TBURGESS

If Streveler can't get it done this year, then we need to move on from both him & Collaros.

WOFO.. Win Or FO

I've always liked.. "The older I get, the better I was"

Riders are #1 against the rush & #9 against the pass. It the turn over ratio where they shine (#1 @ +8, with 16 TO's). We're #3 in rushing yards & #8 in passing yards, & #7 in turn over ratio @ -1. It's strength against strength and weakness against weakness. If they can force an extra turn over, they should win at home.

Streveler

The last kickoff was unforgivable but so was the missed 35 yard FG earlier in the game.

Note that BC was without Hatcher, Cottoy, & TJ Lee. They'll get better when they get those guys back.

Because it's not a fumble or a turn over. It's a -2 yard pass completion that really didn't matter because we got the 1st down on the next play. MOS made a mistake by challenging it. I was yelling at my TV because I knew where it would be spotted. If I knew, certainly MOS knew.

The call didn't have anything to do with a ******* turnover. Lets play your idea out. Whistle on a missed fumble call, redo the play. Whistle on a missed call on a catch, redo the play. Whistle on a missed call on an in or out of bounds, redo the play. It's only fair y'know.

Any time the whistle blows the play is dead even when the Refs get it wrong. It happens. Everything after that is exactly the way it should have been. You want a rule that says when the refs screw up then the teams get a do over? Good luck with that.

Have you ever seen a replayed down? I doubt it ever existed. The original call was wrong. The challenge was stupid. The ball was placed where it should have been. End of story.

The game we almost won & the game we did win were because of Strev, not Collaros.

Prukop

Hamilton's problem is defence not offence. They are middle of the pack on O scoring 24.8 per game, but they give up 33.8 a game, last in the CFL. BLM is 2nd in passing yards and first in passing TD's. He's not the problem this year.

You forgot special teams that are 'special' in wears a hockey helmet all the time kinda way.

He was a passer. I'd say the helmet was the primary point of contact, but I'm not sure it was the top of the helmet. Going to Article 5 – Roughing the Passer part g: clears it up. So yes, it should have been a penalty IMO.

From the rule book: Nothing about crown of the helmet BTW.

Streveler

I understand your theory. I don't agree with it. Collaros was in the MOP discussion until late in the season last year.

It should be WOFO - Win Or FO

True, but that's not the reason the Collaros is playing badly. Even when we get ahead of the sticks with a 5+ yard first down, we aren't converting on 2nd down at a similar rate to last year.

Fixed it for U

I don't disagree that Brady O was a huge part of our offence last year, but that doesn't mean he's responsible for Collaros' bad start to this season.

He had less bad games last year than he's already had this year & we're only 4 games in. This week was the first week that he didn't have both Schoen and Lawler. He didn't have Lawler for the first half of last year. He didn't go weeks in a row last year without a TD pass. He's 9th in YPG passing. 4 picks, no TD's. He's 8th in completion % just ahead of Dru Brown. If you don't see the regression, then I don't know what your looking at.

He's very different now than he was last season. What are smoking?