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we gave up more than just a 2nd round pick. We also gave up a player who was one of the best at his positions who helped the Riders win the Grey Cup. People need to stop pretending that Hall had 0 value and shouldn't be counted as part of the trade. We gave up a star player AND a 2nd round pick to get an injury prone OL. That trade stank from day 1. Could have used those assets to get something more worthwhile. I look at the trade as: Neufeld for 2nd rounder 4th rounder for Hall that's a pretty silly way to look at it. it was Neufeld and a 4th for Hall and a 2nd. We gave up the better player and the better draft pick in the trade. Now sure the contract lengths come into play and maybe shift the value to Neufeld over Hall, but the fact that he's injury prone sure doesn't help. Some people just get such raging hard ons over trades they have to tell themselves it was a good trade no matter what. Walters has been pretty iffy in trades. He over pays to get what he wants and that can damage you long term if it becomes a trend.

Joseph is 41. There's more to it than just that nobody wanted him. yeah the more is that no one wanted him cause he's not good enough to play in the CFL anymore. Except desperate Taman desperately trying to save face after botching the backup qb situation so spectacularly in he offseason. Your backup is Brohm. That's any better? Better than what we had last year

we gave up more than just a 2nd round pick. We also gave up a player who was one of the best at his positions who helped the Riders win the Grey Cup. People need to stop pretending that Hall had 0 value and shouldn't be counted as part of the trade. We gave up a star player AND a 2nd round pick to get an injury prone OL. That trade stank from day 1. Could have used those assets to get something more worthwhile.

You can use your assets better than getting injury prone players. If you're gambling then just take draft picks.

or do some research on guys, I think JBR was saying Neufeld was an injury concern when the trade happened, if a poster here can see it why can't the GM?

are you deluded enough to actually believe that? Cause no one else does. You're a rider homer plain and simple and your entire mission is to pump the riders tires everywhere you can. Actions tell the story and yours are clear. You may be a CFL fan... but you're a Rider fan first and foremost and you very obviously are a bigger Rider fan than CFL fan.

No Nic, you made yourself look like a quitter. If you didn't want people to call your a quitter you shouldn't have quit on those team mates you loved so much.

but you know what, you can miss a pass on a short throw too. Gotta execute the plays no matter what the call is.

Durant's balls hitting your chin with more force this week? That's good to hear. Tell us more. We really appreciate everything you do around here. Keep bringing the homophobic jokes. I'm here to talk football, thanks for showing us why you're here. No you're not, you're here to publicly jerk off the entire Riders organization. There is a big difference.

Etch has turned in a better performance as a coordinator this season than Bellefeuille has... Disagree. Defense has shown some glimmers but I would give the athleticism of the guys playing the credit. Etch's inability to stop the run, game after game after game, shows how stubborn and clueless he is. Bellefool has some pretty lame receivers to work with, not much in terms of running back, and the worst o-line in the league. Granted, saying Bellfool is better than Etch is like giving the award for the worlds tallest midget but whatever. Difficulty with your argument: Etch runs a D that is predicated on the athleticism of his players... The lack of focus on the run is intentional, the belief is you don't lose games because of running teams, and I think that's a pretty fair gamble over all. Too much focus on what they've done vs. the run is silly. They have kept the team in most games and made teams kick a lot of field goals as opposed to touchdowns. Yeah there have been a few poor games by the D, but overall they've given the team chances to win more often than not which is all you can ask given some of the issues that crept up with the team make up this year (notably underwhelming defensive line play for much of the year in particular Anderson getting hurt and Vega having a brutal season) Bellefeuille hasn't adjusted the O much to keep things working smoothly, regardless of lack of talent it's become predictable and easier to defend. Fair enough, but in your post (in bold) you kind of wrote the book on why Etch sucks -- he shows up and suddenly players are underwhelming or have brutal seasons. His schemes (or maybe his coaching/approach) consistently cause players to have their absolute worst seasons of their career. To me, that is the epitome of a bad coach. I'd tie the can to Bellfool too -- make it a package firing. I would say Vega is more related to him playing through constant injuries and Peach not being good enough to be a full time starter and then Anderson getting hurt and the backups not being as good for those reasons though. At the start of the year the D did look better because they didn't have the injuries. So I guess what I'm saying is I put the blame for the underwhelming line play on the GMs table because we didn't have good enough talent and depth there going into the year.

That says everything you need to know about how teams feel about the Riders without Durant "we can beat them with our backups" Cornish is just that real good mix of speed and power. He's big and strong and has good enough balance he can run through tackles but he's also fast enough to break some big runs if he gets a hole. If you can draw up the kind of running back every team wants to have that's the guy there.

Yes there does exist such a thing, but having it carried out by those people is going to make life harder for people of the same race because people do go crazy with the stereotypes and racism, especially after something like this happens.

Early in the year Willy was doing that though, I am telling you when he first hurt his hand the accuracy took a drop and I am convinced that the injuries he is plaything through are doing more to hinder him than people realize.

Etch has turned in a better performance as a coordinator this season than Bellefeuille has... Disagree. Defense has shown some glimmers but I would give the athleticism of the guys playing the credit. Etch's inability to stop the run, game after game after game, shows how stubborn and clueless he is. Bellefool has some pretty lame receivers to work with, not much in terms of running back, and the worst o-line in the league. Granted, saying Bellfool is better than Etch is like giving the award for the worlds tallest midget but whatever. Difficulty with your argument: Etch runs a D that is predicated on the athleticism of his players... The lack of focus on the run is intentional, the belief is you don't lose games because of running teams, and I think that's a pretty fair gamble over all. Too much focus on what they've done vs. the run is silly. They have kept the team in most games and made teams kick a lot of field goals as opposed to touchdowns. Yeah there have been a few poor games by the D, but overall they've given the team chances to win more often than not which is all you can ask given some of the issues that crept up with the team make up this year (notably underwhelming defensive line play for much of the year in particular Anderson getting hurt and Vega having a brutal season) Bellefeuille hasn't adjusted the O much to keep things working smoothly, regardless of lack of talent it's become predictable and easier to defend.

What an awful sentiment. Who cares the colour of skin involved? It's the ideology. Obviously much to soon to speculate but people will speculate when the attack was on a soldier. Especially after the attack a few days ago. You never want to politicize something like this but I admit to thinking on the many stupid things Trudeau has said. I think the point there is that if it's the stereotype it just furthers said stereotype and leads to all sorts of prejudice and racism perpetuating further. If it were a born and raised white Canada it's hard to fly off the handle about Islam and muslims etc etc. I just hope the government doesn't use this as an excuse to go all 'Murica! and start taking away freedoms and rights in the name of safety because that's the worst possible response.

Etch has turned in a better performance as a coordinator this season than Bellefeuille has...

you ever stop and think that the reason Allen never won with dominant teams is because he wasn't a good enough quarterback to be dominant?

Still an improvement over mosaic

we sure are.

Any one who watched Grigsby play here knows that it doesn't matter one bit what he does in Hamilton. Guy was too soft and too much of a sissy as a running back to be effective in Winnipeg. It's an easy position to recruit for, why settle for someone who goes down on contact that easy and hesitates before hitting the line of scrimmage? Any scouting department worth it's salt should be able to find runningbacks who can do the job. The fact that Cotton when given the ball looks better should show that Grigsby ain't worth worrying about.

What? That sounds like a good way to be the farm team for everyone else in the league.

Joseph is 41. There's more to it than just that nobody wanted him. yeah the more is that no one wanted him cause he's not good enough to play in the CFL anymore. Except desperate Taman desperately trying to save face after botching the backup qb situation so spectacularly in he offseason.

Homers gonna home.

I blame the House of Duras for causing Worf, son of Mogh to get into trouble. Well, I found my new FB profile pic......... You guys do realize the guy yelling nerds is depicted as a cross-eyed dummy in the movie right? He's also pretty ugly. Just saying. which is why it's perfect for Noeller. I actually fully understand the reference and was for a brief moment going to play along, but then I thought, nah that's too nerdy even for me. Lies. With a pic of Sheldon Cooper as your avatar you know you wanted to join in. You just let Noeller peer pressure you into not doing it. it's true, I feel great shame for it too.