Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

7 hours ago, bustamente said:

If I was American I would be terrified with the new found powers that Custom and Borders Agents have, imagine uniformed agents driving around in unmarked vehicles taking protesters into custody..............this happens in certain countries around the world but to happen in states shows you that the right to protest is not looked on to favorably buy the current federal government

Here is a quick glimpse on what is going on:

 

 

And more good news! They are taking the show NATIONALLY!!!!   /s

 

 

Wow. They truly are going mad down there in the States. They’re putting the F on a plan for more gov. control that looks remarkably like what a fascist state would do.

Is it too late to build a wall at the Canadian border?

Police Union Boss Won’t Talk About That QAnon Mug He Keeps Putting On TV

The FBI considers the far-right QAnon conspiracy movement to be a potential domestic terrorism threat. Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, appears Thursday on Fox News with a black "QAnon" coffee mug behind him.
The head of one of New York City’s largest police unions appeared on Fox News twice this week with a “QAnon” coffee mug but claims to have no knowledge of the extremist cult. 

Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, was invited on Fox News on Monday and Friday to discuss crime in New York City. During both appearances, Mullins could be seen speaking from the same office where, sitting on what looks like a printer or scanner behind him, is a black coffee mug bearing a giant red-white-and-blue “Q.” 

The mug is also inscribed with the word “QAnon,” as well as the letters “WWG1WGA,” an acronym for “Where We Go One, We Go All,” the signature slogan of QAnon, a far-right conspiracy movement.  

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/ed-mullins-qanon-mug-fox-news-police-union-boss_n_5f1228fbc5b6cec246c2920e?ri18n=true

 

What do we expect....when you actually have a President who nods and winks at racists and conspiracy theorists ......which both encourages and emboldens them.  At this point the rot is running pretty deep in the Republican party

...and outside of it

Edited July 18, 20205 yr by do or die

A chiiling thought has occurred to me: what if Trump and his sycophants have decided to let the current pandemic build into a nation-wide acute crisis so that they can "delay" the pending election indefinitely by declaring a national state of emergency. No doubt there is this sort of contingency built into US law and Barr would support this.

58 minutes ago, Tracker said:

A chiiling thought has occurred to me: what if Trump and his sycophants have decided to let the current pandemic build into a nation-wide acute crisis so that they can "delay" the pending election indefinitely by declaring a national state of emergency. No doubt there is this sort of contingency built into US law and Barr would support this.

I could be wrong but even a delay cause by an national emergency  doesn't keep him or the vp in their positions come the 20th of January.

 

Yep. He said it.

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

I could be wrong but even a delay cause by an national emergency  doesn't keep him or the vp in their positions come the 20th of January.

Barr has shown that he will implement actions based on a very flimsy interpretation of law or convention.

Ouch... this pretty cringe worthy...

 

 

19 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Ouch... this pretty cringe worthy...

 

 

Unbefuckinglievable.

Don't they have any competent people in the White House?

Those people all look the same to privileged white folk.

 

Kinda like blackmail. 
 

I guess he can’t handle both..

 

 

But, but will they be able to see him purse his lips or watch his fancy hand gestures? That’s what America really wants to know with all their hearts and Goya.

 

The Oregon Attorney General:

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Trump administration seeking to block funding for CDC, contact tracing and testing in new relief bill:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507971-trump-administration-seeking-to-block-funding-for-cdc-contact-tracing

I am curious about those freedom and liberty voters and libertarians who support trump and how they feel about this:

 

 

31 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

I am curious about those freedom and liberty voters and libertarians who support trump and how they feel about this:

 

 

(sounds of crickets)

The Washington Post updated its Trump’s liar count.

According to its fact-checking team, Trump’s rate of lying is shaped remarkably like the country’s rapid rise in COVID-19 cases.

It took him 827 days to reach his first 10,000 lies, says the Post, but just 440 days to reach his second 10,000 lies 
An example... Trump told his Michigan "tele-rally" tonight that he was named Michigan's Man of the Year 10 years ago, though he has very obviously never been named Michigan's Man of the Year. - Daniel Dale

Think of Trump's behaviours this way: his bullying, lying, racism and fascism has gotten him to be the head of an overvalued but large corporation, the presidency and trophy wives with few consequences for 60 years. Why would he change now?

Ladies and Gentlemen the POTUS, just so sad what the people of the United States elected.

 

 

Imagine that, Desantis falsifying figures! 

 

Here are 6 signs Trump may use DHS stormtroopers to stop Democrats from voting

Last night I wrote about Trump’s use of ICE and Border Patrol stormtroopers under the auspices of the Department of Homeland Security to detain and intimidate peaceful protesters. In that piece I speculated that Trump was not only testing the waters of creating his own personal paramilitary domestic security force and attempting to please the most sadistic elements of his base, but also that he was taking the natural actions an executive might take if he actually believed the dystopian propaganda about America’s cities being promulgated every day on Fox News.

But there is another deeply alarming possibility to consider. This November will be the first since the expiration of  a 1982 consent decree in which the Republican National Committee will be freed to conduct voter suppression and intimidation en masse.

As Andy Kroll recently explained at Rolling Stone:

The result of the suit was a 1982 consent decree between the Democratic and Republican parties. Even though the RNC refused to admit wrong-doing in New Jersey, the group agreed to stop harassing and intimidating voters of color, including by deputizing off-duty law-enforcement officers and equipping those officers with guns or badges. Over the next three decades, Democrats marshaled enough evidence of ongoing Republican voter suppression to maintain the consent decree until 2018, when a federal judge lifted the order.

The 2020 presidential election will be the first in nearly 40 years when the RNC isn’t bound by the terms of the 1982 decree. Clark, the Trump campaign lawyer, told the group of Republicans at the private meeting last November that the end of the consent decree was “a huge, huge, huge, huge deal,” freeing the RNC to directly coordinate with campaigns and political committees on so-called Election Day operations. The RNC is sending millions of dollars to state Republican parties to vastly expand these measures, which include recruiting 50,000 poll observers to deploy in key precincts.

So consider the following facts:

1) The Republican National Committee under Trump is set to deploy tens of thousands of likely armed, unbadged goons to try to intimidate voters of color from exercising their right of suffrage;

2) Both Border Patrol and ICE are functioning as largely unaccountable enforcers of the president’s personal whims and interpretations of law, detaining citizens for hours without explanation or formal charges, and operating in direct conflict with local mayors and governors;

3) Border Patrol and ICE both have stridently bigoted, conservative organizational cultures hostile to most people of color and more liberal, urban areas generally–and they are well aware that their powers will likely be curtailed under a possible future Democratic administration;

4) Trump continues to ramp up rhetoric against nonexistent “voter fraud” in liberal areas. His focus has primarily been on vote-by-mail as a result of the COVID pandemic, but imaginary in-person voter impersonation fraud among communities of color in Democratic-leaning cities has long been a Republican obsession. A senior legal adviser to the Trump campaign recently declared that Trump would win even California if voting were “fair,” showing just how deeply the conspiratorial thinking around this issue runs in top GOP circles.

5)  Acting Department of Homeland Security chief Chad Wolf appears to have no constraints on his behavior or his overheated rhetoric, and that the Trump Administration is planning to scale up the use of border patrol agents as a conservative paramilitary nationwide.

6) Donald Trump and his campaign team know by now that absent some explosive scandal around Biden or other unpredictable event to change the fundamentals of the race, the president’s only path to victory lies not in persuading a majority of voters but in choosing his own electorate by suppressing the votes of the majority of Americans who despise him.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/07/here-are-6-signs-trump-may-use-dhs-stormtroopers-to-stop-democrats-from-voting/