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Just in case anyone is wondering about what talent McManus supplied to Hamilton ... he's the one who found CJ Gable and Greg Ellingson. He's also reportedly got credibility with guys who are big name school guys (like Gable with USC, as an example) who aren't sure about the CFL. A Hall of Famer who became a star up here after going to a big NCAA program is credible with these guys, maybe being able to convince them to come here when they otherwise would think they are beneath it.
- Floyd and Mr. Perfect
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Looks like the Bombers aren't ******* around. TWO assistant GMs coming from successful teams.
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This is a fantastic hire
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I just wonder who is actually available as asst coaches... Seems like rookies or has-beens on the market right now
Yes, there are only candidates with experience and candidates without experience. Good observation.
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Cortez didn't relate well to players as a HC in Hamilton. He would be a great OC but why would he leave to be an OC in Wpg with no prospect of playoff money in the Peg.
You're right, I mean realistically, the odds are 107.2% in favor of us never making the playoffs again. Ever.
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Doubt we can afford Cortez at the price tag he'll demand.
Cortez reportedly made $300k in Hamilton. Burke made $225 last season. Not a huge difference.
You more times than not get what you pay for.
If the Bombers are relunctant to understand this concept when it comes to key positions at the player or management level, they can't be surprised by negative results that ensue and will have to accept we will continue to be mediocre if we continue to fool ourselves.
Giving Khari Jones the keys to this football club because he would come with a cheaper price tag and coupled with errenous rationalizations (such as being a former Bomber) and over-rating of what he brings to the table to justify this decision will more than likely not turn out well.
Especially in sport where careers tend to be short, compensation can not be compromised when it comes to attracting quality talent whether one likes it or not.
I agree, but Cortez as a head coach is probably not the best example of this. He was awful.
I dunno.. His team would have been excellent if the defence wasn't so horrible.. The team excelled at scoring points.. which is something we fail doing most seasons as of late.
True but that is still his responsibility and by all accounts, he was severely disliked in the locker room. Guys didn't want to play for him.
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Doubt we can afford Cortez at the price tag he'll demand.
Cortez reportedly made $300k in Hamilton. Burke made $225 last season. Not a huge difference.
You more times than not get what you pay for.
If the Bombers are relunctant to understand this concept when it comes to key positions at the player or management level, they can't be surprised by negative results that ensue and will have to accept we will continue to be mediocre if we continue to fool ourselves.
Giving Khari Jones the keys to this football club because he would come with a cheaper price tag and coupled with errenous rationalizations (such as being a former Bomber) and over-rating of what he brings to the table to justify this decision will more than likely not turn out well.
Especially in sport where careers tend to be short, compensation can not be compromised when it comes to attracting quality talent whether one likes it or not.
I agree, but Cortez as a head coach is probably not the best example of this. He was awful.
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Doubt we can afford Cortez at the price tag he'll demand.
Cortez reportedly made $300k in Hamilton. Burke made $225 last season. Not a huge difference.
Cortez reportedly made a bit more than that up to as much as 400k (but probably closer to 325k) but his buyout was something like 700k for Hamilton. Not sure where you heard Burke got paid that much, I heard other numbers and I know nothing has ever been made public.
That being said, he wants close to that much to be a coordinator. His price tag is very close to the same thing in Saskatchewan and they'll open up the vault to keep him. I wouldn't want him as head coach, what does it tell you that Hamilton was willing to pay 700k to get rid of him and now we want to pay him 300k a year to earn that privilege?
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Doubt we can afford Cortez at the price tag he'll demand.
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Debate what Mike? Four & 14 last year & 6 & 12 the year before?? Total chaos this past season? Total failure? Incompetence at every level? Our qb situation? Where do you want to start?
For as long as I can remember, I've watched Dave try and tell you that he doesn't think Mack is great, he just tries to provide balance to some of the over exaggerated claims that are made about him. And for as long as I can remember, you've never quite seemed to grasp what he is saying. But when it looks to you like, in your own words, "if you were running the Bombers you'd be selling the fanbase on giving Mack a chance and keeping him on as GM" then it shows me that you really don't understand the argument he's been making this entire time.
Dave has never said we should have kept Mack. What he's saying is that while he deserved to be let go, that doesn't mean he is the guy to blame for everything that has gone with this franchise. And it doesn't mean that everything he did was terrible. It's not a difficult concept to understand, you just need to actually read what he's writing because all you've been doing is arguing with him about something he has never said.
However, I must say ... I'm not surprised that you would reply to me in a manner that totally deflects what I said to you. Your reply really had nothing to do with anything that I had mentioned, you're just going in circles trying to find a bite on ANY argument you can get your hands on without actually ever listening to the other side.
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Well, you can hang on to that belief, I guess. So it looks to me that if you were running the Bombers you'd be selling the fanbase on giving Mack a chance & keeping him on as GM. To continue to let him work his well laid out plan whatever the hell that is. Or that continual change is bad so therefore he deserves to stay & this team is on the cusp of greatness. That all that's needed at the GM position is patience. And you'd have a huge revolt on your hands with the same fanbase. The old expression says you can put makeup on a pig but in the end it's still a pig. I'm glad Miller, Walters & just about everybody else see it like I do.I don't pump tires, I try and provide balance to the blanket "he was terrible" statements people like you like to make.
I think what needs to be done is for all parties on both sides of this argument need to put the Mack era behind us & move on. Time to throw our support with the new regime & give them a chance. People on both sides of the Mack argument like you & I will never agree. We'll continue to go round & round so like I said it's time to move on.
This post really confirms to me that you either do not understand what Dave has been saying for the past 6 months or you're choosing to ignore it.
If you're so insistent on debating with him, why don't you debate what he actually said instead of debating against an argument you're making for him?
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Walters may not have the track record, but if you don't think that he's regarded as an up and coming football ops guy by people in and around the CFL, then you're mistaken.
- Jimmy Pop, blitzmore, NotoriousBIG and 3 others
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hey Mike, any updates on the HC search ?
We are currently looking for one.
i always thought you're a good guy, i'm wrong.lol I'm just bugging you. I'm not really all that well connected within the club anymore. Pretty much everyone I used to get my information from has moved on. You know as much as I do about our coaching search.
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There was at least evidence to back that up.
... not really
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According to their Twitter, the Ottawa REDBLACKS have signed the first three REDBLACK players in the history of the REDBLACK franchise.
WR Fred Rouse
DB Nick Turnbull
DE Dimetrio Tyson
Congratulations to the REDBLACKS. Hopefully these three gentlemen contribute to a successful opening year for the new Ottawa REDBLACKS team.
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Speaking of big name quarterbacks on negotiation lists ...
just in case anyone is curious
Johnny Football is on Hamilton's negotiation list, Jameis Winston is Winnipeg property and Brett Hogan is Edmonton property.
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Dressler is a far better receiver than anything we have on the roster and would make the Bombers a better team ala you have to look at acquiring him if he's available. You cut somebody's ass to make room for him, simple as that, it's not even a cap issue.
Would be pretty seamless, get rid of Edwards and that would cover most of it.
But it wouldn't be between Edwards and Dressler, more like Collaros vs. Dressler.
And that still leaves Henoc.
However, this year having so many FAs on our roster, and expected SMS increase, there may be more wiggle room.
Still the argument whether Dressler would be the best investment rests with who will be out there and where our greatest needs are deemed to be.
Have to disagree.
I can guarantee you, if you manage your cap properly, you could easily sign Dressler, Henoc, Collaros and Andrew Harris. And field a competitive team with them on it.
It's not one or the other. A 200k salary (which is probably the average of what these guys will earn) is like 4.5% of your cap. Consider for a moment that the average CFL salary is around 1.2% of the cap, you have PLENTY of room for big name players on a squad.
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Maybe he wanted to relocate the Bombers to the moon and Wade wasn't sure the travel costs would be manageable for road games.
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Parting ways the same way Buchko parted ways.
Wouldn't want Chapdelaine here.
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Curious to see how this works out for Edmonton. I think I've gone a bit sour on ace defensive coordinators making the move to head coach.
Stubler and Burke, among others ... it's just not a good run on those guys lately.
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According to our own media members, the Bombers are still the laughing stock to outsiders.
And according to many of our own forum members, the Winnipeg print media is the laughing stock of the media.
Nope. WPG media is somewhat negative, but they are among the sharpest. Penton just won CDN football reporter of the year!
Our organization is (or has been) a poorly run joke, and our media have the balls to call it as such.
If you want warm and fuzzy, move to SK and read Rod Pederast and the Great Fan-stone.
Among the sharpest? Yeah. No.
Lawless can't keep his thoughts straight from one article to the next, Friesen somehow manages to write 30 articles a year about football without actually ever discussing football, Wiecek would rather be covering curling, Bender doesn't even know the rules of the game and Toth spends 75% of his time covering the team chatting it up with his colleagues (I still remember Toth's tweet earlier this year when he said Buck looked really sharp in practice and Pierce had only thrown one pass that day)
Tait knows his football. Irving knows his football. Penton is a good writer and is getting more up to speed with the game. That trio are the only ones I would consider sharp.
So our media covering the CFL are awful ... except for the three we have that are better than what's in any other CFL city?
Agreed about Lawless, he's lazy and relies on his board leak for all his stuff.
Friesen does what the paper tells him to do to sell that paper.
Wiecek is also lazy. The King of The Em Dash.
I don't have an opinion of Toth or Bender.
Still, those top 3 are as good as the CFL gets.
Maybe as far as quantity but I'd certainly say Lowell Ulrich in BC and Herb Zurkowsky in MTL are great at what they do. Jim Mullin, although I feel like he doesn't write much anymore, is also really good. Terry Jones is another favorite.
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According to our own media members, the Bombers are still the laughing stock to outsiders.
And according to many of our own forum members, the Winnipeg print media is the laughing stock of the media.
Nope. WPG media is somewhat negative, but they are among the sharpest. Penton just won CDN football reporter of the year!
Our organization is (or has been) a poorly run joke, and our media have the balls to call it as such.
If you want warm and fuzzy, move to SK and read Rod Pederast and the Great Fan-stone.
Among the sharpest? Yeah. No.
Lawless can't keep his thoughts straight from one article to the next, Friesen somehow manages to write 30 articles a year about football without actually ever discussing football, Wiecek would rather be covering curling, Bender doesn't even know the rules of the game and Toth spends 75% of his time covering the team chatting it up with his colleagues (I still remember Toth's tweet earlier this year when he said Buck looked really sharp in practice and Pierce had only thrown one pass that day)
Tait knows his football. Irving knows his football. Penton is a good writer and is getting more up to speed with the game. That trio are the only ones I would consider sharp.
Burke Bought Out, Joins Argos as DC
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Wade Miller did well on this one. We're going to be paying Burke peanuts.