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Well this is an interesting topic and I'm curious how people answer... who are our worst starters on O and D? Let's say bottom 3 starters on O and D... go...

The biggest problem this team has is complacency so yeah I'd rather see a team losing giving it their all than a team losing because "well we'll get em next time"

The reason I pick him is because he's a supposed leader, and you don't send as much of a message just benching anyone. Like Thomas just sucks, but he gives it his all. You sit down a star for inconsistent effort it forces everyone to look in the mirror.

That's a bit dramatic... for all the stupid things going on both those games were still there for the taking without said stupid things. Start with some roster changes to get the best out of the group you have and go from there.

Not like it's a new thing that the area you can actually hit a qb in is pretty small.

My choice would be Willie Jefferson. He knows he's untouchable so he just half asses his way through games hoping for a knockdown. We need someone who will try and at least make the qb have to move or something.

So then let's bench the worst one and get a real centre and see what happens.

I disagree with that. You can make changes and while it might not be significant, it will have a cumulative effect that just might make the sum of the parts greater. There's a **** load of complacency going on right now, changes end that PDQ

and he had a few attempts that were intercepted. The point here is that, as has been said from the get go.... THE PROBLEMS ON OFFENSE ARE MUCH BIGGER THAN THE QB.

Collaros hitting many deep balls today?

I see no reason not to work our high draft picks in considering some of the useless NIs that get dressed. So you lose guys like Wilson or Jones at LB, boo hoo.

You know what the most damping thing about the roster usage is? Corcoran gets WAY more playing time on offense than either of the linebackers we picked high get on defense. So why the **** didn't we take Corcoran first? Seems to me the simple solution is play your best Canadians first and fill in other pieces around them i don't believe for a second that we do that.

Ok so what the **** is Pokey supposed to do different? He's got multiple guys on him.and the ball is thrown to him and not ahead of him. I know you're a collaros apologist, but they weren't a receiver doing something wrong, they were balls they dbs had a chance at. The one before half especially shouldn't have been thrown. Situational awareness dictates a turnover is the worst case Ontario. And further to that.... collaros has thrown those exact same interceptions a million times this season. He's forcing plays without having the ability to put those balls where only the receiver can catch it. It's not a new thing

Oh yeah he will double down with his boys, but it would send a hell of a message if you made Willie Jefferson a healthy scratch.

It just astounds me that people can watch collaros throw ints that cost the team 2 scores, and momentum and turn around and blame the backup qb.

Well I bet you we see some more intensity if the slacking veterans start losing jobs.

Momentum died when he gifted the riders 3 points to end the half.

Throwing ints that lead to points? 9 points for the riders off Zach ints....

The OL got absolutely worked back to back weeks, and has all year, we can't beat a blitz through scheme... like what the **** are they doing there?

Yeah for me canadian is one spot. Lawson and Thomas split it (since schmekel is hurt). Then an American is the other DT and get some depth around the rest of the line. Jefferson at this point is a bit player, vaughters is ok but not an.every down guy. We really need 8 guys dressed there and used heavily.

If they D was good they'd have got the ball back to the O sooner at the end. They were good in the first half, got gassed on the dl in the latter stages. Happens when most of your guys are geriatrics and you got **** all for depth.

Defensive line got gassed in the 2nd half... again. You can survive a bit with Lawson and Thomas, but they need a backup who can help. Kornelson ain't it.

Louder for those in the back...... SOMETIMES THE COACH NEEDS TO SAVE A PLAYER FROM THEMSELVES

Yeah what that guy doesn't know could fill a warehouse.

Every week same problems, recognition and change from coaches? TBD but probably not. We killed the league when our lines dominated, now we have a bloody useless defensive line and a bad offensive line. Lapo highlighted a couple plays early showing why kolankowski is a useless sack of ****. Seriously it's a huge issue when the pocket has no chance when all you have to do is put a guy on top of the centre. Do we try and do anything? Nah we good.