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Hopefully Bombers are just feigning interest in KG, so Brohm gets the message and re-signs with us, pronto.

Meh, I'd say moving from Foley and Kilgore (or whoever they had at MLB) to Emry and Hall is a big upgrade. Other than that, they've retained depth similar to what we've brought in because we didn't have it in the first place. Let's see how things keep unfolding, though. The biggest changes the riders had to make IMO were on the coaching staff and scouting dept. Those are the changes that the fans are excited about. The riders have a pretty good team already, there weren't a lot of moves that had to be made.I agree. Gonna be a dog fight in the west this year. I like the moves you guys have made. Outside of Bryant, none of them are earth shattering. BUT, Walters has a plan it appears and he is slowly putting the pieces together. The Bombers are going to be very much in the hunt this year. You already had a qb, rb and kicker from last year which was a good start. Are making moves to shore up the oline, which i'm sorry to say guys was really rough last year. Willy with more time means more points on the board which means more wins for you. You guys need to make some moves on the defensive side of the ball now. Hickman? I'm happy for you guys, its exciting when the team starts making moves, IN A GOOD WAY. Better coaching and new approach will help the defence, and it was obvious the Oline had trouble protecting Drew Willy. But he doesn't need more time to look and read. Willy needs to get rid of the ball quicker.

Ditto. Hope he gets a chance there. If he does, could surprise a lot of people.

Wally does't want KG cuz in a clutch situation he's always a heartbreaker and at age 35 on a downhill spiral. One of the worst, if not the worst QB efficiency rating in the league. Why would Winnipeg take the downside risk? Surely we need to be developing our younger talent. I'd be seriously questioning O'Shea's sanity - it would be like Romby, only worse

Great news!

No thank-you to KG. Just no. If we can't re-sign Brohm then I'd rather have a raw rook than Glenn.

Saw that too. Now fixed. Quite revealing!

QB Kevin Glenn - MTL Brian Brohm - NFL? Dan LeFevour - OTT RB Kendial Lawrence - HAM Nic Grigsby - SASK REC Greg Ellingson - OTT Spencer Watt - MTL Ernest Jackson - WPG Wallace Miles - SASK Brad Sinopoli - OTT Sam Giguere - MTL Bakari Grant - EDM Nik Lewis - UNS OL Stanley Bryant - WPG SirVincent Rogers - CGY Edwin Harrison - CGY Dan Clark - OTT Greg Wojt - BC DL Moton Hopkins - SASK Justin Hickman - OTT Brandon Boudreaux - MTL LB Desia Dunn - TOR Sam Hurl - BC Keenan MacDougall - CGY Rennie Curran - WPG Johnny Sears - OTT Brian Peters - MTL DB Geoff Tisdale - MTL Tristan Jackson - SASK P Josh Bartel - OTT

Walters reportedly has been trying to get Brian Brohm re-signed and I can see why. Brohm knows our system and played well in limited action last year. He probably should have had more reps, especially after Drew Willy got happy feet in the 2nd half of the season. I felt Brohm had command of the huddle, the system, and the clock and that he moved the ball with authority. He spent less time going through both pre-snap and post-snap reads than Drew Willy and got the ball away faster. If he doesn't get a last shot in the NFL, I feel certain he will land in the CFL somewhere and given half a chance will do very very well. So I don't think a trade was in the books, since Bombers actually want(ed) him back.

What do you consider notable? I read a recent article that said the Bombers neg list is heavy on american offensive tackles. I guess by 'notable' I mean a player who was at one time a highly-touted NFL prospect, or maybe had some time in The League, but who might end up in CFL for a variety of reasons. You know, it was reported the Als had Tim Tebow on their neg list at one point last year or before, and Chad Johnson obviously was on their list, since he was eventually signed. It seems possible, probable, that the Bombers might have a recognizable name or two on their neg list. But whether they could actually land such a player, or would want to, is another matter. So that is my question: who is the player in the Watson deal .... and beyond that who is on Bombers neg list that might be worth discussing.

Anyone else think maybe Brett Jones is going to Sask? And that's one of the reasons Picard was expendable?

Apparently CFL teams asked NFL clubs to offer contracts by the final week of FA so teams and players have some clarity. Does this mean Sears has no NFL prospects and therefore is likely to re-sign? And that Brett Jones is actually going to be CFL available?

Does anyone know who the neg list player is, that Bombers got as part of this trade? And is there anyone notable on our neg list, that Bombers are actually likely to land?

The FA list is shrinking. So as of now (Feb 3) only Argos WR Spencer Watt and and Ham OG Greg Wojt from Atomic's original list are still heading toward FA status. Heenan has been released to test NFL and Holmes and Donny O are re-signed-extended. If I am Walters & Co. I would not pursue Wojt as the need is for an OT and he is an OG. I could choose between Spencer Watt and Brad Sinopoli - all things being equal - I would try to sign Sinopoli as 4th QB. But he will likely end up in Ottawa. What about Jarome Messam? He surprised me for a few games both with Esks and Riders. He can be effective as a blocker and power back on 1st and Goal. If we acquired Messam, I'd look at moving Volny from RB to SB. Oh and for non-Canadian FA's my top target would be Stanley Bryant.

Ditto

Agreed. O'Shea isn't an expert on QBs, so he will delegate that responsibility. The way the coaches allowed Drew Willy to get beaten-up last year to the point where the QB lost confidence is worrisome though. Ultimately that is on O'Shea, even if Dalhquist was QB coach. Also, I'm sure the club would like to have Brohm back and his pending departure will be a loss. Nothing O'Shea can do about that though.

I voted for Richie Hall.

If Dahlquist isn't returning, and if we are sticking with a pocket passer like Drew Willy, then how about Dieter Brock as QB coach? He's hinted he'd take a gig with Winnipeg. IMHO Bombers should move Buck Pierce into the PR dept. Reading defences in a hurry was never his forte.

Indeed O'Shea's comments during the Etcheverry departure news conf suggest Drew Willy will be on a short leash.Huh? I assume you're joking.Me too.. I have a very hard time believing that we are even remotely considering moving on from Willy or short leashing the guy..And the fact that I watched the entire press conference and O'Shea didn't allude to Willy being on a short leash at all. What O'Shea said between 5 mins 30 and 6 mins 20 in that news conf is hardly a ringing endorsement of Bellefueille or Drew Willy. I just re-watched that part and I don't see how that could be interpteted as Willy being on a short leash. "I think the biggest issue is trying to find a defensive coordinator and how that affects the other staff members" "We started something with Drew Willy" "To be fair to Drew, if you keep changing coordinators on a quarterback, you can set him back" "We found a good young quarterback" "It's my preference to keep going" Seems pretty clear to me. Drew is obviously in the doghouse. You missed the part at 6 mins 3 secs where O'Shea quickly transitions away from endorsing just Drew Willy and reminds everyone that the Bombers have a stable of 4 good young QBs - as he puts it. And if you think about what he says regarding the OC position, he's actually saying if we had more experienced QBs then someone other than MB would be a viable option as OC. He's saying that it's not that MB is a great OC, just that bringing in a new system out would set back the development of the QBs. Obviously management talked about the option of a new OC. And what part of any of that is an indictment of Drew Willy? You need to look more carefully at what I said. Earlier in this thread I talked about Bellefueille and Willy, both. And what I said specifically about the QB is that I read from OShea's comments that DW is on a short leash. He's still #1 but Oshea isn't sticking his neck out like he did when Willy was first signed. If he doesn't quickly and consistently perform, I take from OShea's comments that there's good young stable of replacements. To me that spells short leash.

Indeed O'Shea's comments during the Etcheverry departure news conf suggest Drew Willy will be on a short leash.Huh? I assume you're joking.Me too.. I have a very hard time believing that we are even remotely considering moving on from Willy or short leashing the guy..And the fact that I watched the entire press conference and O'Shea didn't allude to Willy being on a short leash at all. What O'Shea said between 5 mins 30 and 6 mins 20 in that news conf is hardly a ringing endorsement of Bellefueille or Drew Willy. I just re-watched that part and I don't see how that could be interpteted as Willy being on a short leash. "I think the biggest issue is trying to find a defensive coordinator and how that affects the other staff members" "We started something with Drew Willy" "To be fair to Drew, if you keep changing coordinators on a quarterback, you can set him back" "We found a good young quarterback" "It's my preference to keep going" Seems pretty clear to me. Drew is obviously in the doghouse. You missed the part at 6 mins 3 secs where O'Shea quickly transitions away from endorsing just Drew Willy and reminds everyone that the Bombers have a stable of 4 good young QBs - as he puts it. And if you think about what he says regarding the OC position, he's actually saying if we had more experienced QBs then someone other than MB would be a viable option as OC. He's saying that it's not that MB is a great OC, just that bringing in a new system out would set back the development of the QBs. Obviously management talked about the option of a new OC.

Indeed O'Shea's comments during the Etcheverry departure news conf suggest Drew Willy will be on a short leash.Huh? I assume you're joking.Me too.. I have a very hard time believing that we are even remotely considering moving on from Willy or short leashing the guy.. And the fact that I watched the entire press conference and O'Shea didn't allude to Willy being on a short leash at all. What O'Shea said between 5 mins 30 and 6 mins 20 in that news conf is hardly a ringing endorsement of Bellefueille or Drew Willy.

Indeed O'Shea's comments during the Etcheverry departure news conf suggest Drew Willy will be on a short leash.

I hope so. But he'll get sniffs from BC and Regina. I like the quickness and decisiveness with which he runs the offence. Some of the other QBs could learn from him in that regard. If Brohm saw more 1st team reps, he'd surprise a lot of people. Hopefully he's back here and gets a chance to do that.

Your right, Goalie, stats don't tell the whole story. For example, due to scores off fumbles and picks, Winnipeg's defence contributed to our 397 total points scored. The most telling stat IMHO is TD percentage, and that stat is calculated by dividing the number of touchdowns by the number of times the team was in the red zone. By that measurement Bombers were dead last in the league at 2.6% - a very inefficient offence that repeatedly failed to capitalize on the many chances it was given. You're right... the bombers were to only team to get scoring from defense and special teams this year... Also, I haven't looked up this stat... but 2.6% seems far too low... Where are you getting the redzone and TD numbers from? OK, looking more closely Ottawa was last in terms of TD percentage and we were next to the bottom. Link: http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/football/cfl/stats/teams/?sort=Yrd

Your right, Goalie, stats don't tell the whole story. For example, due to scores off fumbles and picks, Winnipeg's defence contributed to our 397 total points scored. The most telling stat IMHO is TD percentage, and that stat is calculated by dividing the number of touchdowns by the number of times the team was in the red zone. By that measurement Bombers were dead last in the league at 2.6% - a very inefficient offence that repeatedly failed to capitalize on the many chances it was given.