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This is more than 3 games though, PIerce sucked last season as well regardless of the injuries, but for some reason you people are all ignoring it. The guy is simply not a good quarterback at this stage anymore and that's based on the way his career has gone since he arrived here.

Burke addressed it in his comments, they ran on first down a lot and got stuffed then went 2 and out. Bottom line in the CFL your running game will sometimes be stopped on first down, that's why no team that is run focussed ever wins anything in this league. You need to be able to pass your way out of trouble in the CFL to really get the running game working and vice versa. Right now the bombers passing attack is so impotent you won't see the run game being a big factor. Gotta be able to convert on some 2nd and longs in the CFL.

Just curious, but is all this labbe hate because on one play he over ran the angle on Burris? Cause you know what, Labbe was hardly only on the night having burris change direction enough to make the tackler miss him. Every linemen and most of the linebackers probably had it happen to them at least once. I think some people are just too comfortable with Labbe as a scapegoat.

So when the offense lines up and PIerce takes a look at the defense across from him should be not be making that adjustment? We see him making calls on the line all the time to change things, if there's no plays to counter a blitz then shouldn't we put some of, or most of the blame on the qb for A) not reading the defense and not making the play to counter it?

CFL rosters are small, you get multiple injuries to one position in a game you're going to have people playing there who aren't suited to be starters, just the way of it. Every team everywhere can deal better with injuries between games than in games.

Hopefully we see Pierce come into the game at receiver. That guy always seems to catch the ball when it comes to him which is a much needed skill right now

Why not put Goltz in to do his run it around the edge play when we're stuck in the midst of 5 or 6 2 and outs in a row? At least get a first down and let the punter punt from somewhere other than the shadow of his own goalposts.

The problem with Bucks stats for his career is that he's not in his mid 20s anymore. His game started to fall apart last season and it hasn't rebounded this year. We used to worry about Pierce getting hurt because he was good when healthy, now he's not even average when healthy and we're still terrified of him getting hurt.

the biggest problem for pierce with his WRs is that he is not accurate with them down the sidelines at all or if it's just an out he tosses up a lot of freebies for the dbs to break on, he nearly had one picked last game throwing to the sidelines. He is much better at going deep to the SBs, Edwards in particular. Honestly I just think Pierce and Matthews just don't have any chemistry at all. Matthews did a lot of his best stuff with Brink or Elliott in the game last season. With Pierce it was usually Edwards who was seeing more balls.

I see the same things as you though I'd maybe change the shows up for one quarter thing to shows up for about 2 great drives a game. Cause there's times in every game where Piece has looked damn good hitting receivers and marching the ball down the field.... the trouble is that he can't sustain that for more than 2 or 3 drives a game.

Yeah that'll be where I saw him playing more of a LB type spot. Would really love to know more from the tv guys, they never even mentioned Parker being out at all which is par for the course for them. Can't stray from the script of jerking off one player or group on one team to do trivial things like update who's out of the game and who isn't.

oh come on, duane forde drew up what happened on that play quite clearly. Johnson was playing outside position expecting inside help, the inside man bit down deep and johnson was caught outside and the ball thrown inside. Don't blame Johnson on that when when it was the inside guy who blew his assignment.

Am I crazy or was Davis playing a bit like a linebacker at times in the hamilton game anyway? Is it possible he goes in the middle and Muamba to Parkers spot? Or do they just see if Wild can run with the job? Either way it really sucks to lose a guy who was playing so well.

Seems like the only people avoiding the PIerce issue are the ones who can actually do something about it.

It's not like he came out and said those guys sucked adn that's why the offense sucked, he just mentioned a few different things that were wrong including himself. I think the biggest issue people take is that he didn't come out and say "Well I sucked the big one, that's all on my shitty play"

which totally ignores the entirety of Pierces career, good job, how's all that sand look that you've got your head buried in? Pierce has never ever ever been a consistent pocket passer. He was always a heart and soul scrapped who when he felt pressure could run very effectively and make a defense pay with his legs but he was never going to stand there like Ray or Calvillo and pick a D apart with his arm. That he is failing to turn into that guy in Winnipeg is no surprise, he's still the same guy he was minus his one truly great attribute... his mobility. If you took away Burris ability to run do you think he'd still be a good qb?

yeah if the coaches refuse to pull the guy then we're left hoping for something to force their hand and that's a damned shame.

when he was the consensus runner up for rookie of the year in 2011.... He had a down year last year now we see if he bounces back this year, though moving outside won't get him as many passes from Pierce who only seems able to pass to the sbs with any regularity.

Ford was in there for plays, he was the pitch option on Goltz TD run for one, and he returns kicks for the team as well so in a sense he is kind of a kick returner as a DI. The reason there is no dedicated DI kick returner on the team is cause none of those guys actually earned a job in preseason and you're not going to throw a guy on after 1 week of practise.

turning Pierce into a pocket passer is obviously a mistake... but he can't run anymore either so it's the only choice they have. The mistake here was all about sticking with Pierce when it was plain as day last season he was finished as an effective starter in the CFL.

Hamilton D Sheets their pants, seems the safest bet.

it's the kind of analysis people who see the game but don't really understand that there's more to avoiding sacks than just what the o-line is doing make.

but that's because teams know that he's not going to actually run with the ball.

and most times as soon as pierce felt the pressure he just turtled. The guy has turned himself into a sitting duck in the pocket, any blitz no matter telegraphed is getting to him and it's absolutely killing the offense and the team. Usually it's the rookie qbs who when you blitz them they can't handle it. Pierce is a god damned veteran and he can't even handle a blitz.

Burke from day one as head coach was pumping Goltz tires. He cut Elliott and Brink because he had that much belief in Goltz. I refuse to believe that Burke doesn't think Goltz can play just based on how much he did to make him climb the depth chart.