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Uh oh. The wheels are falling off. Jets playoff tickets will cost nothing this year.

Common sense don't exist in lots of people these days

We gotta win 10 of 14 probably to give us a legit shot. Maybe 8 at the least. I love the team and hope they make it but head tells me they are finished. Mentally they look beat.

Hutch made several big saves tonight. Jets got owned by a Team who isn't as good as they are. After the heart breaking loss to St Louis the team came out in the first and laid a big fat egg. Remember that pre all star break team who would play string d and win games 2-1 because of it? Me neither. They have gotten away from that and it's been since the all star break. The team is just not good enough. Injuries or not, this team loses at the worst times. You gotta wonder about the leadership from the vets. Did Ladd play tonight? Cuz he was invisible

This team isn't good enough as it is. Change is part of the game. 3 4 seasons probably now of not being good enough means it's time to move on from the older core and pass it off to the younger guys or you can pretend the team is just struggling cuz of injuries but really it's been 3 almost 4 seasons with no playoffs. Trade buff and Ladd while they still have value

No playoffs probably now. Too bad. Hutch was fine. No chance on all 3. Jets just haven't played the same since the all star break. Need to win 10 of 14 to get 98 points. Not happening.

Budaj sucks in St Johns this year. Terrible. He isn't in the jets plans

Odd statement. saying it's not about pav vs hutch but then saying hutch wasn't good enough. He wasn't but... Pav let in a goal that pee wee goalies stop every time. It's not about pav vs hutch tho right? Pav haters? Lol i don't think anyone hates pav, if they do, they need help for sure but... why do people always have to make it about one player? Like that entire second period was a disaster, the third? The jets got lucky and tied it up, false hope really cuz we didn't deserve a point that game. We got owned pretty much and got some lucky goals of our own, I just don't get why you'd say it's not about pav vs hutch but then proceed to say hutch wasn't nearly good enough. Well, guess what, hutch didn't get the loss, Pav did? why because he let in a floater from center. Listen, i'm not one to blame the goalies that often, the fact is there are 5 other guys on the ice but jesus man, that shot was from the frickin red line, that was a brutal goal and that cost them the game, whether you like it or not. Yeah i don't think they deserved the point but fact is, if Pav stopped that 1 floater, they more than likely get 1 point.

Wonder if they were the best qualified for the job in the tendering process, or simply the best they could get with union affiliation. Yeah, it makes you wonder.

It's not so much the design that is flawed, the design is fine. People need to get that out of their heads.. It's the work that was done that is flawed or even the work that wasn't done.. That's the builder not the architect. LOL, builders build to the specifications, somebody is naive for sure, builders build to get it done on time, they set an unrealistic timeframe for completion and tried to cut some corners, This happens when designing buildings quite often, from houses to skyscrapers to stadiums, it happens more than people think. The only design flaw, if you want to call it that is there is some puddling on the roof it seems but you know what.... that's not even a design flaw, that's a builder flaw again. It's so easy to point the finger at the architect here but all he did was design it, he didn't build the thing, he just designed it. These issues that were pointed out aren't exactly design flaws, they are quite simply cuz i have no other words to describe it, They are CRAPPY workmanship. Concrete concourse is the main thing it seems, that's not a design issue, that's a crappy job by the people who poured the concrete. Just a simple question, how do we know the builder followed the architects specifications? Maybe they didn't actually, maybe they decided to cut some corners and get it done when they said it was supposed to be done, that's the biggest issue here, the timeframe, looking at that list, those aren't really major issues outside of the concrete in the concourse, they are minor issues but theres enough of them to make them seem major. But really, not backfilling the stands? how is that an archtiect issue? That's a cut corners to get it done on time issue, the crap concrete? the architect didn't design the concrete, weather stripping? seriously lol, that's lazy workers really, the water on the roof, maybe they didn't build the "rafters" to the proper angle that the architect specified. This is all just a guessing game by people here, has anyone seen the blueprints for the stadium? I haven't, so without seeing them, who can honestly say that the builder followed the architects plans to a tee? Maybe the problem is they didn't and they got caught now.

If David Clarkson and that albatros contract could be moved, Pav could be too. Many teams would take a chance on him if they didn't have to give up much in return. I don't think we'd get much for him but... Off the top of my head, Carolina,Edmonton,Buffalo even would all probably have interest in Pav. It wouldn't take a ton to get him.

If helle is ready. Who cares how old he is. He might and I'd say quite likely he is better than hutch

I think it's more likely you might see Helle up here next season, The guy has been nothing short of phenomenal in St Johns, I like Hutch but Helle is the goalie of the future for us, there is no doubt about it. Who says you need to have a vet goalie on your roster? Look at Anaheim, for the most part they have gone with Anderson and Gibson, 2 youngsters. If Helle is ready, he might just be, then he comes up to the big club next season. Comrie will be AHL eligible so he takes over for Helle. You could also, thinking of teams who might take a flyer on PAV, Edmonton is one that comes to mind, Apparently the Jets and Oilers had talks this past off-season about a Pav trade, well, I know he's a UFA but you could trade Fasth to WPG for Pav and then sign Fasth to a one year deal and go with Hutch/Fasth. Or you just go with the 2 youngsters and Comrie does what Helle has done this year and becomes the starter in year 1 in St Johns/Manitoba/Wherever. I'm less and less convinced every game that passes that Pav will start another game for this team, I don't know, there is a back to back, Edmonton/Vancouver game coming up, I'll say this, if PAV doesn't start one of those games, he won't start another all year unless Hutch gets hurt.

Pav probably will be moved this off season. Writing on the wall for him.

Trade Pav in the off season for a late pick and be done with it. However the guy made several huge saves last night. He did let in one brutal goal but he made several pretty great saves. It would have been nice to get to OT but... Jets weren't good as a team for 2 periods

Went to a Columbus game this year. 55 bucks a ticket in the upper deck

Lol. Bandwagon fans

Pav 19 of 20 HUTCH 3 of 7

I'd pay it if i could get tickets. Don't care the price really.

Last thing i'll say is I'm pretty sure Buff and Ladd for that matter can talk contract extensions with Chevy after or on July 1st of this year, So you throw out some term and numbers, not gonna play that game again where i think i know what Chevy would offer but... Let's say he offers them both very reasonable deals, very reasonable, and they both say.. thanks but no thanks? I mean that's possible right, its also possible that they sign those reasonable deals but.. If they don't, what do you do? You obviously try to move them in the summer of this year then so you can get back more than you would if you sold them at the trade deadline.. These guys both have a year left on their deals, the best time to trade them if they decided to not sign an extension this summer is well this summer. That's when i think you'd get the best bang for your buck. I'm not really sure i like the idea of keeping them until next years trade deadline and then trading them cuz they would essentially be rentals, I'm not sure that's where you get the best value for your players. But honestly from everything i've heard and read, both love it here, both are happy here, buff apparently enjoys it quite lots, it's close to home, it's similar to Minnesota actually when you think about it, not much difference between us and where buff is from, same winters really, same stuff, they have a bigger mall but for some reason, i don't think that's a huge issue for most players and their wives for that matter. The indications are both enjoy it here and would probably sign, but if they say thanks but no thanks this off season to signing an extension, i think you have to move them this summer.

Well, it honestly speaks volumes in my opinion at least that the bombers had no interest in Shomari. I mean, Our DC would be very very familiar with him.

it's gonna be a good game, hard hitting fast paced defensively strong game. I like when the Jets play the Blues actually, it could go either way. I think the Jets manage to get a point for sure. Not sure about 2 tho.

Little is still young enough and Wheeler is a great leader so i think he was referring to guys like Buff Ladd Maybe Enstrom but the depth at the LHD position is pretty thin.

If buff was 25 sure but he's going to be 30. Tough decision

The luxury of having 3 very good RHD actually. Myers/Trouba/Buff. Can let Buff go and still have a solid top 4 if Morrissey is ready to go. Myers/Toby Trouba/Morrissey That's a good group going forward and fits in to what the Jets are trying to do 9 million? No thanks, I don't think i'd go anymore than 6.5 a year for 5 years max. 6.5 6.5 6.5 6.5 6.5 = 32.5 million over 5 years. Gotta remember that guys like Schief,Trouba,Lowry etc will need new deals too.