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The Star Wars Thread

The thread for all things Star Wars from the box to the big screen and all things in between.

Obi-Wan, Chewy, R2D2, Leia, Spock, Rey, Kylo, etc.

 

 

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Andor is great.  Star Wars leveling up.

Star Wars has become a British sci fi franchise. Their ideas & styles of sci fi is different what is done here in the US & Canada when it comes to acting & writing. To me, they've strayed away from the vision George Lucas had for Star Wars. Twenty five yars ago, I could have debated this issue with other Star Wars fans here but today I barely know the names of the main characters anymore. I just know that I've watched every Star Wars movie & just can't get excited about it anymore. If a new motion picture comes out I'll probably not watch it. 

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4 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Star Wars has become a British sci fi franchise. Their ideas & styles of sci fi is different what is done here in the US & Canada when it comes to acting & writing. To me, they've strayed away from the vision George Lucas had for Star Wars. Twenty five yars ago, I could have debated this issue with other Star Wars fans here but today I barely know the names of the main characters anymore. I just know that I've watched every Star Wars movie & just can't get excited about it anymore. If a new motion picture comes out I'll probably not watch it. 

You mean Lucas didn't envision Luke Skywalker as being a weak pathetic cry baby when he originally created the character?   

 

6 hours ago, Brandon said:

You mean Lucas didn't envision Luke Skywalker as being a weak pathetic cry baby when he originally created the character?   

 

The writing was just so bad. I tried to watch some of the newer Star Wars & just can't get through it. The characters, the plot, the dialogue in comparison to thr first 3 movies in the series from 1977-81 compared to today. The killing of Hans Solo, Luke & Leia floating thru space. With all the different writers, producers, directors, actors, new characters, etc, the entire movie series was lost. 

50 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The writing was just so bad. I tried to watch some of the newer Star Wars & just can't get through it. The characters, the plot, the dialogue in comparison to thr first 3 movies in the series from 1977-81 compared to today. The killing of Hans Solo, Luke & Leia floating thru space. With all the different writers, producers, directors, actors, new characters, etc, the entire movie series was lost. 

I will say Rogue One was a very entertaining movie for me ,  that was the only one that I enjoyed. 

18 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Star Wars has become a British sci fi franchise. Their ideas & styles of sci fi is different what is done here in the US & Canada when it comes to acting & writing. To me, they've strayed away from the vision George Lucas had for Star Wars. Twenty five yars ago, I could have debated this issue with other Star Wars fans here but today I barely know the names of the main characters anymore. I just know that I've watched every Star Wars movie & just can't get excited about it anymore. If a new motion picture comes out I'll probably not watch it. 

 

6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The writing was just so bad. I tried to watch some of the newer Star Wars & just can't get through it. The characters, the plot, the dialogue in comparison to thr first 3 movies in the series from 1977-81 compared to today. The killing of Hans Solo, Luke & Leia floating thru space. With all the different writers, producers, directors, actors, new characters, etc, the entire movie series was lost. 

Star Wars has always had a huge British element to it (from the Empire being based on Imperial England, to many actors being British and much of the filming/production being done in England).  Lucas, at times, gets too much credit and not enough blame (IMO).  His writing has always been a bit clunky - his ex-wife cleaned up a lot of the dialogue in the original trilogy to make it work.  She did not work on the prequels and it showed. 

You also can't really say anything past 1981 strayed from his vision when then prequels (1999-2005) were 100% him and they were no where near as good as the original trilogy.  The original series had different directors/producers and such so that wasn't a huge change (those 3 films each had a different director, 2 different producers and 3 screenwriters) but Lucas was there to handle the overall story for the first 6 movies, which the last 3 did not. 

I think the last 3 films could have been better if there was some continuity off the screen in overseeing the story to make it consistent.  They started out good on that path by bringing Lawrence Kasdan (co-writer on Empire Strikes Back & Return of the Jedi) to co-write The Force Awakens so they fit well with the original trilogy.  Abrams was offered The Last Jedi but turned it down (because Disney's schedule had no time off between filming the projects & he needed a break) so they brought Rian Johnson in.  Johnson had no connection to the series and he had his own vision, so he went in a different direction with some things.  Abrams came back for Rise of Skywalker but now had to to tie his original story into what Johnson had done and it wasn't great as a result.  I think if Abrams had been able to do all 3, it would have been much better but we'll never know.

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On 2025-03-10 at 2:05 AM, SpeedFlex27 said:

The writing was just so bad. I tried to watch some of the newer Star Wars & just can't get through it. The characters, the plot, the dialogue in comparison to thr first 3 movies in the series from 1977-81 compared to today. The killing of Hans Solo, Luke & Leia floating thru space. With all the different writers, producers, directors, actors, new characters, etc, the entire movie series was lost. 

watch Rogue one and Andor. 

1 minute ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

watch Rogue one and Andor. 

I enjoyed Rogue One. The special effects were incredible.  But the allure of the Star War films is over. 

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Andor is back!  Watched the first three episodes last night.  Thought they were great.

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