2025 CFL (Non-Bombers) Season

[SpeedFlex27]

4 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Difference is this year, half the QBs aren’t 38. 
 

Kyle does need to wake up and imo needs to take action to justify an extension. It’s much easier to replace a gm in the cfl than a hc, especially with the guys we have. And while a lot deserves to be on mos plate, Walters as his boss is responsible for his failings too. I don’t think Walter’s will replace mos so I think the hot seat will pass to him. 

Walters used to be one of the sharpest GM's in the CFL a few years ago. He was aggressive & took chances. He wasn't afraid to spend money & he had a lot of success. Lately, the past few years it's not even been close. We just can't have this kind of complacency by Walters or MOS. As far as Osh goes, some of his comments & decisions are like he lives in the 4th dimension. Things need to change. 

Edited 15 hours ago by SpeedFlex27

[SpeedFlex27]

6 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Difference is this year, half the QBs aren’t 38. 
 

Kyle does need to wake up and imo needs to take action to justify an extension. It’s much easier to replace a gm in the cfl than a hc, especially with the guys we have. And while a lot deserves to be on mos plate, Walters as his boss is responsible for his failings too. I don’t think Walter’s will replace mos so I think the hot seat will pass to him. 

A few years back I kept hearing a rumour Walters may want to go back to U Sports as an AD at a university in Southern Ontario to be closer to his family. That might be where he ultimately ends up. 

[Booch]

8 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

A few years back I kept hearing a rumour Walters may want to go back to U Sports as an AD at a university in Southern Ontario to be closer to his family. That might be where he ultimately ends up. 

maybe he takes osh??...lol

[ShyGuy]

16 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Difference is this year, half the QBs aren’t 38. 
 

Kyle does need to wake up and imo needs to take action to justify an extension. It’s much easier to replace a gm in the cfl than a hc, especially with the guys we have. And while a lot deserves to be on mos plate, Walters as his boss is responsible for his failings too. I don’t think Walter’s will replace mos so I think the hot seat will pass to him. 

This kind of stuff is hard to look up. Obviously if the timing was right and Walters was out Ted Goveia would have been next man up... Has there been much overall success with hiring a GM outside of the organization and keeping the HC on? It seems like for the most part the incoming GM would want their guy in there. Looking at current staffs it looks like the only team with a coach not hired by the GM is Hamilton? And Milanovic is just in his second year there. 

I guess the statement here is that yeah it's probably easier to replace the GM, but historically I think that ends up with a HC replacement pretty soon thereafter.

[wbbfan]

45 minutes ago, ShyGuy said:

This kind of stuff is hard to look up. Obviously if the timing was right and Walters was out Ted Goveia would have been next man up... Has there been much overall success with hiring a GM outside of the organization and keeping the HC on? It seems like for the most part the incoming GM would want their guy in there. Looking at current staffs it looks like the only team with a coach not hired by the GM is Hamilton? And Milanovic is just in his second year there. 

I guess the statement here is that yeah it's probably easier to replace the GM, but historically I think that ends up with a HC replacement pretty soon thereafter.

IMO a lot of the hc and gm changes are full on rebuilds after collapse. Hamilton is the predominant current case to look at. Dickenson moved up and of course kept him self as hc, boy that wouldn’t be a fix here lol. Ringmaiden moved up last year and brought in Buck this year. 
 

I don’t think we need to emulate other teams in doing this though. Outliers work too, like the Steelers never firing hcs. 
 Danny Mac interviewed for the Hamilton job. If he’s interested in the life style change of living up here full time I’d  consider promoting him from with in. Sunderland could be a candidate as well though far from top of my list. 
 Having Deslauriers and Gulakow is a big help for supporting gms too. You have a guy who knows the Canadians scouting and draft extremely well and a guy who can do day to day football ops stuff and logistics. 

[Booch]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

IMO a lot of the hc and gm changes are full on rebuilds after collapse. Hamilton is the predominant current case to look at. Dickenson moved up and of course kept him self as hc, boy that wouldn’t be a fix here lol. Ringmaiden moved up last year and brought in Buck this year. 
 

I don’t think we need to emulate other teams in doing this though. Outliers work too, like the Steelers never firing hcs. 
 Danny Mac interviewed for the Hamilton job. If he’s interested in the life style change of living up here full time I’d  consider promoting him from with in. Sunderland could be a candidate as well though far from top of my list. 
 Having Deslauriers and Gulakow is a big help for supporting gms too. You have a guy who knows the Canadians scouting and draft extremely well and a guy who can do day to day football ops stuff and logistics. 

Our biggest issue I dont think is G.M....Other than he isn't being the firm Boss he should be and allows his HC to dictate too much....speculating here a bit but from what I see....know....and have been through thats my take in it. There def a disconnect there and a differing opionion on the type of player....or qualities in a player that is being kept/re-upped and leaned on....also everyone being buddy buddy too doesn't help...as it clouds decision making and not wanting to hurt feelings....players included...and thats a bad metric and has us where we at now

Also Osh need to actually coach...be in the room....rattle cages for a lack of a better word....he allows too much self governing and has caused this malaise and comfort level that also is a bad thing and nobody has a worry in the world...only ones with worries are the youmg/newer guys who cant wait to get out of their contracts and move on

[rebusrankin]

This is not meant to dump on MOS but he's in his 11th year here as head coach. That is a long time in any sport. Seriously how many coaches in the CFL last 10+ years.

[ShyGuy]

https://3downnation.com/2025/07/21/edmonton-elks-mark-kilam-non-committal-on-canadian-qb-tre-fords-starting-status-after-benching/

 

What was old is new again 

Edited 55 minutes ago by ShyGuy

[Booch]

4 minutes ago, ShyGuy said:

https://3downnation.com/2025/07/21/edmonton-elks-mark-kilam-non-committal-on-canadian-qb-tre-fords-starting-status-after-benching/

 

What was old is new again 

at least he is smart about it....kudos to him....and willing to play the best option available

[HardCoreBlue]

6 minutes ago, Booch said:

at least he is smart about it....kudos to him....and willing to play the best option available

Great that means more player interviews with CF, ugh.

 

[rebusrankin]

1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Great that means more player interviews with CF, ugh.

 

"I'd like to thank God for the opportunity to start again. Its a blessing. I have also been reading comments from fans online and I need to say shut the front door to all those haters."

[Rich]

39 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

This is not meant to dump on MOS but he's in his 11th year here as head coach. That is a long time in any sport. Seriously how many coaches in the CFL last 10+ years.

O'Shea has been head coach since 2014.  Closest to that would be Dickenson who has been head coach since 2016. 

Calgary missed the playoffs last year before being 3rd in the West the prior 3 years, losing the semi final each year.  Though their record the last three years was 12 - 6, 6 - 12, 5 -12-1.  So one of those playoff years was just because everyone else in the West was bad.

Calgary seems to have revitalized itself this year.  Can O'Shea do that if we are entering a downward trend?   Do we need to go through 2 years of mediocrity before that happens?