may blitz..who pre snap becomes the central guy of the defence to mess up a centers blocking call.. create a lot of issues, especially with Reese and his abilty to drop off into coverage and take on responsibility in flats..or even middle intermediate as we send one of Griffin or Smith on edge blitz

Kramdi I would be okay with as depth..and possibly safety but only in a traditional sense and not in that free/strong safety thing we do..and get constantly raped in as its always him and Kelly..who i hope we dont resign..Stuart has way more upside so let him take his spot on roster

Curious to see how we set our ratio next yr position wise..and how many declared on each side of ball...and hopefully we dont allow it to influence our FA targets or draft..Get best possible talent that's available..deal with ratio after..weve missed out on enough talent due to our rigidity

Doesn't seem like MOS will be changing his ways anytime soon. Performance and ability is secondary to loyalty/tenure, in his eyes. When asked if Singer should have been in sooner, he stuck with his methodology.

"But I wouldn’t say it was a mistake. We build our roster in a certain way, and when injuries happen, guys get their opportunities."

Winnipeg Free Press

Winnipeg Blue Bombers' inconsistency, team’s No. 1 issue:...

Mike O’Shea truly believed the Winnipeg Blue Bombers were going to end the season on top.

24 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Doesn't seem like MOS will be changing his ways anytime soon. Performance and ability is secondary to loyalty/tenure, in his eyes. When asked if Singer should have been in sooner, he stuck with his methodology.

"But I wouldn’t say it was a mistake. We build our roster in a certain way, and when injuries happen, guys get their opportunities."

Winnipeg Free Press

Winnipeg Blue Bombers' inconsistency, team’s No. 1 issue:...

Mike O’Shea truly believed the Winnipeg Blue Bombers were going to end the season on top.

I'm not sure if I'm more annoyed by O'Shea or Mike Kelly handle it internally bs..... either way the shtick is running old.

MOS = The Same Old Song

No love for T. Jones? I thought he played well this year, especially against MTL getting to him in the first meeting and playoff game.

I’m excited about the players with have under contract next year. Hopefully we can add some good Fa’s.

I think dru brown could give us 8-10 wins at least.

9 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

My biggest issue with getting rid of Wallace, is he is at the very least a good backup/fringe starter. And we are staring at likely 2 starting spots to be open with guys retiring. Replacing 2 spots on the Oline is asking for trouble....replacing 3 is a disaster waiting to happen.

He's definitely a fridge opener....oh wait you said fringe, my bad...

6 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Doesn't seem like MOS will be changing his ways anytime soon. Performance and ability is secondary to loyalty/tenure, in his eyes. When asked if Singer should have been in sooner, he stuck with his methodology.

"But I wouldn’t say it was a mistake. We build our roster in a certain way, and when injuries happen, guys get their opportunities."

Winnipeg Free Press

Winnipeg Blue Bombers' inconsistency, team’s No. 1 issue:...

Mike O’Shea truly believed the Winnipeg Blue Bombers were going to end the season on top.

And yup..not the ideal best way either..guys not the swiftest..nor will change as he not able to