voodoochylde

This is the new CFL .. we don't need DBs on the field anymore! (I kid I kid)

Bravo good sir. Bravo.

Interesting - and don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't agree with you or the fact I don't believe the bombers or Willy that he doesn't have one, but that hit looked a lot more like a brain slamming into the skull than a pressure point being struck.. just saying Heh, though with the lack of pressure we've generated up front .. maybe our DL should get more familiar with pressure points?

If you've been knocked out .. you've suffered a concussion. That's not true. A concussion is a very specific injury and there's a lot of misinformation out there. You also don't have to be knocked out to suffer one. I've been in sessions done by the Dr. who works with the NHL on concussion research. He also said you heal almost instantly, the actual injury that is. You may suffer some lasting effects however. Everyone is different. He said the most dangerous aspect is taking a second hit shortly after. As in the same day. You can recover quite quickly from one. If you have been knocked out .. you have suffered a concussion. Full stop. Here's the actual medical definition for you: "The formal medical definition of concussion is a clinical syndrome characterized by immediate and transient alteration in brain function, including alteration of mental status and level of consciousness, resulting from mechanical force or trauma." Simply put, a concussion IS a traumatic brain injury. It's not more specific than that. There are a host of accompanying symptoms and those resulting symptoms can manifest themselves differently in each individual but I'd suggest that being knocked out is an "alteration of mental status and level of consciousness". ;-) I would agree with you if the knockout came as a result of his brain being rattled causing him to go unconscious. However, as a martial artist, I can tell you that there are several areas on the human body that can be struck causing a loss of consciousness that does not result in a concussion, just simply stops the blood flow to the brain temporarily. They are called pressure points and can cause a loss of consciousness and even temporary paralysis. From what I saw of the hit it sure looked like a pressure point loss of blood flow could have occurred. Two spots that render a person unconscious without causing a concussion are the side of the neck (carotid artery) and the point of the chin which also disrupts blood flow from the carotid to the brain and can cause unconsciousness (along with several other pressure points along the human body) that are not concussion related. Have you ever seen a boxer knocked out by a body punch? Happens all the time. Think he suffered a concussion? If so, I am not sure you understand the medical terminology you are reading. Being rendered unconscious is just a common symptom of a concussion, it does not create the concussion. Your brain being slammed into your skull is what causes a concussion. In my martial arts training, I have seen several people knocked unconscious by very slight pinpoint blows to the side of the neck. Sometime just a jab of a thumb from an inch away. They were not concussed. Knocked out....yeah...concussed...nope. Just a temporary disruption of blood flow and it's sleepy time. I think you are being incredibly obtuse and, to be honest, I'm not sure *YOU* know you know what you are arguing. This particular point of discussion revolves around a "blow to the head" (TBI – resulting from mechanical force / trauma) .. not pressure points, body shots, roofies, taking a nap or other means of rendering someone unconscious. So while a shot to the body might result in a “knockout” .. a kidney blow isn’t going to result in a TBI. So I stand by what I’ve said: if you’ve been knocked out – got your brain bounced around resulting in a loss of consciousness – you’ve suffered a concussion. Period. Full stop. End of story. Context is your friend. Learn to make use of it.

Throws three TDs after the INT and fails to perform in the clutch. Interesting.... The defense failed to perform in the clutch. How many high pressure games has he won? How many championship rings has he earned? All the stats in the world .. but can't come through when the chips are down.

Completely agree. Doesn't do anything to sell the league or the game. I think Armchair GM summed it up best in that instead of addressing the problem (the inconsistent application and enforcement of the rules) .. they've tackled the symptoms .. which leads to more inconsistent application and enforcement of rules.

If you've been knocked out .. you've suffered a concussion. That's not true. A concussion is a very specific injury and there's a lot of misinformation out there. You also don't have to be knocked out to suffer one. I've been in sessions done by the Dr. who works with the NHL on concussion research. He also said you heal almost instantly, the actual injury that is. You may suffer some lasting effects however. Everyone is different. He said the most dangerous aspect is taking a second hit shortly after. As in the same day. You can recover quite quickly from one. If you have been knocked out .. you have suffered a concussion. Full stop. Here's the actual medical definition for you: "The formal medical definition of concussion is a clinical syndrome characterized by immediate and transient alteration in brain function, including alteration of mental status and level of consciousness, resulting from mechanical force or trauma." Simply put, a concussion IS a traumatic brain injury. It's not more specific than that. There are a host of accompanying symptoms and those resulting symptoms can manifest themselves differently in each individual but I'd suggest that being knocked out is an "alteration of mental status and level of consciousness". ;-)

I think this one has run it's course.

If it was a concussion .. he'll go through whatever protocol has been defined by the league .. and if he's passed whatever testing is required .. is at his baseline .. the next step would be to see how he respond to exerting himself to see if it brings on symptoms. If he's symptom free after this .. there's no benefit to having him sit another week .. it's not like a sprain or a strain where the extra time to heal does you good .. you could take a huge shot and be completely fine .. a seemingly innocuous shot could trigger another concussion. Each and every person responds differently to a TBI. Again, this is all just speculation but it bodes well for his chances of playing if he's already out on the field.

If you've been knocked out .. you've suffered a concussion.

@WFPEdTait 20s21 seconds ago #Bombers are on the practice field, INCLUDING QB Drew Willy, who is in full gear + wearing his helmet. Will update on how much he plays #bn

The problem with Glenn is that he can put up all the statistics in the world, look like an all-star .. but fail to deliver in the clutch.

Having to go for 2 in OT isn't a new rule. In that case, I don't like any part of the new rules. I'm with you on this.

They aren't but most people 'round these parts lack a little thing called perspective.

No real point of discussion here .. please keep the talk relevant and football related. *THIS* doesn't really serve a purpose. PM me if you have an issue with this being shut down.

Going to just close this down. You can comment on games (including officiating) within their specific threads.

I thought contact was allowed within 5 yards of the los, has that changed? Yup. That's why you need man coverage now, Hall's bend-not-break zone has DBs sitting 5-10 yards back trying to 'read' the route Part of it could be that Hurl and Randle are just in over their head... Again.. How is this hurls issue? Does he cover #1,2 or even 3rd option receivers? No. He did his job against the run and his blitzes were never his strong suit. Your concern is misguided. Randle tho, I agree. He looks bad. Real bad at SAM. Dunno if that is due to him covering for others or just not his best position.. Ah yes, an MLB with no closing speed, just what every team wants. Hash mark to hash mark baby .. wait ..

I don't either, but what other choice is there if Willy can't go? Brohm is yet another in a long string of noodle-arms that have come and gone. He looks like a hybrid between Mike Quinn and Max Hall. Which is why I had to laugh at the 'Brohm is the best backup since Pat Barnes' comment. If "Purolator Pat" is the benchmark we have for measuring backup QBs against .. we're in trouble.

Sometimes when I read posts like this I honestly think I must live in an alternate universe, and some here are definitely in dreamland. Do you guys just pass out automatically when Marve is on the field? Is that why you can't see what he does on the run? I also don't get this need by some here to crap on Marve. Why don't you like him? Did he pee in your corn flakes or something? For the record .. Marve *IS* a 50% passer in the CFL .. That said, he's fun to watch .. he extends plays with his legs .. and his team SEEMS to respond to him .. the problem is he's not the type of QB our OC can tailor an offense to .. we're essentially trying to stick a square peg in a round hole .. asking a mobile athlete to be a drop back passer .. and make no mistake .. at this point .. Marve is still simply an athlete learning the pro game .. and the CFL game. Do I think he could be a capable quarterback in the CFL? Absolutely. Was I hoping to see him get some reps late in the game last night? Absolutely. Do I think he's ready to lead this team? Not at all. But he's taking charge in ways that he can .. Cotton started to lose it on the field at one point late in the game last night .. it was Marve who came out and pulled him aside and was talking to him .. the guy has gifts .. but he needs more time to develop them.

And yet Westerman still leads the team in sacks (not that that's saying much at this point) .. The more I watch this defense .. the more apparent it is that certain players are simply being misused .. a case in point is that Randle has gone from being an all-star calibre cornerback .. a guy QBs stayed away from .. to being a liability at LB ..

I don't necessarily think the backfield is weak, I *DO* think that they aren't being used effectively and .. in the case of Randle .. aren't being played in the best possible position.

It's a bad home loss ... expect anything less?

I'll ask that people keep things respectful. Posts will get turfed. Threads will get locked. Beyond that, Brohm was terrible tonight. Inspires ZERO confidence in this team.

Just went for a coffee run and it *FEELS* like it's going to rain tonight .. hoping it holds off though.