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Well, if he has the same performance has last game, quite possibly. I really wish Sunseri was pulled in the last game to try out the other QBs when we knew the game was over. Now we have no clue if the others are any better than Tino. You'd just be putting Doege in a position to fail throwing him into a game when he had limited reps in practice. You wouldn't get any kind of read on how good or bad the guy actually is. If they plan on potentially using him because of Sunseri's lack of production, they need to get him more reps in practice this week, but it's a catch-22 cause Sunseri obviously needs the work too if he's going to play. Welcome to not having a starting QB. Yeah. You gotta live or probably die with Sunseri for this week. Pulling him would have no positive effect on Sunseri, Doege, or the Riders. If the decision to change them up comes it should wait until after the Ottawa game and give Doege a full week of starter reps.

Yeah....never want to see a guy lose his dream because of injury. It's a crappy way to go out.

Why do you say that? Doege's been there all year. Look at Toronto last year as an example. Collaros leap frogged the second string Harris despite having less time with the offence. If Tino looks as bad as he did against the TiCats why wouldn't they throw Doege in there? They've both been taking first team snaps. Oh, I don't know …just a feeling…. Posted 09 September 2014 - 01:12 PM mfranc, on 09 Sept 2014 - 11:10 AM, said: Actually most are okay with Sunseri. There is no replacing Durant but the Riders are a veteran team with a tonne of talent. Tino doesn't have to force anything. Yes, but that's because you're in the 'rippling beneath the surface phase'. Wait…just wait. Yeah. He hasn't experienced the heartbreak of dashed hopes on the rocks of a backup QB in quite some time. The awful, nauseous feeling should start setting in a few weeks from now when reality takes hold.

No idea, but Rider fans who come onto Bomber forums acting like clowns shouldn't go throwing stones at Bomber fans who post on the Rider home forum. We all read what you have to say over at Riderfans about the Bombers. Don't come looking for sympathy and crying crocodile tears over here if a Bomber fan makes you look bad on your home forum. You come here all trying to give the impression that you're a nice guy but everything you say to Bomber fans and about the Bombers on your home forum is real douchebaggery. Own it. Perhaps what we write on our home forum isn't meant for your eyes. Then don't write it in a public forum or ask your mods to create a sign in if you want to view the forum. Something I am sure will be met with a hardy laugh. Because contrary to your above statement the mods at Riderfans very much welcome everyone who wishes to view their forum (not yours btw)...you are a guest there as well.

Well, if he has the same performance has last game, quite possibly. I really wish Sunseri was pulled in the last game to try out the other QBs when we knew the game was over. Now we have no clue if the others are any better than Tino. They're not because they have less experience and the coaches don't just blindly assign guys to #2 and #3 positions. Sunseri is the back up because they've determined he is the 2nd best guy on the roster so what that means, is that if they start yanking him to put another guy in you've entered full on desperation mode. No team has some hidden gem at 3rd or 4th string that is going to come out of nowhere to wow people. You're too young to remember but when Ricky Ray came out of nowhere, he was the talk of the CFL based on preseason and was #2 coming out of camp and when he got in in place of Jason Maas he was instantly a smash hit. None of the Rider qbs showed anything like that, don't expect them to come in and suddenly be better. There is a reason that quarterback is the hardest position for teams to find a player at. It takes a very special situation for it to work. Most people felt the Riders did have a good situation for a player to succeed in because they have a good D and a good OL, but as we saw with Sunseri young players can often get hesitant if things start to go badly or the other defense makes them uncomfortable and things can quickly spiral out of control. Trust me on this one, again you're too young to remember the Riders having to do this but when you keep throwing qb after qb in looking for the instant fix you wind up ruining any potential your qbs might have. Agreed. I think many Rider fans have completely unrealistic ideas about how easy it is to develop a quality starting QB. Sunseri has about as good a situation as any backup could have hoped for and he looked absolutely lost out there. That kind of a performance does not get rectified in the span of a week. Sunseri is simply not ready.

Doege would not likely create any improvement. The Riders decided to go green at the backup position and save a few bucks banking on Durant's history of being relatively injury free. It will now cost them for the remainder of the season as they struggle with QBs that are not ready for prime time. If this offends some Rider fans...too bad....it wasn't meant for your eyes anyway.

It's WPG vs B.C. for 4th. Such is life we finish 5th and out of the playoffs BUT we would be in 1st place in the East and THEN we'll see where those separate division lovers are. I really like BC's chances at 3rd right now. They have the season series over the RIders and the Riders are in big trouble offensively right now. I would say that the battle for 4th will be between us and Regina.

That's awful. Probably just ended his NFL career.

So is every thread now turning into a Winnipeg vs. Regina pissing match? It's better than a gbill vs Mike pissing match every thread. Just saying....

Yeah...I hate Saskatchewan more then anyone else here, but I know mfranc isn't even close to being a troll on this board. The trolls that frequent this board are mostly Bomber fans unfortunately. Not so far, but go and read what he has to say about the Bombers and Bomber fans at the Rider forum. Once you've read that, it is hard to respect him over here. I get that he should be judged by what he posts here but when you use the same name here as you do there, it will lead to ALL your words being judged and what he says over there would have him perma-banned over here. Might not be fair...but it is what it is.

I think that since the CFL became the only league outside the NFL that we are seeing much bigger, stronger, and faster DL talent. Also, the NFL seems to hold onto OL like gold so it has not translated into a bonanza of OL talent in the same way. Also, they are beginning to take a lot of our top NI OL prospects and it is weakening the pool of talent at OL league wide.

I expect that Brohm should be much better after receiving most of the first team reps. Will it be good enough? Who knows. The rest of the team has to really step up.

I don't think he looked poor at all against Winnipeg, he did what a backup is supposed to do. Manage & win the game.And like I said already, if he plays again like he did yesterday they put in Doege who's also taking 1st team reps in practice. I think Cortez's record speaks for itself, he knows what he's got. He looked poor against Winnipeg. He barely managed to hang onto what should have been a pretty safe lead. You truly are viewing him through green goggles. He came close to costing you guys the game.So barely managing to hang onto a game is worse than losing games for your team in the 4th quarter?Sample size on Tino is too small, he needs to improve big time this weekend no question. The difference between Willy and TIno is that Willy gives us a chance to win. With Sunseri, it is just about limiting the damage he can do. Willy threw some late game ints that cost us wins. He also made some excellent plays that put us in position to have a chance to win. Your game was lost the minute Sunseri was the starter. If we knock out Durant a few minutes earlier we win that game too. In short, one QB provides his team with a chance to win. The other is simply holding the fort down in hopes other aspects of the team can get it done.

Hey sucka! Always lovely to see the gutless trolls show up and try to cause a ruckus.Sunseri? He's got to get rid of the frickin ball. Standing around like a statue made the O-line look worse then it was. The TiCat interior defensive line is a beautiful thing (and Nationals too). Offence and special teams were weak sauce. Defence? They had good coverage but Collaros was squeezing the ball into tight coverage all day with a quick release and good scrambling. This is the Collaros the TiCats wanted to see. It's going to be tough without DD but there was plenty of blame to go around. Peace and enjoy the bye week. It'll give you guys a chance to heal up. Also, note that I wasn't on here acting like a jack ass after the Lion/Bomber game. PS Bombers suck Yes, speaking of gutless trolls, I didn't think you would "bless" us with your presence so soon after that debacle yesterday. I guess as far as trolls go you're not compeletely gutless anyway. As for not coming on here acting like a jackass after the LIons game, I wouldn't pat myself on the back for that. Chances are you knew you would be put in your place if you did. An act of cowardice is not an act of kindness. Come on over though and keep beaking, you won't find the mods protecting you over here.

No idea, but Rider fans who come onto Bomber forums acting like clowns shouldn't go throwing stones at Bomber fans who post on the Rider home forum. We all read what you have to say over at Riderfans about the Bombers. Don't come looking for sympathy and crying crocodile tears over here if a Bomber fan makes you look bad on your home forum. You come here all trying to give the impression that you're a nice guy but everything you say to Bomber fans and about the Bombers on your home forum is real douchebaggery. Own it.

I don't think he looked poor at all against Winnipeg, he did what a backup is supposed to do. Manage & win the game. And like I said already, if he plays again like he did yesterday they put in Doege who's also taking 1st team reps in practice. I think Cortez's record speaks for itself, he knows what he's got. He looked poor against Winnipeg. He barely managed to hang onto what should have been a pretty safe lead. You truly are viewing him through green goggles. He came close to costing you guys the game. That wasn't managing and winning a game, you guys were in full hanging on by the fingernails and hopefully the clock will rescue us mode.

I don't think he looked poor at all against Winnipeg, he did what a backup is supposed to do. Manage & win the game. And like I said already, if he plays again like he did yesterday they put in Doege who's also taking 1st team reps in practice. I think Cortez's record speaks for itself, he knows what he's got. He looked poor against Winnipeg. He barely managed to hang onto what should have been a pretty safe lead. You truly are viewing him through green goggles. He came close to costing you guys the game.

The Riders aren't doomed because Durant went down, they are doomed because Sunseri is taking his place. That guy sucks badly. The last young QB I saw struggle so badly with every aspect of the position was Lefors. It would be different if he was getting the little things right but he couldn't even execute a simple drop back. The kid is garbage. Not sure what you saw that got you hopeful yesterday but the rest of the football world saw a fish out of water.

Thanks for the input doc. Glad you know so much about his injury to make that prognosis based on zero information. Trolling again, I see. At any rate, Willy gives us a chance to win. The Riders chances went up in smoke the day Durant's season/career was ended. Hope you find some humility when your team doesn't win another game this year.

Brohm heading home? After the injury to Willy & the way he played? That tells me all I need to know. To be a starting qb in the CFL takes sacrifce. And if a player isn't willing to do that, well?? I know it's tough to be away from family but the season ends in less than 2 months & Brohm has 6 months to be with them then. I think that is the wrong decision. Don't forget the players made plans three weeks back for this bye week and most likely paid for tickets etc. I doubt it's last night that he decided to go home. Good comment made by Doug Brown after the game. He said that if Dave Rictchie was the coach of this team, bye-week would be officially cancelled with Willy's injury. The team has two weeks to prepare for their next game and they will need every practice opportunity possible to get Brohm up to speed asap. Blowing off a week of preparation time on player's vacations is a missed opportunity for Brohm and the offence to get on the same page. Two on-field practices in the week before Hamilton is just not enough to get Brohm in sync. I agree whole heartedly with DB's analysis. Unfortunately for us, it is that kind of mentality over the years that led players to leave or not sign with the Bombers. They are taking the right approach.in giving the guys the bye week to go home and recharge and rejuvenate. All keeping them here would do is piss them off.

The Riders offence was a discombobulated mess today. They may not win another game this year if this keeps up. Full panic mode over at Riderfans right now. MFranc is just a frantic mess beaking off some Bomber fan over there. Too funny. Make sure to give him the rough ride if he has the guts to show up here...he had some harsh words about the Bombers over there.

Kind of like a small Winnipeg without all the potted plant crappers eh? Haha we have an nhl teamJust what we need, a less then adequate NHL team. What's next, are you going to wish the Leafs on us?We are also a short drive from cottage country. We are close enough to vist mlb or nfl on a weekend and I'm pretty sure the building I live in is taller than anything in regina's 'downtown'After visiting regina for the last 3 years I'm shocked anyone can live there. It's painfully obvious the riders are the only thing to do there. You do realize that the Riders draw from more then Regina? It's a little known fact that everyone growing up in Saskatchewan longs to live in the sophisticated urban paradise that is Winnipeg. ( where is the sarcasm smiley) Anyway, I am sure you are quite happy there so good for you. Not many who grew up in Saskatchewan would know what they are missing out on. That's OK. Nothing wrong with being blissfully ignorant unless, of course, you try to suggest that Saskatchewan has more to offer than anywhere else because that is just patently stupid.

Exactly. We pursued them as they became available. Were we interested in all 3 ot them. Undoubtedly. If we had managed to land Collaros or Burris would we have lost out on Willy. Not necessarily. Rumors around the time of these pursuits were that we wanted one of Collaros and Burris AND Willy.

Andrew Harris is a very good RB but BC doesn't have the OL capable of imposing it's will on anyone.

I think the roughly 80 million or so dollars that the Bombers are paying into the stadium buys them a secret practice a week. Yes, taxpayer money also went into the stadium but if my recollection is correct the majority of that stadium is being paid for by the Bombers. The province was just "the bank" for most of the money. If my bank told me I need to inform their board of directors everytime I took a crap in my bathroom because they hold the mortgage I would think they were insane. Yet, that seems to be the point that Wiecek was trying to be incensed about. That's a new kind of crazy. "You can't use the stadium you are paying 4-5 million dollars a year for without telling anyone." I wonder if Wiecek realizes how unbelievably stupid that sounds.