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44 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
Doesn't Kelly need a work visa? Forgot the appeal, feds could just deny him the visa.
He hasn't been charged with a criminal offense so likely not an issue. Wonder if Argos will try to trade next years first round pick for Masoli or perhaps Ford.
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3 hours ago, Booch said:
i'd scoop Menard as Bennets replacement in a heartbeat...and with him and Lawson there are your 2 Canadian dline guys ...see ya Thomas..Schmeckle and Kornelson who I dont see amounting to anything really either
the only thing is Menard is the same age as Thomas with worse stats, If it was 2 years ago Menard, maybe
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Didn't think it was possible that his 2nd effort would be worse than his first, but he managed to do it. Arku first overall? Us taking a player at 8th not even ranked in cfl top twenty scouting bureau rankings? Muembi ahead of Straker? And as mentioned no olineman in a draft said to be the best for oline in years.?
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2 hours ago, 17to85 said:
And before last year they had guys like kongbo and Hansen taking effective reps at end so again, been looking for a couple years? I call bullshit. Last year they found haba who did alright for a rookie but don't forget he was hurt too and then didn't get on the roster because reasons.
I guess my point is... your point is bad and you should feel bad.
nah I don't feel bad, Kongbos last year was 2021. In 2022 we went thru Wilcox and Keion Adams, neither of which worked out for us. Last year when we didn't have Jeffcoat in the lineup, it was very noticeable. We've been able to find dt's but de's that can play both the run and rush the passer aren't easy to find.
You need to check your facts.
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4 hours ago, 17to85 said:
With Jefferson and jeffcoat I'd suggest that you are wrong about them looking for several years...
We've always been looking to find a rotational end, When Haba has been in hes had mixed reviews. Maybe with a year under his beélt he will be better. The question is whether he hasn't reps because coaches didn't have enough confidence in him? With the amount jeffcoats been hurt opportunities have existed.
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1 hour ago, wbbfan said:
I’m not concerned with our ability to find play makers on the dl. It’s not the hardest spot to recruit and we’ve done it very well in the past, both with in the cfl from down south and in both drafts.
I just hope that we get unstuck from mediocre players and systems. I am encouraged by the moves this off season that this will improve as well.
Probably still have our usual “what’s he doing on the roster” guy. Hopefully not starting. Maybe it’ll be Schmekel.
It’s going to be interesting to see how the fifo crew manage with the largest amount of roster turn over yet.
Last year a lot of fans were calling on Walters to sign lemon, Finding a impactful de is not easy, we' ve been looking for several years and the best we' ve found is Haba, whose results have been mixed
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5 hours ago, Rod Black said:
The 96 yard QB draw for a TD is impressive.
interesting quote from draftdiamonds scouting report
Synopsis: Eric Barriere is a stronger quarterback prospect than fellow Eastern Washington quarterback Vernon Adams, who ultimately spent time playing in the CFL. While he may not project as a first round pick, he is the type of player that represents a strong value and investment on draft day. Barriere stands out as one of the top, if not the top, prospects in FCS football heading into the draft, and while he does have room to develop, he also showcases the work ethic necessary to grow. His best fit is on a team with an older established starter where he will have a season or two to learn the system before being thrust into a starting role, but his ceiling is not that of a career backup
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The players above were still starters, and when you introduce new players, especially those without cfl experience there os a learning curve. Luckily enough we have a strong coaching and scouting crew to help with that
Regarding Stanback obviously they feel he's an upgrade to what they had,but I agree his best years are done
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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:
It's interesting to see so many have BC up top. Not sure I understand it. They lost a decent amount of talent on O. Not sure about their defense, but I just don't see them being better than last year.
Bc lost fewer players than we did and did a better job, for now. replacing them.
ie lost Betts > Robertson
Rhymes> Stanback (giving them more balance)
Whitehead .> Mcinnis
Edward -Cooper > Ciante Evans
Baron > Richardson
We were neck and neck with them in the standing most of the year, whether we repeat will depend on our recruiting
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In reading up about combines, the thing is combine results do appear to have a correlation to how players get drafted, but are very limited in usefulness in regards to actual on field success.
the forty yard dash is mostly relevant to running backs, and actually the first 10 yards of the forty are the most relevant. (which makes sense when you think of dline linebackers etc). The vertical jump is more relevant but even so isn't a good indicator of success.
Teams really should rely on their scouting of games, and game film versus being overly swayed by the combine.
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1 hour ago, wbbfan said:
Habba ran a 4.9 pro day as well but at 240. Some guys don’t translate to track speed just like some track fast guys don’t translate to the field (Barrett the lber last year is a good example) he’s also more quick with an explosive first step like Habba.
Idk if his quickness will be still be quick enough for the cfl. But if it is he could be a real gem. Habbas certainly does. He’s also got decent comparisons to jeffcoat, but JJ was faster and way more polished. Imp version of kongbo but with character issues. Though kongbo had run better 40s in the past. I think he tested post injury 4.8 but had run low 4.6 at some point. But college unofficial times are real suspect.
can we sign kongbo too please? Some very interesting names still floating as fas.
actually haba ran 4.69 Celestin Haba - OLB - Texas AM-Commerce - 2023 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football
I'd love to see them sign Kongbo as well
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4 hours ago, wbbfan said:
Bc is for sure moving on from lucky, wonder if he/we would be interested in a vet min deal to compete for a kr job.
If Grant doesn't sign, maybe we could sign Lucky, while he might not be as good as Grant, he would be another weapon on the offence. Bonus is he would qualify as a designated national.
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1 hour ago, wbbfan said:
How many combined receiving yards do the philpots have in their career 900? 500 combined last year? Between the 6 years of all three they have what 2k yards? Considering that’s the best first round for WRs in the league in about a decade that’s not much of an endorsement. Not many firsts have been wasted on FBs atleast. Wr is a trap pick in the first round of the cfl draft.
I believe your question was "I wonder what is historically a worse pick in the first round of the cfl draft, a fb or a wr.?"
Tyson Philpot 532 yds ly, 459 yds in 2022 so basically a thousand yards by himself, and the gamebreaking play against us in the grey cup
Jalen Philpot hurt in 2023 317yd in 2022 also returned 21 kickoffs for 573 yards and a league-leading 27.3-yard average,
Emililus 1097 yards ly
If you look at the last 4 drafts there is a lot of less than stellar picks at most positions except fb because none were chosen It all boils down to the individual player ie Demski, Emilus, Gittens jr are all top players and being paid as such
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in 2022 Jalen Philpot, Tyson Philpot, And Samuel Emilus were all chosen in the first round.(all turned out to be good picks) Its been a long time since a fb was selected.
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Brubacher falls in the same category I think and maybe Una
This draft appears to be much stronger in depth than recent years, we should be able to get 3 good players.
By the way good post M Silverback, interesting to get an informed take, I'll probably use it in my next 3 down article😉
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6 minutes ago, Mike said:
How do you manage to spell Ferguson three different ways in the same post?
yeah my bad. fixed it....sorry if you got confused on who I meant....
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37 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
Alright let's break down your 3 gripes about this mock then.
1) Ottawa is in need of a NI receiver but in a deep draft, do you reach and fill a position of need, knowing you can get a similar quality player later? Both mocks had the best available receiver going first so who's next and how far is the dropoff? What Edmonton does with the first pick could shape the way the first few rounds goes down.
2) Even Ferguson said he doesn't think Dublanco slides to 7th. He also had Lacrosse at 4 but says that's too early. Not sure why he put guys in spots he doesn't think they'll be picked in... It's kinda the whole point of the article? That's probably my biggest issue with his draft.
3) Didn't see you have the same angst for Hodge picking Straker at 3 as you do for Ferguson putting at 2? I get why both guys have him high though. Borderline NFL interest coupled with an underwhelming pro day means he will most likely be available for a team this season which is what you want from a high pick.
Ottawa doesnt have a national receiver on their roster that caught more than 1 pass ly, do you think they will pass on Mital and/or Mardner?
Duncan-Busby is the next best but there is a noticable drop off (Hodge has him 15 , Ferguson 17 pick) Ferguson doesn't have Ottawa picking a receiver in any of their 2 picks
Your point 2 where Ferguson doubts his own ranking also indicated why his draft is less than stellar
As far as Straker goes i may have understated his value, although as an armchair gm, Deblanco seems a better pick
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39 minutes ago, Noeller said:
Marshall Ferguson Mock 1.0:
2024 Blue Bomber Training Camp
in Blue Bomber Discussion
Posted · Edited by Pete
its only day 1.. hard to read anything into it. For wr they likely just went alphabetically so ALston was first up😉
Oshea did confirm that several of the cuts were for injury related reasons ie Bennet. Fayad, Randolph, who will be reassessed when healthy. (wonder if any were due to conditioning concerns? )